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x factor vs mass/fx hyperdrol - Sunday, January 14, 2007 2:06 PM
i was wondering which is the better product to put on lean mass?
 
there gonna be around the same price so that won't matter.
 
avaric how did ur stack finish with x factor?
 
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RE: x factor vs mass/fx hyperdrol - Sunday, January 14, 2007 2:33 PM
havent finished it yet, im about 1/2 way through the 3rd week now.  so i still havea another whole bottle to go.  so far i havent gained any noticeable fat(veins in my arm are bulging out more than ever and i can almost see veins in my shoulders now).  so if anything, id say i lowered my bf% a lil bit since on x-factor.  the pumps ive been getting from the x-f have been crazy these past few days.  my pumps are also sustained for longer periods of time.  im talking like 3 hours after im done working out!!!
 
i would stick to the x-factor if i were you.  i believe the mass fx is hormonal because of the ingredient 25r-diol-something-something-something, so id stay away from it to be safe.  a great alternative for a nha stack would be activate and rebound reloaded.  i havent used it myself(yet...  look for it in my cutting log coming in march) but ive only read good reviews about, everyonme seems to gain about 6lbs of lean mass in a month while on the stack.  so thats pretty good if you ask me.
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RE: x factor vs mass/fx hyperdrol - Sunday, January 14, 2007 3:23 PM
avaric- do you have to stop taking fish oil if you're on x-factor?
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RE: x factor vs mass/fx hyperdrol - Sunday, January 14, 2007 4:26 PM
avaric i actually took 1 nha stack already, and am gonna start the next one next week when i go back to school.  i was just looking for something different to try
 
sounds like x factor would be a good deal.
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RE: x factor vs mass/fx hyperdrol - Tuesday, January 16, 2007 6:11 PM
Did you have good results?
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RE: x factor vs mass/fx hyperdrol - Tuesday, January 16, 2007 6:14 PM
me with nha stack. yea very good results
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RE: x factor vs mass/fx hyperdrol - Tuesday, January 16, 2007 6:45 PM
ive done a very large amount of research of Arachidonic acid which is the key ingrediant in X factor, and have come to the conclusion that it might not be as safe as people are saying.

Arachidonic Acid is an omega 6 fatty acid, omega 6 is a bad fat, though required, american food typically has too much of it.

"Some medical research has suggested that excessive levels of omega-6 acids, relative to Omega-3 fatty acids, may increase the probability of a number of diseases. Modern Western diets typically have ratios of omega-6 to omega-3 in excess of 10 to 1, some as high as 30 to 1. The optimal ratio is thought to be 4 to 1 or lower. [1]"

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Omega-6_fatty_acid

But what is a safe dosage of this fatty acid? think of this, most supplements that contain it have a very large property blend and only contain 5-10 mgs of it, while x factor requires a full gram a day, so what are the side affects of too much omega 6? while there are no short term effects, long term effects include: heart disease, cancer, asthma, arthritis, and depression

X factor is supposed to reduce inflamation, while one of the side effects of excessive AA is inflamation, explain that one to me?

personally I feel that more research has to be done on the product and its ingrediants before it is put on the market. because 15 pounds in 50 days sounds like prohormone results, and considering heart disease is a possibility i wouldnt want to risk it.


http://www.discussbodybuilding.com/m_214540/mpage_1/key_/tm.htm#214546

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RE: x factor vs mass/fx hyperdrol - Wednesday, January 17, 2007 5:10 AM
well a tablespoon of flax seed oil has 2 grams of it so i doubt it is that bad for you...
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RE: x factor vs mass/fx hyperdrol - Wednesday, January 17, 2007 5:32 AM
flax contains Alpha Linolenic Acid and Linolenic Acid, Linolenic acid is an omega 6 but has a much different chemical property then AA

do some searches on yahoo, doctors sights are preaching against this stuff
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RE: x factor vs mass/fx hyperdrol - Wednesday, January 17, 2007 7:56 AM
there was a thread a few days ago on arachadonic acid, and some xfactor reviews.
 
http://www.discussbodybuilding.com/m_215718/mpage_1/key_arachadonic%2cacid/tm.htm#215730

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