umm tell me what you think i guess...

Im 16, 145lbs...tell me what you think about my physique. Been lifting hard for a lil over a year. I kno my abs suck. Im really trying to work them right now. Also i kno i got a farmers tan BIG time lol.

And i recently posted a thread in which i said my arms were about 16 inches. I was off by about 3 quarters of an inch lol. I was measuring wrong when i did it but i did it again and every time it came out to be just over 15 inches. Sorry about that i just wanted to clear that up because posting fake sizes is stupid.
 
oh and no leg pics because they are pathetic and are under construction lol

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i dont kno why butmy arms are a little bit more toned/defined than they look in this pic but oh well still tell me what you think  and what i need to work on.

sup man well after seeing the pics i gotta say ur not bad.. u gotta do a little more chest try doing alot of weight get a TRUSTWORTHY spotter who can push u the right way.. do some flies or some cable cross-overs to open ur chest up a little more . umm ur arms are ok u said that they are more toned than in the pic so idk .. (important) u gotta loose the belly not much but just enough so that ur waist gets a little slimmer .. overall in my opinion, i say u should bulk up but not with any hardcore **** cuz ur still kinda young .. take a good protein and maybe some vitamins .. but at the same time try to fit some cardio and alot of abs in the workout.. keep hitting the gym hard and remember DO NOT OVERTRAIN . rest weekends and get alot of sleep ..watch what you eat. cut soda, fast food and SUGAR !! goodluck

you have a very similar physique to me, u flexing traps on first pic or not?

My 5x5s as of November 2nd 2008.
Bench 150
Squat 150
Deadlift 175
Connelly's 5x5s as November 2nd 2008
Bench 115
Squat 145
Deadlift 165
BodybuildingNovice's 5x5 as November 2nd 2008
Squat 155lbs
Bench 155lbs
Deadlift 155l

thanks guys.

Im trying to bulk up now but to looses that body fat do you think running about 2 miles twice a week and doing a hardcore ab wokrout 3 times a week will be enough to loose that body fat, build up my abs, and still allow me to bulk up at the same time? Also i decided to stop eating fast food, chocolate, and stuff like that.

And are traps your back or your shoulders? i think i was flexing both but i cant remember lol. The pictures came out pretty bad fromthe cell phone but you can get a good enough idea of my physique from the pics.

Thanks guys

well first off u cant bulk while cutting fat, during a bulk u are trying to put on mass and subsequently a little of that will be fat.

and if u are trying to get ur abs to show ur overall diet is going to be way more important then ur cardio

Current: 19, 5'11", 190@7%

bench:305 squat:370(atg) deadlift:475
Goals: 4plate squat, 5plate dead

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Good job. Less arms/shoulders more core/back (especially lower back). Traps are disproportionate....probably would stop isolating them if you are. Traps are on the sides of your neck, top back of the shoulder.

Start focusing on incline bench...your upper chest is lacking. Good luck, stay motivated.

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so the traps are pretty much that muscle above oyur shoulders next to your neck? Are you saying theyare good and i should let off on them?

Looks good!

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if you're flexing them then no , train them like any other bodypart, but if they look like they do on the first picture from the left when your relaxed then yeah they're slightly disproportionate

My 5x5s as of November 2nd 2008.
Bench 150
Squat 150
Deadlift 175
Connelly's 5x5s as November 2nd 2008
Bench 115
Squat 145
Deadlift 165
BodybuildingNovice's 5x5 as November 2nd 2008
Squat 155lbs
Bench 155lbs
Deadlift 155l

watch your lower back you have a really bad curve in it which can cause MAJOR problems down the road such as bulged discs etc., work on flexing your Glutes while you do almost every exercise  by flexing your glutes it straightens your lower back

YOU GOTTA EAT BIG, TO BE BIG!!

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Winter Bulk goal:245-250 by dec 31
Current weight: 235

Any specific exercises for the lower back you could give me?

Deadlifts for a compound, hyperextensions to isolate. Google them.

Shut up and lift

You have very large triceps compared to biceps. I would say "work on biceps/shoulders/abs/chest" more then anythin else.

Also.. no leg shots?

And how tall are you?

im 5,9 and actually my biceps are pretty good but you cant tell from the pics. Iagree with you tho on my shoulders chest and abs tho,

And my legs arent worth putting up. They are  pathetic becuse i was stupid and thought upper body was everything but now im starting to work them really hard

looking pretty good but you have a pretty severe anterior pelvic tilt, its shown with your waist line and the curvature of your spine.  You need to try and stretch out your lower back as it looks tight and strengthen your abs/obliques.  Also i would suggest strengthening your hamstrings and gluteus max.  as this will help pull the pelvis back into alignment.  If its not corrected you can have severe lower back pain even debilitating later in life.

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looking pretty good but you have a pretty severe anterior pelvic tilt, its shown with your waist line and the curvature of your spine.  You need to try and stretch out your lower back as it looks tight and strengthen your abs/obliques.  Also i would suggest strengthening your hamstrings and gluteus max.  as this will help pull the pelvis back into alignment.  If its not corrected you can have severe lower back pain even debilitating later in life.

Are you a physical therapist or somthing?

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Not bad man eat a lot it the bench and ull be good

Ht: 6''1
Wt: 185
Age: 17
Bench: 180 (max was 200 :( )
Squat: 350
Clean: 160
40 yd: 5.2 (i'm working on it)

so are u flexing ur traps on the first pic from the left or not????

My 5x5s as of November 2nd 2008.
Bench 150
Squat 150
Deadlift 175
Connelly's 5x5s as November 2nd 2008
Bench 115
Squat 145
Deadlift 165
BodybuildingNovice's 5x5 as November 2nd 2008
Squat 155lbs
Bench 155lbs
Deadlift 155l

i was but i dont see a difference when i flex em and wh i dont.

well then ur not flexing them right are you, unless you have no muscle there whatsoever which i no you do because i can see it.........................

My 5x5s as of November 2nd 2008.
Bench 150
Squat 150
Deadlift 175
Connelly's 5x5s as November 2nd 2008
Bench 115
Squat 145
Deadlift 165
BodybuildingNovice's 5x5 as November 2nd 2008
Squat 155lbs
Bench 155lbs
Deadlift 155l

maybe im just stupid lol. I dont work my lats really. I've done shoulder shrugs only a hand full of times before but not to much.

hahaha wow i am stupid. I thought lats were like the neck muscle or somthing lol but no i wasnt flexing them actually.



Do you guys think the starting strength routine would be good for me to start now?

ummm how much body fat % would you say i have too?

Do you guys think i should do the HST program or the starting strength routine? I wanna get BIG and strong.

Also i really wanna increase my chest alot. Its pretty lacking so which routine would be best for that?

You have a great frame to work with man.  If you stick to SS, and eat like a horse, you will be monsterous within 2 years (I know 2 years seems like a long time, but it's really not.  The REAL results take YEARS to come.  I'm 26 now.  I'm thinking about how jacked I'll be once I'm 35.) 

Shoot for about 190 - 200 lbs. before you ever decide to cut.  That's my advice to you.

Lol, I already said this in your other tread too, but SS will get you BIG and STRONG.  Not JUST strong.  Don't worry dude if you lift extremely heavy weights and eat a lot of food you WILL get HUGE. 

Bodybuilders seem to get scared once they hear the word "strength".  It's as if they think they will still be skinny if they are deep squatting over 300 lbs., deadlifting over 400, and benching over 250. 
It's the skinny guys that do the "bodybuilding" routines, and remain skinny. 

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yea bri i posted this b4 i posted on my other thread lol when i saw you were the one who replied to this i thought you were gonna be yelling at me saying I TOLD YOU TO STICK TO SS!!! or something lol. But yea im gonna listen to you man
 
oh and what do you mean by a great frame? Im really slow at developing muscle. My chest is just taking FOREVER :**[
and is it ok to do cardio while doing starting strength? I wanna get that six pack rollin

You have to bulk up before you get cut.  If you worry about your 6 pack, you will never be where you want to be.  Take my advice, and bulk for 2 years minimum, then if you really decide that you want to go for that 6 pack, go for it then.  You will be suprised at how much better you start looking once you add on an extra 20 lbs. of muscle or so.  You may not even care about a 6 pack any more at that point. l

By great frame, I meant you are already low fat and proportioned nicely.  An extra 50 lbs or so, and you will be a beast.

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your chest seems pretty well developed but small in area if you get what i mean , same as me

My 5x5s as of November 2nd 2008.
Bench 150
Squat 150
Deadlift 175
Connelly's 5x5s as November 2nd 2008
Bench 115
Squat 145
Deadlift 165
BodybuildingNovice's 5x5 as November 2nd 2008
Squat 155lbs
Bench 155lbs
Deadlift 155l

do you guys think that the starting strength routine will be best for making my chest bigger now?