best cardio exercise to burn fat?

RE: best cardio exercise to burn fat? (meat hed)

Mon, 23 May 2005 00:26:04 GMT

hey i was a state swimmer during school years and i think that swimming is the best cardio for upper body strength and v shaped abs aha... swimming is probably only good for losing fat if you know how to train... swimming laps up and down at your own pace swimming is does very little thats normally how old men swim....... you should probably figure out a HIT training method for the water... just make sure you do more fast laps than slow.. and when you get that feeling that your gonna drown that means your burning fat =) not really but im sure its good for you..that s pretty much what you looked for each session..

kick boxing looks awesome for toning and losing fat.. and it would be a great way to meet decent looking girls.

RE: best cardio exercise to burn fat? (silascn)

Sun, 22 May 2005 12:10:22 GMT

swimming is a good cardio for begginers or intermediates, or people who need a low impact exercise. Lynx100 I never considered this a personal argument I just like hearing your ideas. I appologize for if I came off in a negative way.

RE: best cardio exercise to burn fat? (3DAYS2GLORY)

Sat, 21 May 2005 22:06:22 GMT

Kickboxing is awesome for cardio and overall toning.

RE: best cardio exercise to burn fat? (Marc David)

Sat, 21 May 2005 21:09:44 GMT

Swimming: Do you recommend swimming for cardio?

RE: best cardio exercise to burn fat? (Lynx100)

Sat, 21 May 2005 20:39:39 GMT

when you are swimming your body is cooled down do to the constant cool water surrounding your body, therefore it takes more time to raise your body temp and hence your are burning less calories.

I think you have it backwards here. True, your body is cooled down by the surrounding water. BUT what this does is promote thermogenesis (production of heat) so the body can maintain its core temperature at around 37 degrees celcius. This is the physiological process behind shiverying. In order to produce heat, your body has to burn energy. While the amount of energy burnt isnt that great (because we dont swim in ice-cold water), the calories burnt in this process are negligible. Its the exact same situation as drinking cold water. To maintain core temp, heat is produced and energy is used up but the amount of energy is so small that it is hardly worth counting.

Silascn, I can sit here all day and argue with you about the physiology of the body's heat mechanisms but its not my intention to make this into a personal argument so im sorry if ive come across that way. I just love a good intellectual debate.

At the end of the day, I dont think either of us are going to disagree that running and swimming are both great cardio exercises.

RE: best cardio exercise to burn fat? (silascn)

Sat, 21 May 2005 20:10:38 GMT

I agree with what most of what u have said, and the rest I really don't want to debate any longer in this forum, but plz think about this and tell me your ideas because I do find it interesting dissagreaing with you and seeing what you have to say.

"The calorie is mainly used in nutrition and equals the amount of heat necessary to raise the temperature of one gram of water by 1 degree Celsius, at a pressure of 1 atm. This amount of heat depends somewhat on the initial temperature of the water, which results in various different units sharing the name of "calorie" but having slightly different energy values. It is approximately equal to 4.186 J."
from:http://www.discussbodybuilding.com/best_cardio_exercise_to_burn_fat%3f/m_62342/tm.htm
when you are swimming your body is cooled down do to the constant cool water surrounding your body, therefore it takes more time to raise your body temp and hence your are burning less calories.

RE: best cardio exercise to burn fat? (Lynx100)

Sat, 21 May 2005 17:30:45 GMT

Energy is not directly connected to calories, although they are very closely related.

What are you smoking??? thats what calories are! a measure of energy expenditure! Here - just to prove im not lying, a definition from a exercise physiology dictionary: A calorie refers to a (non-SI) unit of energy.

In order for a muscle to adapt doesn't it have to break down slightly and rebuild wich would mean "eccentric/concentric" resistence would have to take place

Sorry this was my typing mistake. I was meant to say 'adaptive' resistence vs 'Hypertrophic eccentric/concentric' resistence. And there is a difference between the two.

RE: best cardio exercise to burn fat? (silascn)

Sat, 21 May 2005 13:47:23 GMT

exerting more energy does not mean more weight lost

?? Ofcourse it does. Thats the whole point of cardio in weight loss is to burn as much calories (energy) to create a negative energy balance.

In weight lifting you can exert a great amount of energy, but with circute training you might exert less energy but still see better results. Energy is not directly connected to calories, although they are very closely related.

True but the advantages of lower impact for people who are obese, over-pronate and have increased laxity in the connective tissue in their joints far outweight the risks of injury with long-term or long-distance running.

I agree with that

great amount of energy is exerted when you are pushing foward in the water, which is more of a muscle builder than an actual cardio

Thats not true. Swimming is just as efficient as jogging in training for optimal VO2 max. Although swimmer do have stronger upper bodies, the muscle gained is due to 'adaptive' resistance as opposed to 'eccentric/concentric' resistence.

It tends to be more of a muscle builder than walking, mainly because peoples legs are normally strong to fit there weight. In order for a muscle to adapt doesn't it have to break down slightly and rebuild wich would mean "eccentric/concentric" resistence would have to take place.

Pchoice, what it comes down to when losing weight is simple. Whatever type of cardio you chooe to do, in order to lose weight, Expenditure of energy should be more than energy intake every day thus creating a negative energy balance.

RE: best cardio exercise to burn fat? (Lynx100)

Sat, 21 May 2005 08:03:45 GMT

exerting more energy does not mean more weight lost

?? Ofcourse it does. Thats the whole point of cardio in weight loss is to burn as much calories (energy) to create a negative energy balance.

As far as low impact, in order to benifit the same cardio advantage you get from running, you would have to pedal a much longer distance due to the mechanical advantage.

True but the advantages of lower impact for people who are obese, over-pronate and have increased laxity in the connective tissue in their joints far outweight the risks of injury with long-term or long-distance running.

great amount of energy is exerted when you are pushing foward in the water, which is more of a muscle builder than an actual cardio

Thats not true. Swimming is just as efficient as jogging in training for optimal VO2 max. Although swimmer do have stronger upper bodies, the muscle gained is due to 'adaptive' resistance as opposed to 'eccentric/concentric' resistence.

Pchoice, what it comes down to when losing weight is simple. Whatever type of cardio you choose to do, in order to lose weight, Expenditure of energy should be more than energy intake every day thus creating a negative energy balance.

RE: best cardio exercise to burn fat? (silascn)

Sat, 21 May 2005 07:30:26 GMT

I agree on the upper body part of what you have said and with building muscle, but exerting more energy does not mean more weight lost. As far as low impact, in order to benifit the same cardio advantage you get from running, you would have to pedal a much longer distance due to the mechanical advantage. The main reason it seems to me you spend more energy swimming than jogging is simple, a great amount of energy is exerted when you are pushing foward in the water, which is more of a muscle builder than an actual cardio and due to the water friction in order to go faster it requires you to push harder wich in turns only makes it more of a muscle stimuli than a cardio worker.

sorry pchoice for getting off track, in order to lose weight do something that you can do for a least thirty minutes, wether it be walking, cycling, jogging, or swimming. Keep at a good constant pace and make sure you have a good breathing pattern. The harder the activity is usually the more cardio you get, not always though, for instance jogging is more benifical than walking. To really trim off the weight eat healthy in joint with the cardio. Good luck.

RE: best cardio exercise to burn fat? (Lynx100)

Fri, 20 May 2005 19:48:25 GMT

"Body weight, skill, pace, fitness level, and type of activity each play a part in equating exercise programs. As far as muscular conditioning is concerned, running is almost totally a lower body conditioner, whereas, swimming is mainly an upper body conditioner.

In the free-style (crawl) stroke, at least 75% of the swimmer's propulsive force comes from the arms. The main purpose for kicking one's feet is to raise the legs and keep the body horizontal in the water, thereby reducing drag. In general, the energy used to swim a given distance is about four times more than that used to run the same distance. This is because the swimmer must expend some energy to stay on top of the water and considerable energy to overcome the drag forces created by the body moving through the water.

Therefore, as a rule of thumb, for every mile you swim, you would have to run four miles. In terms of muscular conditioning, you are primarily strengthening your arms and shoulders when swimming, runnins is primarily strengthening the legs. "

Dr. P.J Bird PhD, University of Florida, Health and Human Performance.

When combing regular cardiovascular activity with an intense weights program, it would be wiser to choose a lower impact options such as cycling, rowing or swimming.

RE: best cardio exercise to burn fat? (silascn)

Fri, 20 May 2005 18:39:03 GMT

To my understanding, when you swim the water tends to cool down the body which in turn slows the fat burning rate. As far as the muscle muscle build, swimming would create more upper body muscle, but other wise I have trained by jogging and by swimming, and i only increased my leg strength signifactly when jogging. I don't remember where i heard the swimming doesn't burn as much calories, but I have always had better luck with jogging.

RE: best cardio exercise to burn fat? (Lynx100)

Fri, 20 May 2005 17:55:49 GMT

To what I understand swimming burns less fat and builds less muscel

where did you get that impression from?

RE: best cardio exercise to burn fat? (silascn)

Fri, 20 May 2005 15:26:40 GMT

To what I understand swimming burns less fat and builds less muscel, although yes it is less impact. It is good for increasing your maximum oxygen intake though.

Ultimatly for trimming up, a fast pace jog is still the king.

RE: best cardio exercise to burn fat? (Lynx100)

Thu, 19 May 2005 15:37:29 GMT

swimming. It tops running, rowing, cycling.

No impact pressure on your joints + gives you the V-shape that every male desires.