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RE: straps - Wednesday, June 18, 2008 3:41 PM
He's allowed, but it's not available.

Wouldn't straps end up messing you up in the long run? Sure you can always lift it with your back and stuff, but if you constantly use straps, you're always gonna need to use them again and again since you're not developing grip strength.
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RE: straps - Wednesday, June 18, 2008 4:00 PM
right you are kinda shooting yourself in the foot, i only use straps when i absolutely have too otherwise i dont
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RE: straps - Wednesday, June 18, 2008 4:16 PM
I don't use them on my starting reps, when the weight tends to go up to where im doing something for 1 rep i use them 
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RE: straps - Wednesday, June 18, 2008 5:03 PM
 The only thing I use straps for is to whip people with when they try and steal my spot.
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RE: straps - Thursday, June 19, 2008 8:38 AM
WHY? how come not to use straps, i understand you guys dont want to and just dont but why? do you feel you get more out of your workouts with out them? i use them and i feel completely the same
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RE: straps - Thursday, June 19, 2008 9:31 AM
then why use them if it feels the same as not using them?
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RE: straps - Thursday, June 19, 2008 9:36 AM
I just copied this from a similar recent post......here's a basic explaination of why not to use straps...

if something is helping you maintain / hold weight that you cannot do naturally, then it's cheating...

Is using an ****istance machine for pullups cheating?  If you can do 15 pullups using an ****istance machine set on 5 that doesn't mean you can do them with your body weight.. so depending on the perspective... Anything that ****ists with a lift, is in reality... Cheating..

So if someone tells me they can dead 400lbs using straps.. that means absolutely nothing... how much can you dead minus the straps.. that's the number that counts..

The grip is part of the lift..

My grip is not what it should be and I actually consider it horrible.. however, if i rely on straps to support the weight, it allows the supporting muscles that would normally be used to not work as hard... so what's the point?  

I've seen numerous people end up with back issues that stayed with them indefinitely due to strapping too much weight on a bar and trying to lift it....   I know it sounds cliché' but, if you can't hold the weight on your own without ****istance... you probably shouldn't be holding it with ****istance..

If it's due to slipping and not strength issues.. Chalk up.. or buy a new bar... if you're slipping at a gym due to a worn out bar.. complain to the manager.. gripless bars are dangerous.. and should be replaced..

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WHY? how come not to use straps, i understand you guys dont want to and just dont but why? do you feel you get more out of your workouts with out them? i use them and i feel completely the same
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RE: straps - Thursday, June 19, 2008 10:18 AM
not only do i use straps for deadlifts but i use them for shurgs, DB rows, pullups & Pulldowns.
 
Of course i am joking with the above and do not use straps, but i have seen people use straps for every single one of those at the gym.  the pullups was the dudes body weight too.
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RE: straps - Thursday, June 19, 2008 11:16 AM
some people just have small forarms and wrists and its hard to support the weight needed.

Look at arnold his arms from elbow to wrist were tiny, and he used straps for things like wide grip pulls up
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RE: straps - Thursday, June 19, 2008 12:44 PM
exactly why i use them, i have small wrist with big arms it just doesnt work out... however the straps also help keep my wrist stright, and when i dont use them my wrist bend and arent stright, i can still get the weight up it just hurts afterwords. I really dont understand whats so bad about them.
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RE: straps - Thursday, June 19, 2008 1:12 PM
You are encouraging the weakness by relying on straps, the longer you use them the more disproportionate your strength will be. 

You say you have small forearms, and you always use straps... perhaps there is a correlation.


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RE: straps - Thursday, June 19, 2008 1:34 PM
Just because Arnold did it doesn't mean it's the end all solution.. Even someone as great as he is as an icon in BBing... (and action hero)  can just as easily pick up undesirable training techniques....
 

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some people just have small forarms and wrists and its hard to support the weight needed.

Look at arnold his arms from elbow to wrist were tiny, and he used straps for things like wide grip pulls up

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RE: straps - Thursday, June 19, 2008 1:38 PM
my forearms and wrist arm small i bealive because i broke both of them before my left arm twice and had major surgry on them, thats why the straps help me out mostly along with keeping my wrist stright. Mayb ill cut back on them a little bit see where it gets me.
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RE: straps - Thursday, June 19, 2008 1:41 PM
Wrap them, perhaps.

You never stated, that I know of, that you had prior injuries. That may be a different circumstance.


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RE: straps - Thursday, June 19, 2008 9:21 PM

ORIGINAL: mee4414

WHY? how come not to use straps, i understand you guys dont want to and just dont but why? do you feel you get more out of your workouts with out them? i use them and i feel completely the same

 
If you are using them all the time then your lifts will go up but your grip strength wont. This will be a problem when your doing heavy weight and you have to use straps all the time, you have to let your grip catch up to the weight you are lifting.
 
I use straps on back day, at the end of workouts when I have no grip left but only if I have to.
 
What lifts do you use straps for?
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