see where im at

ORIGINAL: Soccerking3000

no i havent taken it, but its not original halodrol for the record and as yet said its just dhea

No its not just dhea...
But your comment that its not going to do anything...is way off base...especially for someone who has no knowledge of the product other than hearsay...
 
 

maverickkeepsitreal said:

Advice-You only need to be taking Superpump, Size On, Whey, Multi-Recommend Animal Pak, and Maybe the Plasma Jet. I take that stack. You don't need novedex or Halordol...waste of money, especially Novedex, it will only harm your body.

 
Worst advice ever...HaHaHa

Current Stack: HDROL,Celltech,Superpump 250, Glutamine,Beta alanine,Whey protein.

Just to clarify for everyone Haladrol Liquid Gels ARE NOT  the same as the original Haladrol.  It is not a designer steroid

Some of the ingredients include
Arachidonic Acid
Stinging Nettle Root (also found in DS Activate)
ecdysterone
DHEA

thats from njmuscle, and to be honest dhea and some organic stuff isnt going to make you gain that much weight/muscle faster than a good diet...

Actually, the FDA is trying to ban Arachidonic Acid because of it's potency it's considered in the steroid category.

President of the Emancipation Detoxification. DBB's oldest forum group, punching baby seals since 2/12/08

ORIGINAL: Soccerking3000

Just to clarify for everyone Haladrol Liquid Gels ARE NOT  the same as the original Haladrol.  It is not a designer steroid

Some of the ingredients include
Arachidonic Acid
Stinging Nettle Root (also found in DS Activate)
ecdysterone
DHEA

thats from njmuscle, and to be honest dhea and some organic stuff isnt going to make you gain that much weight/muscle faster than a good diet...

LOL...the voice of inexperience again....LOL

Yet
Actually, the FDA is trying to ban Arachidonic Acid because of it's potency it's considered in the steroid category.

Thats true...and would explain why some sides usually associated with AAS/PH ,were present when I used Halodrol liquigells.
I was really impressed with this product.
I gained 8 pounds in 4 weeks....never did that with diet alone...not at the stage I'm at now anyhow...the pounds don't come easy.
Just ticks me off when people bash a product they've never tried.

Current Stack: HDROL,Celltech,Superpump 250, Glutamine,Beta alanine,Whey protein.

see that doesnt exactly matter though you arent a 17 or 19 year old guy who has extremely high test levels as it is, it kinda makes your argument moot that it made you put on weight.

ORIGINAL: Soccerking3000

see that doesnt exactly matter though you arent a 17 or 19 year old guy who has extremely high test levels as it is, it kinda makes your argument moot that it made you put on weight.

The fact you know nothing about it makes your argument moot.

If it wasn't painfully difficult then you didn't do it right

age:18
5' 81/2"
173 lbs
goal : 195


supplements: Multi, fish oil

ORIGINAL: Soccerking3000

see that doesnt exactly matter though you arent a 17 or 19 year old guy who has extremely high test levels as it is, it kinda makes your argument moot that it made you put on weight.

 
WTF????????
That makes no sense whatsoever....A 17 year old has no business taking ph/test boosters.
a 44 year old ecto who puts on 8 pounds in 4 weeks....with somewhat reduced test levels(as compared to a 17 year old anyhow) would tend to prove it's a worthwhile product.
Don't bash products you know NOTHING about....
thats my point!

Current Stack: HDROL,Celltech,Superpump 250, Glutamine,Beta alanine,Whey protein.

ORIGINAL: HEARTS

ORIGINAL: Soccerking3000

see that doesnt exactly matter though you arent a 17 or 19 year old guy who has extremely high test levels as it is, it kinda makes your argument moot that it made you put on weight.

The fact you know nothing about it makes your argument moot.

all i said was what was in it, which i was correct in stating.  As for what i said before to you bulking, any type of test booster or dhea product could give you those gains (a 44 year old will have greatly lower free test over a 17 year old), halodrol liquid gels are just playing off the original halodrol name and it really isnt a steroid or ph... yet at least.  And i was referring that it wouldnt do much for him a 17 year old with hormones out the ass, i didnt say a 44 year old ecto with lower test.

ORIGINAL: Soccerking3000

ORIGINAL: HEARTS

ORIGINAL: Soccerking3000

see that doesnt exactly matter though you arent a 17 or 19 year old guy who has extremely high test levels as it is, it kinda makes your argument moot that it made you put on weight.

The fact you know nothing about it makes your argument moot.

all i said was what was in it, which i was correct in stating.  As for what i said before to you bulking, any type of test booster or dhea product could give you those gains (a 44 year old will have greatly lower free test over a 17 year old), halodrol liquid gels are just playing off the original halodrol name and it really isnt a steroid or ph... yet at least.

meaning it's a sh!t product that doesn't work???
Halodrol LG isn't a test booster...and you have no working knowledge or nothing to base your "opinions" on. Stick to giving advice on subjects that you have at least tried or have some working knowledge of...not because "NJmuscle" said so....HaHa...maybe even research a product before you go around bashing it (novel approach).
When you go around bashing a good product like the ones Gaspari makes...you could be preventing someone from taking a beneficial product...just because"soccerking" said it was sh!t....Oh and by the way...test boosters by themselves don't pack on the weight,and stating that "any DHEA or test booster would give you those gains" is laughable...but with the way you just give out suspect information on subjects you know nothing about...its really no surprise...

Current Stack: HDROL,Celltech,Superpump 250, Glutamine,Beta alanine,Whey protein.

lookin for advice to tone this up a bit any ideas...diet is mainly protein maybe more cardio or abd with weight??? suggestions?

Looks like your all set.
Just make sure you eat 100% clean cut diet. cut SOME carbs out. Protein more UP and do cardio !
If you drop weight to fast then your overdoing it.

This city deserves a better class of criminal, & i'm gonna give it to em.

ORIGINAL: dirty billy goat

lookin for advice to tone this up a bit any ideas...diet is mainly protein maybe more cardio or abd with weight??? suggestions?

Looks like your all set.
Just make sure you eat 100% clean cut diet. cut SOME carbs out. Protein more UP and do cardio !
If you drop weight to fast then your overdoing it.

 
 
thank you ive havnt dropped weight at all but i am seein myself tone more and more each day....is it a good idea to bulk up then cut??? which would be better for me

Age: 20
Weight: 170

STACK:
superpump 250
size on
halodrol liquid gels
plasmaJet NO maximizer
Novadex XT
fish body oils 1000
ripped hardcore fat burner
100% whey protein
super bcaa 2200

I think it would be much better for you to bulk and then cut.

ORIGINAL: Mad_X_00

ORIGINAL: dirty billy goat

lookin for advice to tone this up a bit any ideas...diet is mainly protein maybe more cardio or abd with weight??? suggestions?

Looks like your all set.
Just make sure you eat 100% clean cut diet. cut SOME carbs out. Protein more UP and do cardio !
If you drop weight to fast then your overdoing it.

thank you ive havnt dropped weight at all but i am seein myself tone more and more each day....is it a good idea to bulk up then cut??? which would be better for me

6'3"  @213

Squat 1x20x275

press:200, Deadlift:475, Bench:300, P.clean:235, Squat:385

"The only failure that is final is to stop trying to improve"

ORIGINAL: bulkingup

ORIGINAL: Soccerking3000

ORIGINAL: HEARTS

ORIGINAL: Soccerking3000

see that doesnt exactly matter though you arent a 17 or 19 year old guy who has extremely high test levels as it is, it kinda makes your argument moot that it made you put on weight.

The fact you know nothing about it makes your argument moot.

all i said was what was in it, which i was correct in stating.  As for what i said before to you bulking, any type of test booster or dhea product could give you those gains (a 44 year old will have greatly lower free test over a 17 year old), halodrol liquid gels are just playing off the original halodrol name and it really isnt a steroid or ph... yet at least.

meaning it's a sh!t product that doesn't work???
Halodrol LG isn't a test booster...and you have no working knowledge or nothing to base your "opinions" on. Stick to giving advice on subjects that you have at least tried or have some working knowledge of...not because "NJmuscle" said so....HaHa...maybe even research a product before you go around bashing it (novel approach).
When you go around bashing a good product like the ones Gaspari makes...you could be preventing someone from taking a beneficial product...just because"soccerking" said it was sh!t....Oh and by the way...test boosters by themselves don't pack on the weight,and stating that "any DHEA or test booster would give you those gains" is laughable...but with the way you just give out suspect information on subjects you know nothing about...its really no surprise...

wow what crawled up your ass and died, relax i cant state my opinion if i want to, dont get your panties in a bunch over it

Soccerking....
as I've stated...Don't give out suspect advice,on a subject you know nothing about....Thats all!
You can state any opinion you want...but when it lacks any truth or scientific basis,or even real world experience (such as actually trying a product before you bash it) then expect the rest of us to call you on it.
 
BTW I don't wear "panties"...Nor do I ****and whine when somebody calls me out for being full of sh!t....HaHaHa...
 
Also...your past posts indicate that you are blindly anti=PH...which is your perogative.
But recieving PH supplementation advice from you is the equivalent of getting advice on the benefits of sobriety from NIC....LOL

Current Stack: HDROL,Celltech,Superpump 250, Glutamine,Beta alanine,Whey protein.

ORIGINAL: bulkingup

Soccerking....
as I've stated...Don't give out suspect advice,on a subject you know nothing about....Thats all!
You can state any opinion you want...but when it lacks any truth or scientific basis,or even real world experience (such as actually trying a product before you bash it) then expect the rest of us to call you on it.

BTW I don't wear "panties"...Nor do I ****and whine when somebody calls me out for being full of sh!t....HaHaHa...

Also...your past posts indicate that you are blindly anti=PH...which is your perogative.
But recieving PH supplementation advice from you is the equivalent of getting advice on the benefits of sobriety from NIC....LOL

LOL

Squat max - 275lbs  30/07/09
Bench max - ¿?
Front Squats(atg)- ¿?

ORIGINAL: bulkingup

Soccerking....
as I've stated...Don't give out suspect advice,on a subject you know nothing about....Thats all!
You can state any opinion you want...but when it lacks any truth or scientific basis,or even real world experience (such as actually trying a product before you bash it) then expect the rest of us to call you on it.

BTW I don't wear "panties"...Nor do I ****and whine when somebody calls me out for being full of sh!t....HaHaHa...

Also...your past posts indicate that you are blindly anti=PH...which is your perogative.
But recieving PH supplementation advice from you is the equivalent of getting advice on the benefits of sobriety from NIC....LOL

for the record i am not against PH i am against PH abuse and usage way before they should be aka below 21 as a minimum, once again all i did was state what was in it and said i doubt it would do much at all for a 17 year old, thats all.  Don't read into it farther than that...

edit: and i wasnt bashing it i was saying most likely it wouldnt do much for him...

and im 20 not 17 your not good at reading are you? big differance if you ask me

Age: 20
Weight: 170

STACK:
superpump 250
size on
halodrol liquid gels
plasmaJet NO maximizer
Novadex XT
fish body oils 1000
ripped hardcore fat burner
100% whey protein
super bcaa 2200

ORIGINAL: Mad_X_00

and im 20 not 17 your not good at reading are you? big differance if you ask me

lol you are still too young, but you knew that right?

you may think im to young but really i dont care end of story cause it really makes a big difference when i turn 21 huh?

Age: 20
Weight: 170

STACK:
superpump 250
size on
halodrol liquid gels
plasmaJet NO maximizer
Novadex XT
fish body oils 1000
ripped hardcore fat burner
100% whey protein
super bcaa 2200

ORIGINAL: Mad_X_00

ORIGINAL: dirty billy goat

lookin for advice to tone this up a bit any ideas...diet is mainly protein maybe more cardio or abd with weight??? suggestions?

Looks like your all set.
Just make sure you eat 100% clean cut diet. cut SOME carbs out. Protein more UP and do cardio !
If you drop weight to fast then your overdoing it.

thank you ive havnt dropped weight at all but i am seein myself tone more and more each day....is it a good idea to bulk up then cut??? which would be better for me

i'd say bulk up then cut

You are more then entitled to do whatever you wish with your body. The point people are trying to make is your young, your body is still roaring with hormones and testosterone you really dont need anything besides a multi, and basic supplements.

try no to get offended by it, people just care.

ORIGINAL: Mad_X_00

you may think im to young but really i dont care end of story cause it really makes a big difference when i turn 21 huh?

6'3"  @213

Squat 1x20x275

press:200, Deadlift:475, Bench:300, P.clean:235, Squat:385

"The only failure that is final is to stop trying to improve"

ORIGINAL: Mad_X_00

you may think im to young but really i dont care end of story cause it really makes a big difference when i turn 21 huh?

Actually it does make a very significant difference.  Every 2737 days, or 7 1/2 years, your body goes through physical, hormonal, and mental changes.  At 20, you could be raging with hormones, and 22 you might not be.

That's all average though, hormone changes take place every 7-8 years.

Also, saying you don't care just makes you look ignorant.  We're only trying to help you.

President of the Emancipation Detoxification. DBB's oldest forum group, punching baby seals since 2/12/08

ORIGINAL: Yet

ORIGINAL: Mad_X_00

you may think im to young but really i dont care end of story cause it really makes a big difference when i turn 21 huh?

Actually it does make a very significant difference.  Every 2737 days, or 7 1/2 years, your body goes through physical, hormonal, and mental changes.  At 20, you could be raging with hormones, and 22 you might not be.

That's all average though, hormone changes take place every 7-8 years.

Also, saying you don't care just makes you look ignorant.  We're only trying to help you.

 
 
did you even read anything in here? i think i got help from maybe 3 ppl and they said bulk up then cut other than that its ppl arguing about my stack obviously my stack is controversial and gets mixed opinions i got that part

Age: 20
Weight: 170

STACK:
superpump 250
size on
halodrol liquid gels
plasmaJet NO maximizer
Novadex XT
fish body oils 1000
ripped hardcore fat burner
100% whey protein
super bcaa 2200

Here is my advice.
 
Eat eat eat eat eat, Throw some carbo max in there to boost the carbs throw some muscle milk or what ever in there to boost the protein. Go above and beyond your normal calorie intake but do it steady. 
 
Anyways seems pretty simple to me, don't nuke it    It's all about the food baby!! Yeahhh! :)

ORIGINAL: IBendBarbells

Here is my advice.

Eat eat eat eat eat, Throw some carbo max in there to boost the carbs throw some muscle milk or what ever in there to boost the protein. Go above and beyond your normal calorie intake but do it steady. 

Anyways seems pretty simple to me, don't nuke it    It's all about the food baby!! Yeahhh! :)

Exactly. You're putting way to much thought into this (usually I wouldn't say that, most people don't put enough thought into what they are doing), keep it simple. Eat big, but clean, get rest, lift hard, and stay dedicated.

Every Saint has a Past. Every Sinner has a Future.

It seems so odd to me how honesty is honestly the rarest thing upon us. Honestly, it's astonishing.