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what is it? - 7/10/2004 3:59:39 PM
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nobody
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i dont mean to sound stupid but what are prohormones? I have read your posts, I have checked out mda1125's top post in this form that explains what prohormos are but I DID NOT GET A WORD THAT LINK EXPLAINED, can anyone tell me waht prohormoes are in english, basic stuff nothing scientific
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RE: what is it? - 7/10/2004 6:45:23 PM
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nobody
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thats scientific to me, i read that, dont get it
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RE: what is it? - 7/11/2004 7:33:32 PM
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Ok, lemme take a crack at this. In your body there is something called testosterone. Its what makes you grow. A prohormone is a pill, or a liquid, or a transdermal patch or cream that you take when lifting weight in order to gain either size or strength. What a prohormone does in your body is it passes through your digestive system, and ends up in your liver. Your liver destroys most of the prohormone unles it is a "methyl" prohormone, which means 99% of it will pass through your liver, where it is converted into an active hormone, and pushed into your blood system. When I say it converts into an active hormone, what I mean is there are properties that make up the chemical, that when injested, and mixed with the right chemicals in your body, can actually turn into a form of testosterone. So now the chemical is in your blood, flowing through out your body, and into your muscles, both as you lift, and as you sleep, until you are done taking them. During this, your natural testoserone levels will fall, the reason for this is because now you have more testosterone in your body than it is use to, since your body is making it, and your taking a prohormone which converts to it. So if you continue to take a prohormone, your regular natural output of testosterone will fall. When your done the prohormone of choice, then they will begin to rise again. Now a steroid is totaly different. A steriod is already active testosterone, its already converted, so there is a 100% chance you will recieve a full blast of test. from every doseage taken. The differences between steroids, from a "how they work" point of view, are few and far between these days what with new advances in prohormone technology like the Methyl products I was talking about before, but there is one thing for sure, the results dont varry at all. Take a steroid, and if you have any genetics for growing mass at all, you will grow it, take a pro-hormone, and theres a good chance you might have just wasted your money on a high stakes placebo. I know this was a lengthy explination, but its the best way I could put it without sounding too scientific, hope I answered your question.
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RE: what is it? - 7/11/2004 8:05:41 PM
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nobody
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wow, i get it, great explanation goalkeeper. but one thing you said
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A steriod is already active testosterone, its already converted
whats it already converted into?
and one last thing.. why is prohrmone bad and why are roids worse then prohormones
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RE: what is it? - 7/11/2004 8:09:07 PM
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nobody
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oohh naw that i read twin peaks explanation.. you mean it converts into an active hormone, ya i get it now, thanks
but i still need this question answered:
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and one last thing.. why is prohrmone bad and why are roids worse then prohormones
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RE: what is it? - 7/11/2004 9:01:31 PM
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and one last thing.. why is prohrmone bad and why are roids worse then prohormones
The answers to your questions are they aren't, and they aren't, respectively.
PHs and steroids are considered bad basically because there are legions of folks out there who don't know what prohormones and steroids are beyond the fact that, "they'll make you huge". And so we get a lot of people who screw themselves up by misusing them (let's face it, farking with your hormone levels is not something you want to do all willy-nilly). And of course there's the whole, "it's illegal, so it's going to be black-market sourced, so you're going to get bad junk floating around" thing as well.
So potentially dangerous, absolutely. Bad, nope.
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RE: what is it? - 7/11/2004 10:07:23 PM
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The answers to your questions are they aren't, and they aren't, respectively.
im sorry, what do you mean?
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RE: what is it? - 7/11/2004 10:34:13 PM
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ORIGINAL: nobody
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The answers to your questions are they aren't, and they aren't, respectively.
im sorry, what do you mean?
You said:
why is prohrmone bad and why are roids worse then prohormones
He said:
they aren't, and they aren't.
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RE: what is it? - 7/12/2004 4:37:15 AM
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If you follow the directive on the products, be responsable, think with your brain, take all the precaution, it shouldn't be bad or have very bad negative side effects.
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RE: what is it? - 7/22/2004 7:30:12 AM
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Bump.
It's the guys that think "more is better" that screw things up. For themselves first.... and for the others later. :\
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RE: what is it? - 7/23/2004 3:45:13 PM
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Your nutrition during your cycle is a big part of it but most importantly and probably the most overlooked / undethought aspect is the PCT. You need to make sure you do a proper PCT to reduce the levels of estrogen that are in your body and get it to amp up its natural testosterone production. Failure to do a proper PCT will greatly increase the chance of sides - specifically gyno.
You also want to keep your cycle short - 4 weeks seems to be the most common (actually I will be completing a 4 week cycle on Tuesday - actually 30 days as I have 2 more days worth of supps that I will use).
If you do enough research to understand what PH's do, create a proper cycle / stack and plan for a proper PCT you *should* be fine. I would also recommend having Nolva available during a cycle in the event that gyno does occur as this will help reverse the affects while on the PH cycle.
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RE: what is it? - 8/3/2004 10:30:29 PM
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what is PCT
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RE: what is it? - 8/4/2004 4:35:32 AM
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Post Cycle Therapy
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RE: what is it? - 8/14/2004 11:22:10 AM
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Goalkeeper and WDN.................very well put both of you...finally posts that make sense in here!!!!!!! Gear is like the proverbial gun argument ( guns kill ). Guns dont kill, the idiot weilding the gun does, just like PH or real AAS, its the individual being responsible or not, dont blame the pharmaceutical, its an inanimate substance until human hands touch it!!!
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RE: what is it? - 10/8/2005 10:19:38 AM
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I had to bump this up, this is the greatest post ever made
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