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taking hgh is it bad for a 15 yr.

i don't plan on taking hgh but i've got a friend who also is a good athlete he takes protein and creatine but now he's talking about hgh. could this hurt him

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    RE: taking hgh is it bad for a 15 yr. 2007/09/22 15:07:47 (permalink)
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    yes this can hurt you its like steroids basically
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    RE: taking hgh is it bad for a 15 yr. 2007/09/22 15:47:16 (permalink)
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    how does a 15 year old even afford HGH?  Usually a cycle will cost over 1200 bucks, and yes HGH is a steroid, and tell him he is a dumbass for even considering it at his age
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    RE: taking hgh is it bad for a 15 yr. 2007/09/22 16:30:39 (permalink)
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    HGH abuse is bad at any age, unless he is gonna take it under medical supervision he shouldn't take it, and I asked myself the same question than soccerking, how the hell can he afford it?? I've got trouble saving for creatine and whey!


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    RE: taking hgh is it bad for a 15 yr. 2007/09/22 17:13:40 (permalink)
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    hgh isn't a steroid. It's a growth hormone.
     
    And I'm betting this kid is talking about oral hgh he found at gnc or something. Which isn't going to do anything.
     
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    RE: taking hgh is it bad for a 15 yr. 2007/09/22 19:05:31 (permalink)
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    ORIGINAL: odw777

    hgh isn't a steroid. It's a growth hormone.

    And I'm betting this kid is talking about oral hgh he found at gnc or something. Which isn't going to do anything.



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    RE: taking hgh is it bad for a 15 yr. 2007/09/22 19:29:36 (permalink)
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    ORIGINAL: determined58

    i don't plan on taking hgh but i've got a friend who also is a good athlete he takes protein and creatine but now he's talking about hgh. could this hurt him


    Lol, no... expensive arginine wont do too much harm.

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    RE: taking hgh is it bad for a 15 yr. 2007/09/23 10:31:37 (permalink)
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    ORIGINAL: VaughnTrue

    ORIGINAL: odw777

    hgh isn't a steroid. It's a growth hormone.

    And I'm betting this kid is talking about oral hgh he found at gnc or something. Which isn't going to do anything.



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    Your back is too small Vaughn, I can still see part of your arms while flexing.

    In any case Oral HGH won't do anything and will just be broken down by the stomach acid, I'd imagine it would cause your friend to get very tall though if he injected it.
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    RE: taking hgh is it bad for a 15 yr. 2007/09/23 13:20:29 (permalink)
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    ORIGINAL: odw777
    hgh isn't a steroid. It's a growth hormone.
    And I'm betting this kid is talking about oral hgh he found at gnc or something. Which isn't going to do anything.

     
    Yes, sounds like an OTC product he’s talking about. These products tout they have the "highest effective dose allowed for OTC". What they are doing is squirting a couple of hundred thousand nanograms of hGH in some kind of suspension and then marketing that it contains "real" hGH. The average dose for these products is 2.000 nanograms or less, considering it takes a million nanograms to equal one milligram (1mg or 3 IU's).
     
    It’s true that hGH is not a steroid and it is a Growth Hormone called-Somatotropin. In simple terms is just a protein .... a 191 amino acid protein string. There is no question what your digestive system can do to protein strings .... that is how you break your tuna and chicken breasts into something your body can use. It is very efficient at breaking down the bonds of protein strings and digesting them. That is why those who really use HGH inject it. That is the ONLY way to get it into your system. It’s the only substance that can help recruit new muscle cells. Also, it can strengthen and heal connective tissues, cartilage and tendons. hGH cycles range from 5-8 months (not 3-4-6 weeks like pill poppin hormones).
     
    That’s injecting once or twice per day (depending on the amount) normally 5 days on, 2 days off. Some go 7 days a week.  At approximately $50 for about 4 IU’s and needing an average of 2-3 IU’s per day. Is it cost effective at a young age?  I would say no. Unless one is a pro bodybuilder. Consider that an average 20 year old produces on a daily basis about 2 IU’s on his own. 30 year old about 1.5 IU’s, a 40 year old 1.0, maybe 1.5 IU’s and declines even more as we age. The average dose for these OTC products is 2.000 nanograms or less. It takes a million nanograms to equal one milligram (1mg = 3 IU's). Injecting 660,000 nanograms routinely.
     
    IMO,I don’t think hGH by itself is going to make much of a difference for bodybuilding purposes unless you’re a pro and take it like a pro. It all boils down to strategies, dosing and timing. This is not a product to be taken lightly.
     
    Once the hGH is released in your system it has a relatively short half life. It normally will metabolize and be gone in about half-hour. But during that short period of time it will have gone through your liver, tissues and have secreted another hormone called 1GF-1.
     
    Also, while hGH (and IGF-1) won’t cause cancer or tumors, they can create an environment that can allow already existing, active tumor tissue to grow at an accelerated rate.

    Those individuals younger than the late 20’s, would be advised to enter an hGH cycle under the guidance of their MD, who can monitor and confirm whether or not the growth plates have fused. While abnormal bone growth with hGH use is not common, if it used at the wrong point in your body’s development, it can cause disproportionate growth.
     
    It would seem that the uneven growth and is cancer environmental issues would be enough to think about the consequences that could occur when taking hGH, let alone the sides of bloating, joint pain, thyroid, gyno and other concerns.
     
    It’s always best to do some good homework. Know what your getting into before even thinking about taking products that could present adverse problems, don’t just say to yourself “Oh, I think I’ll take this because it’ll make me bigger.”
     
    Just food for thought.
     

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    RE: taking hgh is it bad for a 15 yr. 2007/09/23 17:04:27 (permalink)
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    ORIGINAL: determined58

     could this hurt him

    Hmm, how to put this......YES.

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    RE: taking hgh is it bad for a 15 yr. 2007/09/23 18:07:47 (permalink)
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    ORIGINAL: jram

    ORIGINAL: odw777
    hgh isn't a steroid. It's a growth hormone.
    And I'm betting this kid is talking about oral hgh he found at gnc or something. Which isn't going to do anything.


    Yes, sounds like an OTC product he’s talking about. These products tout they have the "highest effective dose allowed for OTC". What they are doing is squirting a couple of hundred thousand nanograms of hGH in some kind of suspension and then marketing that it contains "real" hGH. The average dose for these products is 2.000 nanograms or less, considering it takes a million nanograms to equal one milligram (1mg or 3 IU's).

    It’s true that hGH is not a steroid and it is a Growth Hormone called-Somatotropin. In simple terms is just a protein .... a 191 amino acid protein string. There is no question what your digestive system can do to protein strings .... that is how you break your tuna and chicken breasts into something your body can use. It is very efficient at breaking down the bonds of protein strings and digesting them. That is why those who really use HGH inject it. That is the ONLY way to get it into your system. It’s the only substance that can help recruit new muscle cells. Also, it can strengthen and heal connective tissues, cartilage and tendons. hGH cycles range from 5-8 months (not 3-4-6 weeks like pill poppin hormones).

    That’s injecting once or twice per day (depending on the amount) normally 5 days on, 2 days off. Some go 7 days a week.  At approximately $50 for about 4 IU’s and needing an average of 2-3 IU’s per day. Is it cost effective at a young age?  I would say no. Unless one is a pro bodybuilder. Consider that an average 20 year old produces on a daily basis about 2 IU’s on his own. 30 year old about 1.5 IU’s, a 40 year old 1.0, maybe 1.5 IU’s and declines even more as we age. The average dose for these OTC products is 2.000 nanograms or less. It takes a million nanograms to equal one milligram (1mg = 3 IU's). Injecting 660,000 nanograms routinely.

    IMO,I don’t think hGH by itself is going to make much of a difference for bodybuilding purposes unless you’re a pro and take it like a pro. It all boils down to strategies, dosing and timing. This is not a product to be taken lightly.

    Once the hGH is released in your system it has a relatively short half life. It normally will metabolize and be gone in about half-hour. But during that short period of time it will have gone through your liver, tissues and have secreted another hormone called 1GF-1.

    Also, while hGH (and IGF-1) won’t cause cancer or tumors, they can create an environment that can allow already existing, active tumor tissue to grow at an accelerated rate.

    Those individuals younger than the late 20’s, would be advised to enter an hGH cycle under the guidance of their MD, who can monitor and confirm whether or not the growth plates have fused. While abnormal bone growth with hGH use is not common, if it used at the wrong point in your body’s development, it can cause disproportionate growth.

    It would seem that the uneven growth and is cancer environmental issues would be enough to think about the consequences that could occur when taking hGH, let alone the sides of bloating, joint pain, thyroid, gyno and other concerns.

    It’s always best to do some good homework. Know what your getting into before even thinking about taking products that could present adverse problems, don’t just say to yourself “Oh, I think I’ll take this because it’ll make me bigger.”

    Just food for thought.



     
    Awesome post. Should be a sticky.
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    RE: taking hgh is it bad for a 15 yr. 2007/09/27 14:39:13 (permalink)
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    ye i must admit that post was actually really informative, btw vaugn man i havent been on here in a while, since when did u get that FAT v in the back?
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    RE: taking hgh is it bad for a 15 yr. 2007/09/28 13:40:34 (permalink)
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    ORIGINAL: jram

    ORIGINAL: odw777
    hgh isn't a steroid. It's a growth hormone.
    And I'm betting this kid is talking about oral hgh he found at gnc or something. Which isn't going to do anything.


    Yes, sounds like an OTC product he’s talking about. These products tout they have the "highest effective dose allowed for OTC". What they are doing is squirting a couple of hundred thousand nanograms of hGH in some kind of suspension and then marketing that it contains "real" hGH. The average dose for these products is 2.000 nanograms or less, considering it takes a million nanograms to equal one milligram (1mg or 3 IU's).

    It’s true that hGH is not a steroid and it is a Growth Hormone called-Somatotropin. In simple terms is just a protein .... a 191 amino acid protein string. There is no question what your digestive system can do to protein strings .... that is how you break your tuna and chicken breasts into something your body can use. It is very efficient at breaking down the bonds of protein strings and digesting them. That is why those who really use HGH inject it. That is the ONLY way to get it into your system. It’s the only substance that can help recruit new muscle cells. Also, it can strengthen and heal connective tissues, cartilage and tendons. hGH cycles range from 5-8 months (not 3-4-6 weeks like pill poppin hormones).

    That’s injecting once or twice per day (depending on the amount) normally 5 days on, 2 days off. Some go 7 days a week. At approximately $50 for about 4 IU’s and needing an average of 2-3 IU’s per day. Is it cost effective at a young age? I would say no. Unless one is a pro bodybuilder. Consider that an average 20 year old produces on a daily basis about 2 IU’s on his own. 30 year old about 1.5 IU’s, a 40 year old 1.0, maybe 1.5 IU’s and declines even more as we age. The average dose for these OTC products is 2.000 nanograms or less. It takes a million nanograms to equal one milligram (1mg = 3 IU's). Injecting 660,000 nanograms routinely.

    IMO,I don’t think hGH by itself is going to make much of a difference for bodybuilding purposes unless you’re a pro and take it like a pro. It all boils down to strategies, dosing and timing. This is not a product to be taken lightly.

    Once the hGH is released in your system it has a relatively short half life. It normally will metabolize and be gone in about half-hour. But during that short period of time it will have gone through your liver, tissues and have secreted another hormone called 1GF-1.

    Also, while hGH (and IGF-1) won’t cause cancer or tumors, they can create an environment that can allow already existing, active tumor tissue to grow at an accelerated rate.

    Those individuals younger than the late 20’s, would be advised to enter an hGH cycle under the guidance of their MD, who can monitor and confirm whether or not the growth plates have fused. While abnormal bone growth with hGH use is not common, if it used at the wrong point in your body’s development, it can cause disproportionate growth.

    It would seem that the uneven growth and is cancer environmental issues would be enough to think about the consequences that could occur when taking hGH, let alone the sides of bloating, joint pain, thyroid, gyno and other concerns.

    It’s always best to do some good homework. Know what your getting into before even thinking about taking products that could present adverse problems, don’t just say to yourself “Oh, I think I’ll take this because it’ll make me bigger.”

    Just food for thought.






    Yeah great post. Especially about the Insulin growth factor .. thats actually sold by it self too.. IGF-1. Personally id rather take IGF-1 then HGH that **** is was over priced. Aye none of that really has all that great of an affect on the body anyways... Might take in in another 20 - 30 years though.


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