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what I got - Wednesday, August 09, 2006 12:27 PM
Allright I need some input on this if you guys don't mind.
Sun, tues. thurs. :
        Legs - weighted lunges, squats, calf raises 4 x10 or fail
        Back - deadlift, seated rows, bent over rows 4 x 10 or fail
        Shoulders - military press, DB raises, shrugs 4 x 10 or fail
Mon, Wed, Fri :
         Bi's - curly bar (in and out), hammer curls 4 x 10 or fail
         Tri's - skull crushers, db extensions 4 x 10 or fail
         Chest - bench press, incline, push ups 4 x 10 or fail, push ups I'm doing til I can't feel my face :)
I'm doing about cardio 4-6 times a week, and abs roughly 5-6 times. not intense $hit on the abs though.
 
Only day I drink beer and cheat a little on food is Sat.
All 7 days I'm taking creatine + whey 2 times a day.
I'm also taking chromium but after some reseach and talking to some people I think I'm going to stop that. Not real sure yet though. Food wise..
Mon-Fri : Breakfast - 1 low fat yogurt, 1 cup of oatmeal with min. brown sugar (gotta have it) and fruit (banana, grapes, strawberries)
             Lunch : chicken, turkey or tuna sandwich, wheat bread, only mustard, no cheese and some lettuce. 10 reduced fat wheat thins, or crackers, and some fruit or veggies(canteloupe, raisins, carrots, celery, cucumbers)
        Afternoon snack : yogurt, fruit (grapes, cantaloupe, apple, celery, carrots, cucumbers)
        Dinner : Tuna, spaghetti, usually some type of tuna or chicken sandwich. sometimes turkey. some corn, snap peas, some rice, or I'll jsut have a bowl of cereal.
 
When I'm naming these foods off I don't eat them all, I'm just saying what I pick my options from. The thing I think I am most worried about is crashing fo this diet and lifting. I'm afraid I'm going to get so burnt out on the same god damn foods that I'm gonna snap one day and eat an entire ice cream shop. The only real "f" up that I've had, which I don't really think is that bad is I'm eating quater to half a cup of sherbet 2-3 times a week. Any kind of input on this would be awesome. Thanks for all your guys help. this site is amazing and everyone is really trying to help. Thanks again.
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RE: what I got - Wednesday, August 09, 2006 1:21 PM
Forgot your goal and stats:
I'm 6'5" 280..I'm a pretty big boy...and by big I don't mean muscle
 
Lets go with the basics...
Read the nutrition part!
http://www.discussbodybuilding.com/For_Gaining_Mass/m_111173/tm.htm
  • Scale that workout back to 3-4 total sets per muscle not per exercise.  Leave LOTS of room for progressing.  Remember thats 3x a week!!!
  • Change the exercise EVERY repeat exercise or at most every week!
  • Do your cario first thing in the am or right after your training.
  • get your pre workuot and post workout nutrition dialed in
  • Add at least 1 more meal and  eat every 3 hours you are awake.
  • Focus on Veggies with every meal! and not so much fruit
  • DROP the sugar!!! Even a little raisons or honey is better than sugar!
  • Save the sherbert and stuff for the cheat day.
  • You need more protein in the 1st meal...how about using whey?
  • Try an egg (1 yolk) white omlette or scramble with mushrooms, onion pepper, salsa...with the oatmeal
  • Bread is not your friend.  Try to use REAL whole grain breads if you must.  Look at the ingredients..if it says bleached, fortified, or enriched it is not real.
  • bread, pasta, wheat thins and crackers are basically a processed sugar.  try a real food...baked sweet potato?  Look in the post I link...
  • Yogurt and fruit as a meal is a fat preserving sugar bomb.  Try non fat yogurt or NF cottage cheese with organic sugar-free granola and celery or pepper sticks!
  • Corn and peas are both starches...not veggies.
  • You don't have many whole food sources of carbs...spaghetti is processed...like the crackers...

I hope you see what I am pointing towards..a slow change to a more efficient muscle supporting way of eating.  Keep it enjoyable.
 
Make only one change tomorrow...then try for another in a day or two...After your body transforms..you can change the diet!  Think of this as a progression toward a new you!
 
Comment on that and we will go forward!
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RE: what I got - Wednesday, August 09, 2006 1:34 PM
Here I thought this sh!t was working for me. The only problem I run into is that I work out in the morning before I go to work. Which means I wake up...eat a banana and start working out..then immediately have to get in the shower and go to work. I do cardio in the afternoon when I get off of work. I do see what your saying though. I've been doing the whole eating thing for about 4-5 months now and I've dropped almost 30 pounds. I just recently started adding weights. I'll try the slow progression and limit the exercises per muscle b/c I'm doing it 3 times a week. Just today I decided I'm going to take the whey 3 times a day b/c I know that I'm just not getting enough protein going. I can only eat so much damn tuna. :) I knew bread was an enemy but having a short lunch break doens't help either. Another problem I'm running into is my wife is pregnant...and there is so much bad sh!t in the house that its sometimes hard to find something that may be even half way descent for me. oh and one more thing, wtf is a pepper stick?!?!
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RE: what I got - Wednesday, August 09, 2006 1:49 PM

doing the whole eating thing for about 4-5 months now and I've dropped almost 30 pounds


That is AWESOME!!!!
 

wtf is a pepper stick?!?!

LOL  Think a red, green or yellow pepper sliced into "sticks"  Think of an orderve tray from the store with carrot, broccoli, peppers, celery...those are what you can use in a pinch!
 

The only problem I run into is that I work out in the morning before I go to work. Which means I wake up...eat a banana and start working out..

Thats great...however I would prefer you had whey instead of the banana or even BOTH. About 30 minutes before you start lifting....or Branched Chain Amino Acids...
 

I do cardio in the afternoon when I get off of work.

Also just whey 30m before the cardio and righth after...or Branched Chain Amino Acids...they are ideal.
 
I explain all that in that thread I link to.
 
If that breakfast you list is AFTER the workout then USE honey and or raisons and banana!  NOt sugar... and def. add whey to it!
 

I knew bread was an enemy but having a short lunch break doens't help either.

Like I said take baby steps..he he baby steps..soon enough right!
 

Another problem I'm running into is my wife is pregnant...and there is so much bad sh!t in the house that its sometimes hard to find something that may be even half way descent for me.

Plan for success.  You MAKE A MEAL PLAN and then YOU shop for it!  While you are at it make one for her too and GET THE JUNK OUT OF THE HOUSE!!!!
 
Fill that house with LOTS of good food!!!
 
Anyway, you are going in the right direction...one foot in front of the other!!!  You are doing EXCELLENT!!!!
 
Make the cardio vary...read the notes in the thread.
 
As for abs...train those, say, Mon, Wed, Fri as any other muscle...that will get them poppin out.
 

I'm doing about cardio 4-6 times a week

Scale that back to 3!!!  Say,  Mon, Wed, Fri.
 
Why?  Because you are not eating enough to support muscle repair and all that cardio..so it will make you lose muscle!  Muscle burns fat...if you burn muscle...you preserve and GAIN fat.
 
So I am asking you to scale back all the effort and clean up the diet a little...
 
then sit down and plan a better diet and some progression into the workouts.
 
VARY the training every time if you can.  Read the bit on varying training in "the thread."
 
Take it in tiny steps, as you are ready!
 I threw a whole lot at you!


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