should i start adding 2 shoulder exercises?

ahh.. i just started bodybuiling about 3 weeks ago and gaining some muscles
I am just working my ass off with compound exercises and ditching isolations
I read someone's post saying if i want a broader should i need to work on lateral and posterior deltoids. Do you think its ok for me to start doing lateral db raise and db rear delt row even though they are isolators? btw i have currently been doing upright row and db raises. I really want a sexy looking shoulder!

whats wrong with isolation exercises?

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ahh.. i just started bodybuiling about 3 weeks ago and gaining some muscles
I am just working my ass off with compound exercises and ditching isolations
I read someone's post saying if i want a broader should i need to work on lateral and posterior deltoids. Do you think its ok for me to start doing lateral db raise and db rear delt row even though they are isolators? btw i have currently been doing upright row and db raises. I really want a sexy looking shoulder!

Upright rows will hit the lateral delts sufficiently. Adding more workouts won't accelerate progress.

Read this btw, upright rows are a good workout but they do require some extra consideration to avoid shoulder damage. Some of the more squeamish lifters avoid them altogether (unnecessary if the proper precautions are taken). Essentially... use a shoulder width or wider grip to ensure greater safety.

Taken from ExRX.com: http://www.exrx.net/WeightTraining/Safety.html#anchor64967
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Upright Row Safety

A shoulder width grip is suggested when performing the upright row. The greater internal rotation required for a close grip upright row decreases the subacromial space (area between the greater tubercle of the humerus and acromioclavicular joint). This may potentially impinge the supraspinatus tendon and the subacromial bursa (a protective sac of fluid cushioning the bone from the tendon). A wider grip allows for more space between the shoulder joint and the head of the humerus allowing for more clearance of the underlying structures. For the same reason, when performing a one arm upright row, keep the elbow pointing directly to the side, instead of angling it slightly to the front. The subacromial space as well as other biomechanical and biometric factors vary from person to person so some individuals may be more prone to complications while others report no problems performing the narrower grip upright row. Also see Over Generalizations."

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Usually when I get to the top of my deadlift I'll do a reverse-grip curl.

but is it ok if i work on my posterior deltoids?

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but is it ok if i work on my posterior deltoids?

 
i would say since ur new to lifting u should stay away from isos right now.
 
isolations are a very useful mode of training if u know how to do them.
 
just stick to ur heavy compunds right now, ur delts should be getting plenty of stimulation

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but is it ok if i work on my posterior deltoids?

Well, rear delt row is a compound lift so I would give it a shot but keep in mind.
-I'm saying give it a shot because posterior delts are probably the least effected of the 3 deltoid heads in terms of military press and upright rows. If you are already doing barbell and or dumbbell rows (also power cleans) on your back day you might be getting enough of a posterior delt workout from those lifts. They are not geared specifically to posterior delts but for somebody new to lifting they will inflict enough collateral damage to cause some more than decent growth.

also... if your workouts start to run too long the first thing id cut is the rear delt rows, not worth working out for too much longer than an hour just to specifically hit every muscle you possibly can.

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Usually when I get to the top of my deadlift I'll do a reverse-grip curl.

ORIGINAL: SBCdaniel007

 Do you think its ok for me to start doing lateral db raise and db rear delt row even though they are isolators? btw i have currently been doing upright row and db raises.

 
is that your current routine- upright row and db raises.
 
if so you should be doing
-bb or db overhead press
-maybe some side raises and
-reverse flys

well the only reason why i do upright rows are for traps
i feel like if i leave upright row, then my traps will lag behind

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well the only reason why i do upright rows are for traps
i feel like if i leave upright row, then my traps will lag behind

 
well if u do deadlifts then ur traps are getting some stimulation then also
 
but if u want to hit ur traps i think shrugs would be more beneficial then uprightrows. shrugs really hit the traps more imo

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bench:290 squat:405 deadlift:420

it all depends on you body hommie, for me, up right rows him my shouldres more than my traps. but i also do db shrugs. heres my rutine
 
Barbell Shoulder Press 65*8-10
Front Cable Raise 30*8-10
Lateral Raise 30*8-10
up right rows 80*8-10
shrugs 180*8-10

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