http://www.discussbodybuilding.com/(c) DiscussBodybuilding.com30 mine dont burn i can just feel them http://www.discussbodybuilding.com/fb.ashx?m=94753Sat, 17 Dec 2005 21:30:36 GMT i tried doing inclined flies, and my chest exploded with growth just because it was a change in my workout http://www.discussbodybuilding.com/fb.ashx?m=55462Sat, 16 Apr 2005 13:03:55 GMT no matter how much u can bench press it dosnt matter, te only way u can get a bigger chest is to keep doin the weight u can then ull be able to go up more weight after then more then more. i started about 2 months ago mabey and i weighed 145 and could bench 165 on the flat benh and 165 on the decline now i weigh 150 and can bench 185 on the flat and 210 on the decline http://www.discussbodybuilding.com/fb.ashx?m=55454Sat, 16 Apr 2005 10:56:26 GMT after usually 5/7 reps my arms to into like seizuring spasms. But I still can do them, not fluid motion, but last rep i do not beleive should be fluid motion http://www.discussbodybuilding.com/fb.ashx?m=53342Thu, 07 Apr 2005 08:12:06 GMT <blockquote class="quote"><i></i><br> cpl, are you sure you should stop when your arms start shaking? </blockquote> <br> Well, it's not proper form- If something's shaking, it's an indication that something's not able to handle the weight with proper form- If I can't perform a rep with a nice fluid motion, no shakes, no body contortion- I stop, set's over. And I still see gains. http://www.discussbodybuilding.com/fb.ashx?m=53224Wed, 06 Apr 2005 19:00:25 GMT i have the same prob u cant fell it so i get on the fly machine and put it to like 100 and get a friend to help u get both thingys in front of u and do small in and out motions like open it like 4 -5 inchs and bring it back in i garentee ull feel it after so come sets of that http://www.discussbodybuilding.com/fb.ashx?m=53196Wed, 06 Apr 2005 17:05:27 GMT no matter what i bench my arms are shakey, but everything else is stable http://www.discussbodybuilding.com/fb.ashx?m=50631Mon, 28 Mar 2005 23:51:58 GMT cpl, are you sure you should stop when your arms start shaking? Whenever I bench heavy my arms shake, but everything else stays still. I've had no injuries either. http://www.discussbodybuilding.com/fb.ashx?m=50625Mon, 28 Mar 2005 22:25:39 GMT <blockquote class="quote"><i></i><br>Go untill positive failure meaning don't keep going unless you can properly complete the rep with correct form</blockquote> <br> This is very important- Shaneo, you mentioned the burn, and to tell the truth that has nothing to do with making progress. When Trick2 mentioned correct form, he means it- As soon as your arms start to move out of position, get shaky, if you feel your back trying to squirm underneath you, or your shoulders try to slide out of place- Put the weight down, you're done with that set. Proper form is proper form, don't deviate from it, and stop when you can't keep going with proper form. That's how a set's done right, and that's the best way to great gains with minimal risk of injury- Don't chase after that burning feeling, or the pump- Those things aren't indicative of gains at all. http://www.discussbodybuilding.com/fb.ashx?m=50555Mon, 28 Mar 2005 16:04:04 GMT Thanks alot trick2stroke thats the info I was looking for. Now I realise that I've been doing the opposite I've what I should have done for months. <br> Thanks again <br> Shaneo http://www.discussbodybuilding.com/fb.ashx?m=50530Mon, 28 Mar 2005 14:23:02 GMT It is better to do more weight with fewer reps. Use a weight that you can atleast pump out 4 reps with but no more then 8 per set. Go untill positive failure meaning don't keep going unless you can properly complete the rep with correct form but don't quite if you can do anymore unless your at 8 reps. If you can still pump on or two out then up the weight slightly. http://www.discussbodybuilding.com/fb.ashx?m=50486Mon, 28 Mar 2005 10:55:07 GMT I have same problem, my triceps feels like molten lava before i feel it in my pecs... Maybe i need to work out my tricps more first so they can handle the more weight my chest desires? http://www.discussbodybuilding.com/fb.ashx?m=50392Mon, 28 Mar 2005 00:21:38 GMT Perhaps the word burn wasn't used right, I don't feel tired in my chest at all when I'm doing it or after. I haven't busted out the measuring tape but I'm sure that its around 22 inches. I've been reading this forum all day and other websites and some books on weightlifting I bought and I think I might have found my problem. Alot say do sets of 4-6 or 6-8 reps. Now I was under the impression that the more reps the better, so I've been doing say 50 pounds for 25 reps at a time. Is it better to do more weight with fewer reps or more reps with less weight? http://www.discussbodybuilding.com/fb.ashx?m=50388Sun, 27 Mar 2005 22:56:31 GMT Mine never do they just get pumped and they grow. http://www.discussbodybuilding.com/fb.ashx?m=50379Sun, 27 Mar 2005 21:06:49 GMT Should it actually BURN? http://www.discussbodybuilding.com/fb.ashx?m=50375Sun, 27 Mar 2005 20:36:11 GMT