shut downs associated with M-1-T

You will never see me indignant. I am the one pressing people's buttons around here. You have a good thing going with this denial. Since it will be illegal in a few days you can continue to sit on your stump and doubt its validity because there will never be any double blind tests.

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You know Naviator, I've been hearing about them making PH's illegal for over two years now. You know why? Because it sells more product.

It is not denial to ask for proof, it's called being a skeptic.

The burden of proof is not on the skeptic, it's on the people making the claims.

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I am in full agreement that most Prohormones are crap. That 1-AD I tried was not exactly a joke, but nothing like they claimed. I also truly respect your position as a skeptic. However, there is not just one way to, ahem, "skin a cat." If so, ecstasy would not be the menacing club drug that it is. Are you going to tell me that elicit narcotics remain harmless until proven otherwise through proper testing? Why bother when word of mouth is such a powerful advertisement? The burden of proof IS most cetainly on the claimant, but why should he spend his money to prove what is already assumed true? To get Powerhaus to try it, too? It would have been detrimental because proof would only get it banned faster. Sometimes you need to take the word of someone who is not trying to sell you something and has nothing to gain from your belief. Methyl One-Test truly is something different, and it affects the body in a much more profound way than other prohormones.

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Applying street drug marketing as proof of the effectiveness of dietary supplements. Wow, the supplement industry should have testify before congress.

The most effective drug ever given has been the sugar pill. It has (based on reports from those taking it) cured just about everything, given people energy, helped them sleep, and pretty much done anything that the people giving it out claimed it would.

Double-blind studies are not expensive nor do they take a long time, at least not for a smaller study, which is what they always start with. However, the supplement industry does not invest a dime into such studies, because htey don't care about providing safe and effective products, they only care about making money.

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I was only trying to draw a parallel of the type of word-of-mouth testimonial spread that the two share in common. "This **** is great! try it." Sugar pills work only on people that are expecting a result. I never expected what I got from the Prohormones I tried. On the other hand, I WAS expecting results from some other supplements and was sadly disappointed. I don't see how you can so adamantly profess disbelief toward what so many hundreds of serious people have experienced for themselves. This isn't Christianity, it has repeated outward physical trends that are obvious. How many people say the same things about M 1-T that they preach about, say, Syntrax Syntrabol? Have you honestly heard anyone say that they've done two weeks on 20mg/day M 1-T and experienced nothing? How about NO2? Big difference in testimonials.

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Whatever. Dr. Watson's Cure-All blood tonic back in 1901 was real propular too.

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This has been enjoyable, and probably not the last time we'll discuss it.

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Actually I think it is.

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it does drop your natural test levels while on cycle...but for after if you do a correct post cycle it will go back to normal or at least around there. For post cycles i start 6-oxo within the last week of my cycle then finish off the bottle stacking it with ZMA and tribulus.