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slayerboy's Journal - 1/12/2004 9:51:51 PM   
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Ok, here's my journal for all to see. I will try and post after each workout.

STATS
Height: 5'7"
Weight: 227.5 lbs (as of this posting)
Bodyfat: 24.4% (as of this posting)
Goal Bodyfat: 16% by (04/25/04)
Lean Body Mass: 172 lbs

I need to definitely dial my diet in, no matter if I work a crazy schedule or not. We'll see what happens. If I could achieve this, it would be a great confidence booster.

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I changed my goals as a result of reading chapter one of BFFM.Smile

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If you would like my nuitrional stats, take a look at my FitDay Diary. {Too much to do right now, using it as a tool to assess my nuitrion in an average week if I need to re-assess my nuitrion.}
Goal Weight: 210 lbs (04/30/04) {Don't care about weight as long as BF% is there.}
Goal Lean Body Mass: 189 lbs by (04/30/04) {While I'd like to preserve it, It's not possible to really gain LBM if your cutting.}

Changed:
Goal Bodyfat: 10% by (04/30/04) to Goal Bodyfat: 16% by (04/25/04)

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RE: slayerboy's Journal - 1/12/2004 9:57:23 PM   
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There's nothing wrong with that LBM goal, what I read in this book is that high goals are good! But having unrealistic deadlines is more likely apt to failure.

But I am not saying that in relation to you, It's just something I wanted to share.Smile

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RE: slayerboy's Journal - 1/13/2004 4:02:20 AM   
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Ok, here's my workout from last night -- sorry it took so long to post:


High Row (plate machine)
{12x50}, 8x100, 8x120, 8x130 <15x100>

Lat Pull Down (cable machine)
8x60, 8x80, 8x90 <12x60>

Low Row (plate machine)
8x70, 8x90, 8x100 <13x70>

EDITED: I changed the weight in the above sets to reflect more accurately. I record the weight I put on one side for ease of reading faster and I forgot to double it to accurately reflect the weight.

Bicep Curl (plate machine)
{12*10}, 8x20, 8x30, 6x35 <4x20>

Rope Hammer Curl (cable)
8x45, 8x55, 8x65 <14x45>

Single Arm Curl (cable)
8x15, 8x25, 6/8x30 <6/8x15>


The sets in {} mean warm-ups, and the sets in <> mean that they were done immediately following the last set to failure. Stretches occured randomly throughout sets.

EDITED: These weights do not include the weight of any additional equipment (i.e., the weight of the bar, handle, or rope) in any workouts.

I am trying to take my workouts a step further after almost 2 weeks off from training (last week I trained very light to get me into the swing of things). I am trying to follow a style similar to MaxOT, but not exactly. I read in several places that descending sets till failure are good to achieve overload, although I am not sure how correct that is. I only train each bodypart once a week with exception to abs. Today was the first day that I started using FitDay to track my nuitrtion. Now, with this tool I should be able to track my results easier than writing them down in a composition book and not seeing them graphicly.

I woke up this morning and my back felt great and my bis didn't hurt a bit. I even woke up 20 minutes before the alarm!!!

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RE: slayerboy's Journal - 1/13/2004 8:47:41 PM   
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Sounds like you are making really good progress! I am making pretty good progress through this book. I'll be there shortly Smile heh

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RE: slayerboy's Journal - 1/14/2004 4:17:50 PM   
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this should have been yesterday's entry, but I was too pressed for time when I got home.

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Stairmaster: 2x10min/level 1/33spm, 1x10min/level 2/38spm -- all done consecutively

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RE: slayerboy's Journal - 1/14/2004 4:19:00 PM   
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thanks man for the supportSmile

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RE: slayerboy's Journal - 1/14/2004 4:31:48 PM   
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this morning I woke up after the first time hitting the snooze...DOH! It does fell like I can feel more muscles in my back and I have more flexibility in my back (if that's possible...LOL). No soreness in my back or bi's. I'm kinda disappointed. I want something to start being sore again! LOL

I also noticed that I am not getting nearly enough protein. Before I can even think about changing it, I need to do something about my meal situation. I am going too long between meals at work and it is killing me. I feel like I can eat a horse when I am on lunch and when I come home. I don't get enough time to eat a protein bar at work or I forget about it. I need to be able to take my breaks the way most normal people do. I was actually thinking about taking a bag of peanuts to work and every once in a while munching on them when it gets slow or I am repairing a computer. I don't know. I guess I have to expirement and see what happens. Heck, I can't wait to get my arse outta that job, so this just gives me more incentive. I have a feeling that once I get my diet dialed in that I am gonna be able to manipulate my bodyfat and muscle in almost any way I want depending on how I eat.

The other part to this that has to get solved is space in the frig. I still live with my 'rents and I don't have the space to cook up enough for the whole week on top of my regular grocery shopping. I would love to eat more veggies like cucumbers and salad and celery, but I don't have the room.

Man...if I had only known when I was 18 and deciding not to go to college at the last minute. I wouldn't be 26 and stuck in a dead-end retail job. Ironic that I have enough schooling to get a bacholer's, but I don't have enough credits to get one because of "non-transferable credits" LOL. Who would have known that it would have also caused me so much anxiety about actually trying to eat right!

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RE: slayerboy's Journal - 1/15/2004 5:51:02 AM   
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man, i'll tell you what. before I give my workout that I did last tonight, I gotta rant.

I am really happy that my gym is crowded right now. It makes me happy to see people working out. BUT.....some of these people don't have any respect or common courtesy, and then the rest think that the gym is for catching up with buddies while they workout. I know I can't be the only one who can't stand socializing at the gym. I put on my headphones, crank the volume, and "ignore" everyone else. It's getting bad there right now though. I hope this is doesn't last, and I don't think it will. I just think it's stupid that you would go to a gym, pay $50 or whatever a month, and then socialize half the time you are there. Me, I want to do my workout....LEAVE ME ALONE! I'm not trying to be an a-hole about this. I am just sick of people hogging up the equipment and talking while they're not doing anything. And you ask them if you can jump in for a sec and they say they're working out!

ahem......

My workouts actually didn't go too bad, with the exception of one. Shoulder Press sets 2 and 3 were horrific. It's like I had a switch get turned off in me. I could barely lift the weight on set 3! I think the major difference was that I had to do the upright row before the presses because the machine was being used. Or I think I might have warmed up with too much weight and possibly increased it too much on set 2. Next week I'll see if I can lower the warm-up and copmlete more reps in sets 2 and 3 with lower weight.



Leg Extensions (plate machine)
{12x25}, 8x50, 8x60, 8x65 <10x50>

Leg Curl (plate machine)
{12x20}, 8x40, 8x50, 8x55 <8x40>

Seated Calf Raises (plate machine)
{12x45}, 8x75, 8x85, 8x95 <10x75>


Dumbell Raises (weight is for each side)
12x5, 12x10, 12x15

Shoulder Press (plate machine)
{12x30}, 8x60, 6x70, 4x70

Upright Row (cable)
[12x50}, 8x75, 8x85, 8x95 <10x75>



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RE: slayerboy's Journal - 1/17/2004 11:02:47 AM   
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I hear that.. Today for the second time, these 2 roid heads worked out. There's only like 12 people in the whole downstairs part of the gym and they are talking to each other very loudly. As if to say.. Hey.. look at me.

Annoying as hell. Luckily I had a great back workout but I bailed on shoulders soon after as they were just too annoying to listen to anymore. That is when I wish I had my MP3 player.

Keep up the good work Slayerboy.

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RE: slayerboy's Journal - 1/17/2004 11:17:13 AM   
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I like working out in the gym very much, it has a nice atmosphere of a lot of positive people. You have the newbies, the inter-mediate, and the experienced bodybuilders. Surprisingly when I was still a member of my old gym; The newbies were definitely dedicated! I saw everyone of them come back to that gym for something like 6 months, until I left. Of course there were the people who didn't have a clue about exercise (cardio-vascular or weight training) and would talk among themselves. No body else would interact with them because they knew what a pain in the a*s they could be. I saw them leave after a week... It didn't surprise me because the only thing they talked about were their new years resolutions. And how, they hoped to stick this out, as they might not have time to work out with their busy schedules. But instead of letting that ignorance get to me, I just smiled to myself, and kept on chuggin'Smile

Sorry about that, I know this is Slayer's Journal... Your plan for the shoulder work out seems like a good way to go.

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RE: slayerboy's Journal - 1/21/2004 3:57:17 PM   
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Well...I didn't realize how much working out is as much physical as it is psychological. I think I might suffer from OCD -- obsessive compulsive disorder. Both my parents have it, so it's something I always thought it was normal. However, this past week, I've had some experiences that have made me realize that I might be taking this all just a little too seriously. Let's just say that I missed my workout on Friday because I had worked 30 hours in three days. That woud normally not phase me, but retail is the worst job anyone can have. Spending 30 hours in three days in a retail store will drive anyone nuts. I was exhausted on Friday. I beat myself up for missing the workout on Saturday and then I went to visit my sis and bro-in-law for the weekend. Needless to say, I didn't get any rest this weekend. Then we went to a casino on Sunday and there was smoking allowed in there.

WOW! I never wanted a cigarette so bad in my life. I struggled for 2 days to not buy a pack. I didn't work out on Monday because I was so tired from working another 10 hour day. I slept 11 hours that night. Yesterday, I worked 8 hours and was still exhausted when I got home. By now I was depressed because my diet was out of whack and my workouts were out of whack and work is sucking big time. And everything is just spinning out of control for me.

I've finally come to the realization that I need to change my workout. I've been using the same workouts for almost 4 months and I need a change. I also have to stop taking my nuitrition so seriously. Yes, it's important to get the right diet in, but my job doesn't allow me to eat at scheduled times, and I certainly don't need to get down on myself any more for eating a little extra in another meal because I can't get 6 meals a day in.

I am working my arse off at work. I should have taken last weekend to recover from work, but obviously I want to do it all, and I didn't. I'm still exhausted, but I still need to push myself to workout to relieve some of this stress that I am feeling at work. I need to change jobs, that's what I really need to do.....and I'm trying. There's just not enough time in the day anymore, there really isn't. I remember when I used to go to school full-time, work full-time, and workout. I felt fine duriing the day and that was only last year. I don't know what the heck has changed. I think a lot of it has to do with lack of sunshine. It's been so god-darn cold up here this month, and I am miserable, everyone is miserable. Today was the first whole day that the sun was out and everyone was in such a better mood. I'm gonna end up moving to the southwest yet...LOL.

Anyways, I'm gonna try and workout tonight. I need to. I might take down my account at FitDay for right now. It's just too much to keep track of my diet. I think if I eat the way I have been I'll do fine as long as I get in my cardio that I need.

I wish I had listened to everyone and just went to college right after high school. Would have made my life a heckuva lot easier...LOL.

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RE: slayerboy's Journal - 1/21/2004 4:08:48 PM   
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Well I was sort of wondering where you went off to.

Great post.. mainly because it was so personal.

My only advice to you is:

Chill

Because I'd rather see you post occasionally, workout when you can, and eat.. and gain knowledge over time then to be so stressed out you feel this whole thing is too complicated and a massive pain and just quit entirely.

You've made some major changes already to your life.. the smoking thing, the getting into fitness thing.. you might have had all the extra energy because you were so motivated to continue forward. But now.. you've made those changes, now it's back to work and your energy is less.

Remember when you were so excited for Christmas or a party that if you didn't sleep the night before, you never got tired? Now if you don't sleep the next day is a bummer?

I'd take the time to just do your diet and workout but in a more laid back and controlled fashion. If you miss 1 workout.. big deal. If you miss a week, consider it a training break. But always chug along slowly. You really have done quite a lot to contribute to this board and your overall health.

Maybe now you need to get into a nice pace where it's fun again and not an OMG.. I don't have time for all this. Hey.. if you can only eat 3x a day.. but those meals are healthy and towards a goal, it's better then saying F this and giving up entirely.

Now's the time to try and get into a groove. Switch up the routine. Add some variety. Maybe make the workouts more intense but shorter so you don't feel like there's no time left.

Keep it up dude. Just pace yourself.

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RE: slayerboy's Journal - 1/22/2004 9:32:34 PM   
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Thanks for the support mda. I appreciate it. Last night I didn't get to the gym, but tonight I did. I sat down and looked at ExRx and came up with a plan that looks like this:


4 Day Split Workout

A: Back & Biceps
1. Cable Lat Pulldown
2. Dumbbell Bent Over Row
3. Lever Seated High Row
4. Dumbbell Curl
5. Dumbbell Concentration Curl

B: Chest & Triceps
1. Lever Bench Press
2. Lever Incline Chest Press
3. Dumbbell Fly
4. Dumbbell Triceps Extension
5. Cable Pushdown

C: Thighs & Calves
1. Barbell Squat
2. Barbell Straight Leg Deadlift
3. Lever 45 Degree Leg Press
4. Lever Lying Leg Curl
5. Lever Seated Calf Raise

D: Shoulders & Abs
1. Dumbbell Shoulder Press
2. Dumbbell Upright Row
3. Dumbbell Row
4. Dumbbell Shrug
5. Crunch



I pretty much tried to follow ExRx's 4 day split workout, but made it thighs and calves instead of shoulders, abs, and calves. That would have taken forever. I wanted to concentrate on the freeweights, and I want to really get used to using dumbbells more often.

Tonight was the first night of this new routine, and I think I like it:


Cable Lat Pulldown
(40x12) 80x10 80x8 80x11

Dumbbell Bent Over Row
15x10 15x10 20x12

Lever Seated High Row
90x12 110x8 110x8


Dumbbell Curl
5x12 15x12 15x11 20x8

Dumbbell Concentration Curl
5x12 20x4/8 15x6/8 15x7/11



I am planning on doing a warm-up set on the first workout for the muscle, two "fixed" sets of 6-8 reps, and then a third set to failure. I was kind of all over the place because I needed to gauge how much I could handle with the dumbbells. I like doing the last set to failure because it lets me know if the weight is right or not. If I can do 12 reps on the last set, next time I need to adjust my weight higher. I plan on doing this for the first time through this routine, and then I'll know what weights I should be using.

I really like using the dumbbells to work biceps. It feels so much more natural than a machine. I can definitely tell now that my left side is weaker than my right, at least in the biceps. I was quite shocked to see my progression on the concentration curls. I'll have to see if that becomes a trend next time.

What a difference one less workout makes, both time and psychologicaly. I pushed myself harder with my bi's knowing that I only had 2 workouts and I needed to make the best of them. Whereas before, I was "saving" myself for the 3rd workout.

I think it's finally sunk into my thick head that just because I lift weights, doesn't mean I have to aim to be a pro bodybuilder. Nuitrition is a big part of it, but I need to live life. I let all the magazine articles and ads get to me about following a regimented nuitrion plan and workout plan, but it's too stressfull. I'd rather gradually make changes than stress myself out. I've come to the conclusion that if something isn't a life or death situation, it's not worth stressing out about. I need to go with the flow more both in life and in my career.

I do have to say it feels awesome to be in a new routine. I'm so much happier! Now, I just have to remember to switch things up in a couple of months before I get sick of this routine.

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RE: slayerboy's Journal - 1/23/2004 9:21:27 PM   
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Here's today's workout:


Lever Bench Press
(20x12) 40x10 60x8 60x10

Lever Incline Chest Press
40x12 60x8 60x10

Dumbbell Fly
10x8 10x8 10x10


Dumbbell Triceps Extension
(10x12) 15x10 20x9 25x10

Cable Pushdown
50x12 60x12 80x12


Cardio (bike) - 20 min



I'm not liking the dumbbell flys. i'm gonna give them one more try and see if I like them better.

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RE: slayerboy's Journal - 1/23/2004 9:28:21 PM   
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You can always switch over to cable flyes if it feels more comfortable.

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RE: slayerboy's Journal - 1/23/2004 10:03:59 PM   
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yeah, i did those in my last routine. I wasn't impressed with the way the cables felt, that's why I want to give the dumbbells one more try. I tried the pec deck too, and that didn't feel natural at all. We'll seeSmile

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RE: slayerboy's Journal - 1/23/2004 10:18:35 PM   
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I haven't done flyes or cable movements in some time.

I basically do pressing movements. If I do flyes.. either or (cable or dumbbell) seems fine. I don't like most pecs decks as I feel like my shoulder will be dislocated.

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RE: slayerboy's Journal - 1/24/2004 8:12:29 AM   
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Smith Squat
0x12
20x12
30x12
40x8

Barbell Straight Leg Deadlift
0x12
5x8
5x8
5x8

Lever 45 Degree Leg Press
40x12
60x12
80x12

Lever Lying Leg Curl
25x8
35x6
35x7

Lever Seated Calf Raise
50x12
60x12
70x12

Ok, I think I am doing the squats and the straight-leg deadlift wrong. When I do the squats, my shoulders ache a little after I am done with my set. Maybe cuz I'm not used to the weight resting like that? And with the straight leg deadlift, my lower back aches after I perform the set. Maybe I should switch to Smith Goodmornings. I'm not liking the straight-leg deadlifts. I have to say, that was the best leg workout i've ever had tho. My hamstrings are still sore. Quads feel like they could be worked way more than they were. I'm gonna like the leg pressSmile

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RE: slayerboy's Journal - 1/24/2004 12:00:25 PM   
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On the SLDL, make sure your back is flat like a board and not rounding towards the bottom of the movement. It does hit the lower back though.. no doubts.. but just make sure you are looking out.. not down.. and keep the lower back as flat as possible.

Shoulders shouldn't be sore. Traps maybe.. or the upper part of the back.. Could be you've got the weight too high.. try putting the bar so that it's resting on the top of your rear delts.. lower traps.. rather then having your delts and upper traps support the weight.

Smith Goodmornings? Heck no.

1) Stay away from goodmornings

2) I'm not sure doing it on a Smith would even work as the range of motion would be unnatural

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RE: slayerboy's Journal - 1/24/2004 12:10:36 PM   
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come to think of it, when I did the squats, I remember at first holding the bar on my traps, then I went down to the lower traps/upper back. It was fine when I had it on my traps. Hmm...i'll have to expirment.

ok...no goodmornings...LOL except for the kind when I wake upSmile

and I think i was looking down when I did the SLDL. next time I'll look up. This is all a learning experience. I love itSmile Thanks man!

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