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when will I see change? - 6/6/2006 10:14:35 PM
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julianBC
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After my freshman year of school I am not in the best shape of my life. I'm at 5'8" and 180lbs, up from when I arrived at school around 165lbs, even then I was a little chubbier than I would have liked. So I have been doing my research and trying to change my eating habbits and have started lifting.
First of all, I always have been lacking muscle. So I would like to be able to improve me strength and physique, but first I would like to try and loose as much of this fat as I can. Gaining muscle and loosing fat at the same time would be the best.
I have been home from school for about 4 weeks. For about 6 weeks I have been improving my eating habbits and trying to eat 6 times a day. At work I have slipped up a lot with missing the occasional snack, etc. But just recently I have been getting down to business and getting strict with my diet. I have also been lifting weights 3 days a week and doing interval training 3 days a week for about 3 weeks or so.
I figured just being home from school, not exposed to cafeteria food, and going from 30 beers a weekend to no beers (i don't drink at home really), I would have lost weight. However, even after improving my eating habbits (even if not eating 6 times a day, my diet is MUCH better than when I was at school) and excercising 6 days a week on top of being on my feet as a waiter. But so far I have not lost any weight! My girlfriend lost 5lbs just from being home. I am eating healthy and working out and I haven't seen any changes.
So when should I expect to see any changes? On average, if I keep up this routine, how long to get a leaner look? Is it possible that I am gaining muscle? It is the first time in my life that I have started a REAL workout schedule and stuck to it, but I have been doing my research and am going about it the right way. Just looking for some words of advice and encouragement. I am getting frustrated when I step on the scale.
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RE: when will I see change? - 6/6/2006 10:30:07 PM
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julianBC
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Oh ya, and I haven't been taking any supplements aside from 100% whey in my daily smoothies.
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RE: when will I see change? - 6/7/2006 6:39:51 AM
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also its good to have to 6 meals, just make sure that your calorie intake isn't going up cause your eating more often. use the calculator on the nutrition forum to find how many you need. and then divide that by 6 meals.
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RE: when will I see change? - 6/7/2006 6:45:37 AM
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Are there any other supplements I should look for besides the whey powder that will help me with my results?
Also, just to clearify "moderate cardio". Well I am a downhill mountain bike racer, so I have been doing my cardio on a bike of course. I race downhill, so I don't do a crazy amount of cardio like road bikers or xc. I have been doing 20 minutes of interval training two days a week, and then a regular 30 minute xc ride another day. Would that be considered a "moderate" amount of cardio? Sometimes I go on unscheduled rides with friends, or just a ride with my girlfriend (which is much less of a workout), I assume that wouldn't put me in territory for muscle degeneration, correct?
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RE: when will I see change? - 6/7/2006 6:48:14 AM
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julianBC
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also its good to have to 6 meals, just make sure that your calorie intake isn't going up cause your eating more often. use the calculator on the nutrition forum to find how many you need. and then divide that by 6 meals.
So should the 6 meals all be of the same size? Because normally I make the 3 regular meals a bit bigger but then have something like a handful of almonds and raisins, a protein smoothie, or a PB&J on what w/ berries and natural peanut butter just to name my favorites.
Should all of the meals be of equal size?
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RE: when will I see change? - 6/7/2006 8:29:01 AM
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I do some mild DH stuff to and its an ok workout but not really what i would call cardio. maybe do that in addition to running or whatever. I wouldnt worry about supplements yet. you get good enough results with out them.
As far as the meals are concerned best case is to have them be equal, but most people have to eat around others schedules not just theirs. so the snack thing is fine.
when you eat you get a huge glucose spike and having more meals of equal size more often helps keep those spikes smaller. which leads to your body not needing to hold on to calories so much. and an increased metabolism.
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weight-170
height-5'8"
3 rep bench-225lbs
Deadlift-260lbs
squat- 200lbs
aprrox body fat-13-15%
I'll leave your girlfriends panties gummy and have her walking funny." - WC
Stack- ON 100% whey, Xceed, & a little Muscle Milk for good mea
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RE: when will I see change? - 6/7/2006 9:07:12 AM
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danmirage
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Did you read this thread?
For Losing Fat
http://www.discussbodybuilding.com/For_Losing_Fat/m_111175/tm.htm
I answered your questions there.
Should the 6 meals all be of the same size? Not necessarily, but they should all have the 3 key components.
You want to avoid eating "snacks" that spike insulin, you want to support protecting muscle, and you want to support continuous fat release.
Cardio is not THE key to losing fat. The goal is to have fat mobilized to meet your energy needs - so you can use it any time you are in an anaerobic state...which is any time you can meet the demand for oxygen...which is RIGHT NOW!
24 energy expenditure is far more important than a little cardio. THe cardio is simply to improve your cardiorespiratory fitness.
Eat in a manner as described in that post so you are freeing up fat all the time, challenge muscle so your 24 hour energy expenditure is raised, keep your cadio fitness at optimal...that is how you do it.
If you ride more, then you simply need more quality meals to feed the body.
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Are there any other supplements I should look for besides the whey powder that will help me with my results?
Supplements are an extra...you do not need to buy something to achieve this goal!
A multivitamin is a must.
With first meal you might consider some fish oil or flax oil.
An antioxidant is a good idea.
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when you eat you get a huge glucose spike
To clarify, this is not accurate.
There are two hormones: insulin and glucagon. Your body should be either balanced in the release of them or, for this goal, glucagon dominant.
If you are eating simple sugars and processed foods THEN you experience an insulin spike!
Insulin is the storage hormone and when you are insulin dominant you are storing fat etc but you can not release it.
Glucagon is the release hormone...
They are like a teeter totter, if you are insulin dominant then glucagon production drops off adn vice versa...
Eat the way I recomment in the link I gave and you should stay balanced with slight glucagon dominance.
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RE: when will I see change? - 6/7/2006 9:17:51 AM
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95gtdriver
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danmirage you are the man.
I did know about the insulin and glucagon thing, from my bio class but i thought the way i explained it would cover it well enough but you said it better
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height-5'8"
3 rep bench-225lbs
Deadlift-260lbs
squat- 200lbs
aprrox body fat-13-15%
I'll leave your girlfriends panties gummy and have her walking funny." - WC
Stack- ON 100% whey, Xceed, & a little Muscle Milk for good mea
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RE: when will I see change? - 6/7/2006 10:10:44 AM
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julianBC
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Thanks for all of the help guys! I had been doing the 6 meals thing, but I guess I hadn't watched the portions enough. Right now I am using that fitday website and so far its great. A bit tedious, but very informative. Right now I just have to find out what are the easiest things to make and find the easiest source of carbs, because those are low right now in my proportions. The real challenge is going to be bringing food to work. We have a staff cafeteria btu the only thing that COULD be healthy is the salad bar, so I guess tonight I will try and pack some meals and see how that works.
I did read your post on loosing fat as well, I just had those few questions to be cleraed up. I have actually read a lot of the posts that seem to be popular questions, trying to avoid questions that are asked too frequently.
You have some great information danmirage, so let me ask you this. What are some of your personal favorite carb sources that require little or no preporation that I can bring to work or quickly throw in a meal? Also, I did read a few posts about flax seed oil, but I have flax seed powder right now, is that just as good? Normally I like to throw it in with some orange juice or in between the mashed berries and peanut butter on a PB&J.
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RE: when will I see change? - 6/7/2006 12:27:20 PM
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danmirage
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Your goal right now is fat loss?
Then you want to make food choices from fresh whole foods whenever possible.
Also, fruits are not going to be a great choice at the moment...as they will cause you to favor higher insulin.
I list quite a lot of carb choices in that fat loss thread.
when I am away from home, I have a number of foods with me. A meal replacement powder in zip lock bags for the "no-time to eat" moments.
I also carry complete meals in containers. Turkey with baked sweet potato and red pepper for instance.
You could do whole wheat pita with turkey breast, tomato, sprouts, and spinach...
You try to do the best you can...nobody is perfect. If you simply do a little better, you will see positive results!
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My journal:
http://www.discussbodybuilding.com/m_158705/mpage_2/tm.htm
Primers:
Gaining Mass
http://www.discussbodybuilding.com/m_111173/mpage_1/tm.htm
Losing Fat
http://www.discussbodybuilding.com/m_111175/mpage_1/tm.htm
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