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shoulder injuries , loose joints - Thursday, January 22, 2009 2:45 PM ( #1 )
been lifting 1.5 years , i dont think im overtraining even tho some of u say i am , i do like 3-4 exercises , per muscle , 3-4 sets 8-10 reps ,  the last two weeks my shoulder i guess have gotten worse with ym new routine training chest and shoulders on the same day. i dont go crazy on weight tho ill grab heavy but not really heavy... something where i can squeeze out 8-10 with good form ont he first set..theres kids half my size that come in and lift more. 
 
 my joints over all are weak ,  they pop consttantly but since lifting weights even more so even putting ona t shirt my shoulders will pop then 1 minute later maybe stretching or  moving something they pop again its so stupid.  at first it was only my left one , for example if i do a pull up , my left shoulder as i go back down grinds and pops , plus the collar bone for some reason , on my left side , their both sooo bad , i dont get it , i dont think im over training , i try to lift moderately heavy weights to promote growth , i think i just have all over problems with my joints , my knees even pop now and i dont even work my legs!!!
 
 lower back is ****ed i have bad range motion ,
 i try to stretch  my shoulder with the classic one arm across the chest dealy , adn it doesnt even feel like im strechting them , actually  feel it im my chest ,  i stretch one thing and feel it somewhere else and its so frustrating.
 
 probably need a personal trainer i do make gains but there bitter sweet , my bis ( plus massive stretch marks between my shoulders and  on my bis !! :(  i even get stretch marks when i dont make gains ahhhh! )and tris get big but i have absolutely no delts  so my arms look fat almost , i desprately want shoulders by summer time , so help! thats 6 months!  i know that i cant do upright rows they hurt. no matter how low the weight isi just snap crackle and pop , and its wierd i see people do side laterals differnt ways some people lean forward and pull them up with there albows almost at a 90 degree angle  and some just stand straigh up and pull them up completly parelle to the body ,   dunno which is better cuz i obviously need some major gains on my side delts! but no matter the weight and the way i do it even when i focus on form  i like... 1 rep is good the next feels wrong , i dunno guys im tired of whining on the website to u guys , i feel like ive tried everything..  can someone give me a routine to help make  my shoulders not pop anymore , and dunno if anyone knows anything about collar bones , and also  just a routine thatll make my side delts huge , cuz summers coming , ..
 
 the shoudler are so bad that sleeping on them feels like im damaging them , cuz i sleep on my sides i feel like my bodyweigh is crushing them.. help guys!
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Re:shoulder injuries , loose joints - Thursday, January 22, 2009 4:49 PM ( #2 )
I don't get what your asking.
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Re:shoulder injuries , loose joints - Thursday, January 22, 2009 5:20 PM ( #3 )
ya i ramble on with every post  , guess i get side tracked , im asking if there is a routine that i could do out there  that would strengthen iguess the rotator cuff and work alot of the side delts  cuz i really need mass there . without doing things that could worsen my problem  thanks
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Re:shoulder injuries , loose joints - Thursday, January 22, 2009 6:01 PM ( #4 )
Haha I get it I do it alot to, um I don't know much about rotator cuff recovery and stuff, but kublakhan and bulking up know some stuff about it, so i'm sure if you sent them a pm or if they see this thread they will be happy to help (:
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Re:shoulder injuries , loose joints - Thursday, January 22, 2009 6:02 PM ( #5 )
Take some glucosamine or cissux is good for joints.  Try doing some shoulder dislocation/broomstick stretches.  They are great for shoulder pain/flexibility.
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Re:shoulder injuries , loose joints - Thursday, January 22, 2009 6:10 PM ( #6 )

have a link to demonstrate those stretches? i never heard of them
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Re:shoulder injuries , loose joints - Thursday, January 22, 2009 6:30 PM ( #7 )
Wondering, how old are you?

Also, I've had similar problems in the past, and I find it helps to make sure you are doing the exercises properly.  Not to be insulting but even if you have been lifting weights for 1.5 years it doesn't mean you have been doing the lifts properly for 1.5 years.  I myself have been lifting for three years and constantly find myself learning proper ways of doing exercises I have been doing poorly, it just takes time.

Where I'm going with this is your joint problems may or may not be related to you improperly utilizing your shoulders, the next time you lift, if you find yourself focusing on your joint problem, you have found the problem.  Go about your routine naturally and don't focus on the negatives. 

From your last paragraph it sounds as if you don't work your shoulders often, and it has been my personal experience that these groups are the most difficult to break in for first time trainers.

I'm sure this didn't help at all but if you want to talk to me privately about anything I'd be happy to help.
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Re:shoulder injuries , loose joints - Thursday, January 22, 2009 6:31 PM ( #8 )
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Re:shoulder injuries , loose joints - Monday, January 26, 2009 2:08 PM ( #9 )
I work out at a gym that specializes in injury recovery. They have machines that are bulit specifically for strengthening the rotator cuff. I would ask at the gym you go to if they have a machine made for that because its a pretty common machine that I have seen more than once. 

If not the motion can be duplicated useing a cable machine. keep your bicep against your body and hold your forarm at a 90 degree angle and swing it around and back. Like having your arm in a sling and pulling the cable at the same time.
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