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secretagain? testabolin? - 7/3/2003 5:52:18 PM
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jstpettit007
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Hello:
I am new here, a 20 year old male. I' m 5' 11, 170, and looking to gain some muscle. I work out/train etc... and I am currently taking whey protein, but I am not getting the results I am looking for (i know diet is key and i probably need to be eating more but I would like a supplement to help none the less) I have taken prolab creatine in the past but I would like to try something different.
Has anybody here had any experience or know much about these products....
secretagain? testabolin?.........I am thinking of taking secretagain, testabolin has too many warnings and side effects but I would like to here some results on these products.
I am also thinking of trying a different creatine, creactive, has anybody here tried this?
Any information would be great.
thanks
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RE: secretagain? testabolin? - 7/3/2003 6:24:33 PM
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Marc David
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There are alot more cost effective and better options out there. I haven' t hear any one' s results from Iforce either. Do a search for 1-test, 4-ad (the star makes it 4 letters), and transdermal. This should help you make up your mind on what some better and more cost effective options are.
About a month ago I went looking on all the forums for info on this subject. Could not find anything positive. Mostly comments about cheaper and better more proven alternatives.
If you don' t have a lot of experience with Prohormones.. you may want to totally read this section (Prohormone forum) first. Then branch out. But it seems like a really good beginner stack is 1-AD and 4-AD. 4-6 weeks max. Reasonably priced and there' s tons of posts on the net about how people have seen results with these 2 pro-hormones.
Also, how long have you been training, and is your diet correct?
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RE: secretagain? testabolin? - 7/3/2003 6:38:41 PM
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jstpettit007
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I have been training on and off since highschool, playing sports makes lifting an on and off thing sometimes.
I gained about 8 pounds last year when I had been working out consistently but that was a combination of eating lots, working out, taking creatine, and probably a growth spurt.
Anyways, the last 3 months I have been lifting and running consistently. My weight flucuates from 170 to 176 or so depending on how much I eat but I would like to gain about 10 solid pounds of muscle.
I am checking out other posts right now to see what else I should be doing in terms of diet. Oh yea, I am a college student so it is hard to eat really well with the $$ being used for school.
I have to say that my father recetly had prostate cancer removed so I am trying to stay away from products that effect the prostate, I am going to read up on 1-test, 4-ad products.
Thanks for the help
Chris
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RE: secretagain? testabolin? - 7/3/2003 6:47:59 PM
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Marc David
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Sorry to hear that about your father. I' ve seen nothing about prohormones and prostate issues.
But.. I suggest reading the posts in this forum. There are some good links and articles. And Twin Peak is the resident " guest" expert. He' s off right now.. but if you can hold on.. he' ll be back and he can answer your questions with much more expertise.
Do some searching on 1-AD and 4-AD. Seems like a very popular combination.
I personally think prohormones do more for you in your 30' s but I' ve been told you can benefit as early as 19.
These type of supplements are not like protein and creatine. You really need to do your research. Not only to be safe but to understand how to get the most benefits and avoid the newbie mistakes. I would bet most people don' t fully read and understand what these supplements do.
I was 178 in April of 2003.. after posting a bulk diet in the Nutrition forum, and following it consistently.. I' m now 190lbs and still only 16% bodyfat.
And that was just diet. And I' m an ectomorph.
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RE: secretagain? testabolin? - 7/3/2003 7:15:27 PM
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jstpettit007
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Thanks for the help.
I am also an ectomorph, haha, 5' 11 170 makes it obvious. I have a low body fat, last time it was tested around a year ago it was at 7%....Gaining weight is not easy . Where can I look at the bulk nutrition plan you used to gain weight?
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RE: secretagain? testabolin? - 7/3/2003 7:47:17 PM
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quote:
Where can I look at the bulk nutrition plan you used to gain weight?
A Sample Bulking Plan
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