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test boosters - 7/17/2007 3:54:35 PM
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Trueplaya6984
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Can people tell me the results they got from IDS Sostonol 250 and/or Mass Tabs. Any info on these products would be helpful like pros/cons or what else you have to take with it like liver detoxifiers and post cycle supps. I need some info on this.
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RE: test boosters - 7/17/2007 4:25:42 PM
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16 y/o... too young. I'm too young for it and I'm 19... Yes, I have messed w/ ph's (last November I did a cycle), but I regret it highly, and I was lucky I didn't get messed up cuz I was soooo uneducated about them. I'd recommend not messing with anything hormone-related until at least 21 years old. And they are not test boosters, in fact, they shut off your natural testosterone levels a lot or completely. Not completely sure about mass tabs, but sostonal 250 is a methylated prohormone. Need liver protection on and off cycle along with a healthy diet to see maximum results. Need an anti-estrogen and a test booster post cycle (Novedex XT by Gaspari is awesome) to re-inflate your empty and very small testicles. PCT should continue for at least the same amount of time you are on cycle. Once you mess with them, it's hard to gain again for quite a while after cycle... my advice : protein, creatine, fish oil, multivitamin, BCAAs, maybe some CLA...
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RE: test boosters - 7/17/2007 5:46:51 PM
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odw777
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Those are phs not test boosters, shouldn't even think about it before you're 21. I'm pretty sure Mass Tabs= Superdrol They hide the formula around a bunch of herbs and crap, ids is not a good company.
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RE: test boosters - 7/18/2007 11:10:55 AM
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Trueplaya6984
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I'm not going to take it... thats too hard core for me. could yall get me some more information about the difference in test boosters, ph's, and roids? my uncle wants to take them and I told him I'd check them out for him.
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Current Stack: none Football Player Age: 18 y/o Height: 6'2" Start.......................................Current Weight: 150 lbs. .......................172 lbs. BF %: ~10% .............................~9% Max Bench: 190 lbs. ..................250 lbs. Max Parallel Squat: 215 lbs. ........260 lbs. Max Curl: 95 lbs. .......................115 lbs. Max Cleans: 160 Lbs. .................215 lbs. ( Stress Fracture on spine :/ can't work on squats or cleans for 15 weeks [2 more left!!!]) R.I.P. Daniel Peek
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RE: test boosters - 7/18/2007 11:27:12 AM
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Trueplaya6984
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He was really sold on IDS Sostonol 250 which he heard good things on and I told him to wait because it would be smart to check it out. Would DS's Activate be a better choice? Also, what about Animal Stak 2, should I recommend that since it's a test booster (or I might be wrong)
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Current Stack: none Football Player Age: 18 y/o Height: 6'2" Start.......................................Current Weight: 150 lbs. .......................172 lbs. BF %: ~10% .............................~9% Max Bench: 190 lbs. ..................250 lbs. Max Parallel Squat: 215 lbs. ........260 lbs. Max Curl: 95 lbs. .......................115 lbs. Max Cleans: 160 Lbs. .................215 lbs. ( Stress Fracture on spine :/ can't work on squats or cleans for 15 weeks [2 more left!!!]) R.I.P. Daniel Peek
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RE: test boosters - 7/18/2007 11:37:10 AM
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Trueplaya6984
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Seeing my uncle is 28 he should probably start with Activate, right?
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Current Stack: none Football Player Age: 18 y/o Height: 6'2" Start.......................................Current Weight: 150 lbs. .......................172 lbs. BF %: ~10% .............................~9% Max Bench: 190 lbs. ..................250 lbs. Max Parallel Squat: 215 lbs. ........260 lbs. Max Curl: 95 lbs. .......................115 lbs. Max Cleans: 160 Lbs. .................215 lbs. ( Stress Fracture on spine :/ can't work on squats or cleans for 15 weeks [2 more left!!!]) R.I.P. Daniel Peek
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RE: test boosters - 7/18/2007 11:54:56 AM
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ORIGINAL: Trueplaya6984 Seeing my uncle is 28 he should probably start with Activate, right? How long has he been lifting? Does he have his diet/routine/sleep all in check? Is he making use of other supplements (protein, creatine, etc.)?
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Supplementation, in order of priority : FOOD, WATER, Cytosport Muscle Milk Creamy Vanilla (.5 scoops before bed), MRM Creatine Monohydrate (5g/day w/in 30 minutes POSTworkout), Spring Valley Fish Oil (2g/day), Nature Made Magnesium (250mg @ beginning of workout), Spring Valley Calcium (600mg @ beginning of workout) Currently: 5'9.5", 190 lbs, 9% bf DBB Competition Goal: 5'9.5" 195-200 7% bf Ultimate Goal: 5'9.5" 200 lbs. 8% bf
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RE: test boosters - 7/18/2007 1:36:14 PM
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He used what I used to use becuase it helped me out. The BSN's mass stack (Nitrx, No-X, and Cellmass). He's been lifting like a year or so is my guess. So Masstabs or Sostonol 250 are steroids?
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Current Stack: none Football Player Age: 18 y/o Height: 6'2" Start.......................................Current Weight: 150 lbs. .......................172 lbs. BF %: ~10% .............................~9% Max Bench: 190 lbs. ..................250 lbs. Max Parallel Squat: 215 lbs. ........260 lbs. Max Curl: 95 lbs. .......................115 lbs. Max Cleans: 160 Lbs. .................215 lbs. ( Stress Fracture on spine :/ can't work on squats or cleans for 15 weeks [2 more left!!!]) R.I.P. Daniel Peek
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RE: test boosters - 7/18/2007 3:39:56 PM
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ORIGINAL: Trueplaya6984 He used what I used to use becuase it helped me out. The BSN's mass stack (Nitrx, No-X, and Cellmass). He's been lifting like a year or so is my guess. So Masstabs or Sostonol 250 are steroids? They're prohormones, but basically steroids... the body converts them to steroid-like molecules to make you body anabolic. And based on both his length of time lifting and his previous supplement experience, there are a lot better options than taking hormonal products. He's not even close to reaching his genetic potential in just one year. Protein, creatine, multivitamin, fish oil, cla, BCAAs... healthy supplements that encouragee muscle growth/strength gains. Patience and knowledge are key to building an ideal physique. Rushing around, looking for "quick" and "easy" ways to get big will only lead him (or anyone) to injury or dissappointment. What does his sleep and diet look like?
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Supplementation, in order of priority : FOOD, WATER, Cytosport Muscle Milk Creamy Vanilla (.5 scoops before bed), MRM Creatine Monohydrate (5g/day w/in 30 minutes POSTworkout), Spring Valley Fish Oil (2g/day), Nature Made Magnesium (250mg @ beginning of workout), Spring Valley Calcium (600mg @ beginning of workout) Currently: 5'9.5", 190 lbs, 9% bf DBB Competition Goal: 5'9.5" 195-200 7% bf Ultimate Goal: 5'9.5" 200 lbs. 8% bf
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RE: test boosters - 7/19/2007 8:15:41 AM
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I guess normal. Which probably isn't good.
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Current Stack: none Football Player Age: 18 y/o Height: 6'2" Start.......................................Current Weight: 150 lbs. .......................172 lbs. BF %: ~10% .............................~9% Max Bench: 190 lbs. ..................250 lbs. Max Parallel Squat: 215 lbs. ........260 lbs. Max Curl: 95 lbs. .......................115 lbs. Max Cleans: 160 Lbs. .................215 lbs. ( Stress Fracture on spine :/ can't work on squats or cleans for 15 weeks [2 more left!!!]) R.I.P. Daniel Peek
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RE: test boosters - 7/19/2007 8:43:01 AM
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toolman4052
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Well, I would recommend a protein, multivitamin, fish oil, and BCAA supplement regimen, and maybe a test booster since he is 28.
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Supplementation, in order of priority : FOOD, WATER, Cytosport Muscle Milk Creamy Vanilla (.5 scoops before bed), MRM Creatine Monohydrate (5g/day w/in 30 minutes POSTworkout), Spring Valley Fish Oil (2g/day), Nature Made Magnesium (250mg @ beginning of workout), Spring Valley Calcium (600mg @ beginning of workout) Currently: 5'9.5", 190 lbs, 9% bf DBB Competition Goal: 5'9.5" 195-200 7% bf Ultimate Goal: 5'9.5" 200 lbs. 8% bf
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RE: test boosters - 7/19/2007 8:53:44 AM
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ORIGINAL: Trueplaya6984 Can people tell me the results they got from IDS Sostonol 250 and/or Mass Tabs. Any info on these products would be helpful like pros/cons or what else you have to take with it like liver detoxifiers and post cycle supps. I need some info on this. DO NOT TOUCH Sostonol 250. Its a ****tail of Superdrol, Pheraplex, and Halodrol-50. Thats 3, count them, 3 methylated prosteroids all in one convenient tablet. I am not exaggerating when I tell you that it would be easier on your liver to drink yourself into alcohol induced coma's every night for a month than to take this stuff. Mass tabs is a very sketchy product too.
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RE: test boosters - 7/19/2007 9:17:16 AM
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Trueplaya6984
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Ok thanks guys. At least I learned something.
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Current Stack: none Football Player Age: 18 y/o Height: 6'2" Start.......................................Current Weight: 150 lbs. .......................172 lbs. BF %: ~10% .............................~9% Max Bench: 190 lbs. ..................250 lbs. Max Parallel Squat: 215 lbs. ........260 lbs. Max Curl: 95 lbs. .......................115 lbs. Max Cleans: 160 Lbs. .................215 lbs. ( Stress Fracture on spine :/ can't work on squats or cleans for 15 weeks [2 more left!!!]) R.I.P. Daniel Peek
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RE: test boosters - 7/19/2007 4:19:38 PM
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ORIGINAL: njmuscle66 Like I said the product by IDS though legal is a steroid. I have used Activate before and the feedback has been very good. The expectation is the new and imporved formula will yield even better results. My opinion would be for several reasons go with the Activate. Especially if he is relatively new to working out and supplementation Can you tell me what made them want to reformulate ActivaTe?
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RE: test boosters - 7/19/2007 6:19:00 PM
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ORIGINAL: njmuscle66 Execuse me? Not sure if there was a joke there or a serious question. If you look at the write up for Activate Xtreme you can see why the reformulation. Just the desire to make a high quality product even better http://www.designersupps.com/static_site/writeup1_activatex.php I'm going to pick the stuff up I was looking forward to a new activate, just waiting for some feedback and getting through some other supplements.
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