Is sleep the same benefits at all times?

RE: Is sleep the same benefits at all times? (twistedlink)

Mon, 14 Jul 2008 10:19:05 GMT

Not just that but physiology shouldnt really be teaching about hormones and receptors and controls of such things, thats not physiology, thats molecular biology/biochem .

From my knowledge.....

RE: Is sleep the same benefits at all times? (bulkingup)

Mon, 14 Jul 2008 06:26:26 GMT

ORIGINAL: Acujeremy

Please don't mock me.

I am medically trained, so I have studied this stuff. Not trying to brag, but anyone who takes even basic pysiology learns of this stuff.

Did they misspell the name on the book as well?

RE: Is sleep the same benefits at all times? (Wetdawg)

Sun, 13 Jul 2008 20:39:41 GMT

ORIGINAL: Acujeremy

Please don't mock me.

I am medically trained, so I have studied this stuff. Not trying to brag, but anyone who takes even basic pysiology learns of this stuff.

In Alaska they have SAD. Seasonal Adjustment Disorder which is a type of depression, but not just ,mentally. The body kind of goes into a depressed state when its dark most of the day in the winter. Why is this? It has a lot to do with melatonin and seratonin levels. Soem neurotransmitters and hormones are light or dark dependant.

I'm not going to post studies like a jackass. But to deny our bodies daily and seasonal sycles is just plain ignorant of how th ebody works.

Don't respond with some stupid comment how you stay up late all the time and your still alive. Totally missing the point.

All I was doign was responding to the original question which is does sleep at different times mean anything. It actually 100% does.

Living in the dark is totally different than sleeping during the day. I get a few hours of sunlight each day. I'm walking proof you don't have to sleep at night. 47 years old. I don't get sick. I can run 10 miles if needed. I bench near my body weight. I even look younger by staying out of the sun. I have not slept at night like a normal person since 1980. Three more years it will be 30 years. What gives?

WD

RE: Is sleep the same benefits at all times? (twistedlink)

Thu, 10 Jul 2008 00:42:35 GMT

I thought there was quite substantial evidence that Humans are bi-phase sleepers?

Meaning we should sleep more than once, like 2 or 3 little naps, sets of 2 hours or 3 hours...??

I get how our brains responds to lack of sunlight and it means our bodies chemical reactions are ready for sleep, i DO get that acujeremy, i know that too, im not medically trained, but i do have knowledge of this stuff.

What im simply trying to say is your body isnt simply going to ignore your sleeping just because its daytime, itl just take the body a little longer in a "transition" phase as it were to realise its sleeping and start its usual shi-bang.

Theres also curtains for the day, seriously you get the right curtains, cover up the entire window, pretty much hardly any light comes through anyway.

RE: Is sleep the same benefits at all times? (Acujeremy)

Wed, 09 Jul 2008 23:06:36 GMT

Please don't mock me.

I am medically trained, so I have studied this stuff. Not trying to brag, but anyone who takes even basic pysiology learns of this stuff.

In Alaska they have SAD. Seasonal Adjustment Disorder which is a type of depression, but not just ,mentally. The body kind of goes into a depressed state when its dark most of the day in the winter. Why is this? It has a lot to do with melatonin and seratonin levels. Soem neurotransmitters and hormones are light or dark dependant.

I'm not going to post studies like a jackass. But to deny our bodies daily and seasonal sycles is just plain ignorant of how th ebody works.

Don't respond with some stupid comment how you stay up late all the time and your still alive. Totally missing the point.

All I was doign was responding to the original question which is does sleep at different times mean anything. It actually 100% does.

RE: Is sleep the same benefits at all times? (Wetdawg)

Wed, 09 Jul 2008 20:13:25 GMT

ORIGINAL: Acujeremy

Well whatever. Some people smoke till 95 and have no health problems. Doesn't mean smoking is not unhealthy. Study basic physiology of the body's circadium rhythms. It isn't healthy to go to sleep at 5 AM and wake up at 2 PM, and do this everyday. It just isn't healthy. It tweaks you out a bit. If you do it sometimes you can bounce back. If this is your regular routine, it just isn't healthy. But like rippedchick said, there are other factors involved liek diet and exercise and mental state and such.

So they found these basic rythms In a study? A study useing people? People that woke up when the Sun came up? Or just night people? Hmmmmmm. I just need to know when it all catches up to me, so I can get my Doctor on retainer for just such a thing.

WD

RE: Is sleep the same benefits at all times? (Acujeremy)

Wed, 09 Jul 2008 20:07:47 GMT

Well whatever. Some people smoke till 95 and have no health problems. Doesn't mean smoking is not unhealthy. Study basic physiology of the body's circadium rhythms. It isn't healthy to go to sleep at 5 AM and wake up at 2 PM, and do this everyday. It just isn't healthy. It tweaks you out a bit. If you do it sometimes you can bounce back. If this is your regular routine, it just isn't healthy. But like rippedchick said, there are other factors involved liek diet and exercise and mental state and such.

RE: Is sleep the same benefits at all times? (Wetdawg)

Wed, 09 Jul 2008 18:37:03 GMT

ORIGINAL: Acujeremy

ORIGINAL: twistedlink

sleep is sleep, are your cells repair hormones equipped with watches going "holy **** its 1pm, i aint doin this, this countries going downhill man"

....No?

thought so.

You're dead wrong, mate! That is entirely untrue. Our body's totally respons better when sleep is done at the appropriate time. Seratonin and Melatonin levels adjust to darkness and certain times of the day. Just liek women have a biological clock, so do men. Your body does know the time. Not the number like its 2 AM or 3 AM, but it knows the general cycle of a da. The most intense energy is at noon and the lowest point is midnight.

Is it going to screw up gains at the gym? Once in a while no. I guarantee someone who works graveyard shift every night, will have a lot of health problems later on in life due to screwing up his body's natural cycles.

How late in Life? I need to know. I've been working in the dark since you've been filling your diapers or better. I'm thinking what? 80-90? I'm on the verge of 50 and can run those day people my age over.....Lookout! Like Tommy Boy (the Late Chris Farley) said " I can take a sh*t in a box marked Guaranteed, all your getting is a guaranteed piece of Sh*t. Your body adapts, I'm walking proof.

WD

RE: Is sleep the same benefits at all times? (rippedchick)

Wed, 09 Jul 2008 16:59:36 GMT

ORIGINAL: Acujeremy

ORIGINAL: twistedlink

sleep is sleep, are your cells repair hormones equipped with watches going "holy **** its 1pm, i aint doin this, this countries going downhill man"

....No?

thought so.

You're dead wrong, mate! That is entirely untrue. Our body's totally respons better when sleep is done at the appropriate time. Seratonin and Melatonin levels adjust to darkness and certain times of the day. Just liek women have a biological clock, so do men. Your body does know the time. Not the number like its 2 AM or 3 AM, but it knows the general cycle of a da. The most intense energy is at noon and the lowest point is midnight.

Is it going to screw up gains at the gym? Once in a while no. I guarantee someone who works graveyard shift every night, will have a lot of health problems later on in life due to screwing up his body's natural cycles.

I know that I don't feel like this at all!

I used to work nights bartending so I lifted at odd hours. If you're resting and eating enough, you'll be fine.

RE: Is sleep the same benefits at all times? (Acujeremy)

Wed, 09 Jul 2008 13:47:56 GMT

ORIGINAL: twistedlink

sleep is sleep, are your cells repair hormones equipped with watches going "holy **** its 1pm, i aint doin this, this countries going downhill man"

....No?

thought so.

You're dead wrong, mate! That is entirely untrue. Our body's totally respons better when sleep is done at the appropriate time. Seratonin and Melatonin levels adjust to darkness and certain times of the day. Just liek women have a biological clock, so do men. Your body does know the time. Not the number like its 2 AM or 3 AM, but it knows the general cycle of a da. The most intense energy is at noon and the lowest point is midnight.

Is it going to screw up gains at the gym? Once in a while no. I guarantee someone who works graveyard shift every night, will have a lot of health problems later on in life due to screwing up his body's natural cycles.

RE: Is sleep the same benefits at all times? (MaverickKeepsitReal)

Wed, 09 Jul 2008 11:28:50 GMT

ORIGINAL: RedJeep

It works if you're a boss.

Like me. I piss liquid gold.

RE: Is sleep the same benefits at all times? (NBSFighter)

Wed, 09 Jul 2008 11:17:27 GMT

Ugh, you guys just don't know how to use it. I just found it in 5 seconds flat after reading those complaints

http://www.discussbodybuilding.com/m_397614/mpage_1/tm.htm#397614

BTW I never saw that thread before

RE: Is sleep the same benefits at all times? (RedJeep)

Wed, 09 Jul 2008 11:10:27 GMT

It works if you're a boss.

RE: Is sleep the same benefits at all times? (connelly)

Wed, 09 Jul 2008 10:51:00 GMT

ORIGINAL: Daniel265

there was seriously a thread about this like less then a week ago.

but i cant find it, our search function sucks!

yah i just decided to quit using it it's worthless...

RE: Is sleep the same benefits at all times? (NBSFighter)

Wed, 09 Jul 2008 10:49:31 GMT

ORIGINAL: twistedlink

that whole melatonin thing has got everyones knickers in a twist

Oh twisted, you're so british