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strength training and height - Monday, July 14, 2008 2:13 PM
I have heard that being tall and strength training dont go to well together.

I know that shorter guys have an advantage in the mass department, it takes taller guys a little more time to fill out.

but how well does the strength training thing hold up? I would imagine because we have a much longer ROM that taller people are a little more handicapped.

I was talking to a 6'8" guy at work, he used to train for strength (naturally is what he claims) and he is a big guy. He said he always lacked in the squat/deadlift department because of his height. He says he got his bench up to 500+ though.

Just wanted to see if anyone had any input on this.

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RE: strength training and height - Monday, July 14, 2008 2:16 PM
technically taller guys because they have a larger range of motion in most lifts will have a disadvantage.  However they can pack on much more muscle mass because of a larger frame so theoretically they could be stronger than a shorter guy because of the additional space for muscle.

I have seen though deadlifts are easier for taller guys, i dont know why
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RE: strength training and height - Monday, July 14, 2008 2:24 PM
Yeah I was thinking that, eventually in the long run a taller guy would be able to pack on more mass and surpass the shorter guy.

I suppose its just easier in general for shorter guys to reach mass/strength goals.
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RE: strength training and height - Monday, July 14, 2008 2:41 PM
yea and much easier to look bulky.  I think its pretty much universal from guy to guy regardless of size how much they can put on each week.  So for example guy #1 at 5'6" adds a pound a week and guy #2 at 6'5" adds a pound a week obviously the short guy is gunna get to his weight goals way before the tall guy
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RE: strength training and height - Monday, July 14, 2008 2:42 PM
hmm.. i've tended to notice the opposite, that tall guys have to do more work on deads/squats b/c their legs are longer, and therefore have to go lower and do more work.
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RE: strength training and height - Monday, July 14, 2008 2:43 PM
i think for deads it might be even, taller guys dont need to start as low because they have longer arms,  maybe im crazy lol
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RE: strength training and height - Monday, July 14, 2008 2:47 PM
nah. not crazy at all.  what you said makes sense about the arms too.  

i do know though, that on squats... tall guys have a longer femur, which means that the amount of motion you have to move it to do an ATG squat is higher, which = more work
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RE: strength training and height - Monday, July 14, 2008 3:15 PM
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RE: strength training and height - Monday, July 14, 2008 3:42 PM
Nice post, i have been looking for something like that the past few days but couldnt really find anything related to the topic.

On a side not, I looked at part one and the squatting discussion. Seeing all those wide leg squats made me think about my own squat. I always go with a Olympic stance, feels more natural but I did some reading about wider stances that I never new myself.

taken from another site...

" Foot placement: This really depends. Squatters that like to use more quadriceps typically use a closer Olympic-style type stance. Hip and glute squatters like myself, go medium to wider. There is some experimentation here as to what style best suits you. As a rule of thumb: The wider you go, the more hip and glute will be involved, but it will be more difficult to break parallel.

The shoe: To me, anything with a flat sole is the way to go. Converse chucks, wrestling shoes, basketball shoes, nothing with a heel. That way, you get more of the stronger hip and glute muscles involves as you squat back on your heels. However, close-stance squatters tend to go with a heeled shoe more to help activate more the quadriceps in their squatting. Olympic lifters, close stance squatters, all use a heel to sit back on while squatting. Rule of thumb: If you squat wide, no heel. If you squat close, heel. "





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RE: strength training and height - Monday, July 14, 2008 3:52 PM
Guys who do world's strongest man are tall. Mariusz is 6', Phil Phister is 6'6". A lot of them are around 6'4 - 6'6. Height is no excuse.
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RE: strength training and height - Monday, July 14, 2008 3:56 PM
i dont think its being used as an excuse lol, i would say the taller the better, you can have more muscle then
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RE: strength training and height - Monday, July 14, 2008 4:07 PM
No one is using it as an excuse.

It just always made me wonder if shorter guys have it a little easier, especially while starting out. Its been discussed above, once the taller guy fills out he can pack on a lot more mass on his frame, just takes longer.



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Guys who do world's strongest man are tall. Mariusz is 6', Phil Phister is 6'6". A lot of them are around 6'4 - 6'6. Height is no excuse.

current 5rm On the texas method
Squat:325
Deadlift:365
Bench:255
My lifting journal

http://strengthmill.net/forum/showthread.php?s=38c084ec0455b629ed0f09e4af40aeaf&t=2407&page=8
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RE: strength training and height - Monday, July 14, 2008 7:55 PM
ehh i think its a load a bull honestly everyone strongman or powerlifting
its all about how the execution of the lift is done
 
 
 
 
you talk to any powerlifter they'll tell you exactly what i said
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RE: strength training and height - Monday, July 14, 2008 8:07 PM
Heights not bothering me at this point, it age. 42 inch reach means 42 inch lift off my chest, 42 inch lift over my head, 42 inches away from my torso. leverage is a pain. But, when the muscles come in they look nice with 42 inches.
 
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RE: strength training and height - Monday, July 14, 2008 8:25 PM
20in. biceps on 5'5 with a 28in. waist? thats pretty hard to believe but i guess it happens occasionally.
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