Mike Mentzer

RE: Mike Mentzer (Creation)

Tue, 01 Jul 2008 09:56:30 GMT

hehe i wasnt offended you just got the wrong impression, im just a curious person and mike mentzers routine was so out of the ordinary i wanted to know more about it.

RE: Mike Mentzer (thehardway)

Tue, 01 Jul 2008 05:55:12 GMT

ORIGINAL: Creation

I like learning and i read alot but ive been very consistent with my routines and eating alot, as far as using the iforce cycle i wanted to try out a Designer PH for my personal experience. How am i looking for a quick scam changing my routine after 12 weeks omg im looking for a scam.

And yes i do make progress in what i want bulking or cutting.

I didn't say scam, I knew that post would be taken badley. I just... whatever, do what you want....

yeah your current routine looks good, I saw it in your journal.

I just found it odd that 80% of your posts are about supliments, the other 15 % are about weird pro routines, and the other 5% are actually about you lifting weight (that includes your journal).

RE: Mike Mentzer (MaverickKeepsitReal)

Mon, 30 Jun 2008 23:49:20 GMT

ORIGINAL: Creation

here

O sh1t. My bad bro. It just seemed like people had it out to blame you about supplements, but, at 6'2, it is a b1tch to gain. I stand corrected.

RE: Mike Mentzer (Nm0ney34)

Mon, 30 Jun 2008 22:23:39 GMT

I can tell ya first hand gaining and being tall sucks hard core...

RE: Mike Mentzer (Creation)

Mon, 30 Jun 2008 22:02:00 GMT

here

RE: Mike Mentzer (MaverickKeepsitReal)

Mon, 30 Jun 2008 20:12:49 GMT

6'2 word. You should post pics.

RE: Mike Mentzer (Creation)

Mon, 30 Jun 2008 18:07:34 GMT

dang i did not know you know more about me than i do

but im not really a hard gainer im just 6`2.5 so gaining just takes longer

RE: Mike Mentzer (MaverickKeepsitReal)

Mon, 30 Jun 2008 17:59:16 GMT

That's what it appears. He seems to be a hardgainer.

RE: Mike Mentzer (David1991)

Mon, 30 Jun 2008 17:31:22 GMT

oh so a 3 day a week upper/lower split basically

RE: Mike Mentzer (Creation)

Mon, 30 Jun 2008 17:23:00 GMT

day A)

Upper Body

Day B)

Squats// Sled Leg press
Romanian Deadlfits
Clean and Press

Day C)

low intensity Cardio - moderate cardio + abs + calves

mon - A
tues - C
wed - B
thurs - C
fri - A
sat - optional C day
sun - off
mon - B
tues - c
wed - A

etc.

RE: Mike Mentzer (David1991)

Mon, 30 Jun 2008 17:09:45 GMT

ORIGINAL: Creation

and for the record my routine was given to me by a natural bodybuilder and it was the routine he used when starting out.

what is it?

RE: Mike Mentzer (Creation)

Mon, 30 Jun 2008 16:55:10 GMT

and for the record my routine was given to me by a natural bodybuilder and it was the routine he used when starting out.

RE: Mike Mentzer (Creation)

Mon, 30 Jun 2008 16:49:44 GMT

I like learning and i read alot but ive been very consistent with my routines and eating alot, as far as using the iforce cycle i wanted to try out a Designer PH for my personal experience. How am i looking for a quick scam changing my routine after 12 weeks omg im looking for a scam.

And yes i do make progress in what i want bulking or cutting.

RE: Mike Mentzer (David1991)

Mon, 30 Jun 2008 15:46:26 GMT

i agree with u marc that he definitely put forth a lot of effort on the lifts but i'm not sure what you mean by most of us not being able to put forth the intensity.

say he does something like db bench to absolute failure, goes to flyes to absolute failure, and then dips to absolute failure..u dont think u could do that? if u just take a set until you absolutely cant do another rep then there u go, i've done that before with supersets a lot and some giant sets and im sure u have too. not to sound macho or anything lol i just mean that it seems most could, it would just take will power and i could see people getting burnt out quickly.

RE: Mike Mentzer (Marc David)

Mon, 30 Jun 2008 15:34:48 GMT

The thing is.. with some of these early HIT workouts.. you look at Mike Mentzer and think..

I can do that!

But you fail to realize that nobody I personally have witness in any gym, including myself.. has ever trained as hard as Mike Mentzer appears to have trained.

His system worked for him. That's all that truly matters.

If you even wanted to train like Mike, you've need to put forth the effort. I don't honestly think most of us are capable of truly taking a set to absolute, mind-blowing failure. Momentary muscular failure or positive failure with a buddy helping on a rep...

Sure. But 100% complete effort to 100% complete failure?

I experimented with that 1 set to failure training. I never put forth the true effort necessary. I just didn't feel up to it, I didn't have a spotter and it wasn't my style.

Many newer programs and ones after took those ideas and adapted them 9 ways to Sunday. Everything works to a degree for everybody. But how well it works for you depends on several factors.

One of which is intensity. Mike had a unique style.

Simply following his routine is not enough. You'd need to understand the intensity the Mike put forth. It makes total sense he could or would only train that way with long periods of a body part layoff. It's not possible to do what he did and come back a day and half later and repeat. If you could, then you didn't put forth the effort he did.

I've read a lot of his stuff along with Daren, Boyer Coe.. etc. Those guys trained at a level you just don't see a lot. Pure, focused energy. There are people who can and do, but it's rare and infrequent.

Most of us tend to workout more frequently at a lower overall intensity so that we can repeat the process and still chit chat in the gym.

Nobody can argue that Mike's style worked for Mike. He found what built him a massive physique and he stuck to it. That's how we all should work. Striving to find our ideals for our own body types and applying the fundamentals we've learned over time to our situations.