why do you need good fats when cutting?

uh... u need good fats ALL the time.  not just when cutting.

when cutting, you minimize your calorie input / portions / bad fats... and increase your output.
you should always have good fats in your diet, regardless of bulking/cutting goals.  just grab a huge bottle of fish oil caps from walmart and pop 2 in the morning with your breakfast. 

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uh... u need good fats ALL the time.  not just when cutting.

when cutting, you minimize your calorie input / portions / bad fats... and increase your output.
you should always have good fats in your diet, regardless of bulking/cutting goals.  just grab a huge bottle of fish oil caps from walmart and pop 2 in the morning with your breakfast. 

 
while that is somewhat true, it  is not completely right
 
when i go into hardcore cutting, i eat 3059 calories a day and 203 grams of fat
 
the big difference is i eat 267 grams of protein along with it
 
the body spends more energy (calories) in dealing with the protein you eat.
 
so a high protein, low carb diet doesn't really matter about the calories that much IF and ONLY IF you are getting a ton of protein
 
(and about 167 ounces of water)

hmm.. i'm not going to argue with you boomer.  you know what works for you.  every body has a different type of body, so each reacts to food differently.

but in essense, the main point i want to make is that you need the good fats in your diet all the time, regardless of whether you are cutting, or bulking.

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hmm.. i'm not going to argue with you boomer.  you know what works for you.  every body has a different type of body, so each reacts to food differently.

but in essense, the main point i want to make is that you need the good fats in your diet all the time, regardless of whether you are cutting, or bulking.

 
not looking for an argument man, sorry if i came off wrong. 
 
but that's kind of the point i was trying to make.  you have to find what works best for you and perfect that routine. 
 
but you're exactly right, and as i stated earlier, fats are deemed the "bad guys" of the food world, when actually they're essential

true.  same here.. not wanting to argue.

people deem the word "fat" a bad thing.   there's different kinds of fats.  good and bad ones....   
it's amazing how people stereotype certain things just b/c they don't know anything about it, so they slap a label on it and think they know everything about it.

1.) fats
2.) radiation.   there's different types of this as well.  and when people hear the word they freak out sometimes when in actuality.. it's coming from the sun, from rocks.. etc.   i find it amusing.

anyways.. got a bit off topic. but i think you see my point

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boomer you have over ~1800 calories in just fat and ~1000 for protein, and only ~200 for carbs???

are you doing keto?

Yes, I did some more reading. I do stand corrected!

The trans fat was actually created in the early 1900's not the 70's (doh...but there was a study done in the 70's which kind of brought it out into the light). Transfats use the same building blocks as non-transfats but are arranged differently. Created for baking needs and to extend the shelf life of food.

and yes they did explain how a small amount is found in some dairy products and animals. However, apparently these trace small amounts of trans fats in animals/diary products do not have the negative affect that the typical man made trans fats have.

Some "fun facts"

Crisco commercialized Transfat back in 1911.

Human breast milk contains transfat, based on how much transfat the mother consumes...yummy.


anyway they talked about partially hydrogenated vegetable oils being associated with trans fats. PHVO is in a lot of foods that dont have trans fat in it according to the label. So my question to anyone is, whats the deal with PHVO?

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trans fat can be found in very small amounts naturally in animals too i know, its very low tho not significant by any means...i dont know how much, but it is present

im guessing soulja just meant dont eat things like snack foods that have trans fat added to them, a few foods naturaly have small amounts of trans fat, and thats ok because its miniscule (sp?)

current 5rm On the texas method
Squat:325
Deadlift:365
Bench:255
My lifting journal

http://strengthmill.net/forum/showthread.php?s=38c084ec0455b629ed0f09e4af40aeaf&t=2407&page=8

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boomer you have over ~1800 calories in just fat and ~1000 for protein, and only ~200 for carbs???

are you doing keto?

here's what it comes out to ----approximate calculations
 
3059 calories
267 grams of protein
203 grams of fat
less than 37 grams carbs

right i know thats what my caloric intake numbers are coming from...

oh, i misread your post
 
you are correct

all good so are you doing keto? thats the only reason why you have that much fat in your diet.

yeah i'm doing the 14 day keto run

how much fat have you lost or plan on losing, 14 days is fairly short i would assume a max of 5 pounds?  Anything more than that would be unhealthy...

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how much fat have you lost or plan on losing, 14 days is fairly short i would assume a max of 5 pounds?  Anything more than that would be unhealthy...

 
i'm starting it this monday.   don't really know how much i'll get rid of. i'll let you know though

yea make a log so we can all see how it goes, i know david did a keto diet not sure for how long or his results but yea lol