South Beach?

RE: South Beach? (GermyBoy)

Sat, 08 Jan 2005 19:13:20 GMT

Hey, I'm very American, it's just what I see everyday. Even my mother bought a dog training book the other day, put it on the bookshelf and then starting training the dogs her way.

99% may be a tad high though, it might be as low as 95%.

MDA: Good point, 99% of people like to take the easy way out if it presents itself.

ORIGINAL: cpl

but of the 99% of Americans, you buy a book to lose weight and "follow it" (not reading it, using techniques you've HEARD *might* work), you fail and/or gain weight. Then you have the "right" to complain about it all day long because another diet failed you because you were eating all the meat you wanted and gained weight. It's not the diet that failed (most likely), but you aren't smart enough to follow instructions.

You know, I'm not even an American- But I do live here. What's with the anti-American sentiment, germyboy? Don't you think that calling 99 percent of the American population a bunch of stupid spoiled whiners is a little harsh, especially when you're getting so much information from a site that's U.S. based with plenty of members hailing from the U.S.? Come on man, every nation has people that don't paint a very nice picture of the general population, and every nation hates their morons because they stick out so much and give the rest of the place a bad name- I'll admit that the stereotypical American is not a pretty picture, but none of the world's stereotypes are- And none of them represent the majority of their nation's population, they just stick out a hell of a lot more. You seem pretty intelligent, you should know this. Bash other countries elsewhere please, this isn't even the out of bounds forum- And if you do decide to do so there, don't be surprised if others make general assumptions about your country of origin, even though you might know they're not true- It's exactly the same thing you just did, and come to think about it, that thread will most likely get deleted.

RE: South Beach? (Marc David)

Sat, 08 Jan 2005 11:21:59 GMT

I don't think the Atkins diet will work long term. That truly is a diet. Not a recommended style of living. Where the South Beach diet is more realistic and healthier.

I didn't take the anti-American statement the wrong way. I just read it was 99% of people who buy those books don't follow them and then complain how nothing works.

Although to make the statment more true.. just erase Amercians becuase you honestly cannot say that other countries buy those books and lose the weight and never have problems.

It would be more like 99% of people in general.

RE: South Beach? (cpl)

Sat, 08 Jan 2005 10:59:23 GMT

but of the 99% of Americans, you buy a book to lose weight and "follow it" (not reading it, using techniques you've HEARD *might* work), you fail and/or gain weight. Then you have the "right" to complain about it all day long because another diet failed you because you were eating all the meat you wanted and gained weight. It's not the diet that failed (most likely), but you aren't smart enough to follow instructions.

You know, I'm not even an American- But I do live here. What's with the anti-American sentiment, germyboy? Don't you think that calling 99 percent of the American population a bunch of stupid spoiled whiners is a little harsh, especially when you're getting so much information from a site that's U.S. based with plenty of members hailing from the U.S.? Come on man, every nation has people that don't paint a very nice picture of the general population, and every nation hates their morons because they stick out so much and give the rest of the place a bad name- I'll admit that the stereotypical American is not a pretty picture, but none of the world's stereotypes are- And none of them represent the majority of their nation's population, they just stick out a hell of a lot more. You seem pretty intelligent, you should know this. Bash other countries elsewhere please, this isn't even the out of bounds forum- And if you do decide to do so there, don't be surprised if others make general assumptions about your country of origin, even though you might know they're not true- It's exactly the same thing you just did, and come to think about it, that thread will most likely get deleted.

RE: South Beach? (GermyBoy)

Sat, 08 Jan 2005 06:12:54 GMT

I would agree with you on your points 100%. What people don't realize is that when you buy a book to lose weight, you actually need to read it and understand the material before you're going to be successful.

I'm not sure where everyone that reads this forum is located, but of the 99% of Americans, you buy a book to lose weight and "follow it" (not reading it, using techniques you've HEARD *might* work), you fail and/or gain weight. Then you have the "right" to complain about it all day long because another diet failed you because you were eating all the meat you wanted and gained weight. It's not the diet that failed (most likely), but you aren't smart enough to follow instructions.

I'm going to focus on Atkins here since it's the most controversial of the ones I've read, but in the book he says directly to the reader, this is not a diet, this is not a 2 month on 10 month off plan to eat, this is a WAY OF EATING. If you are going to end up changing the way you eat for a few weeks to lose some pounds on one of these low-carb diets, you should end up following the practices for life.

The high protein way of eating shouldn't be that hard for the bodybuilders since you get to eat all the beef and chicken you want which is high in protein (steak can be high in fat also), things are you allowed virtually unlimited amounts of. Arnold was using these tricks to cut all the weight back in his glory days (since juice can only help so much).

Eat right (whatever "right" means for you) and exercise and you are doing the best you can.

ORIGINAL: mda1125

I've never tried any of the diets except the eating plans and nutrition stuff I learned in Tom's book.

But the South Beach Diet is pretty popular because after the 1st two weeks, it's not really a diet as much as it is a style of living.

It's just sensible eating in the end. No elimination of carbs, proteins and such. It tries to eliminate or reduce refined carbs and such.

Basically just good nutrition.

That was my take on it. It was not some crazy fad diet but a nutrition plan <just healthy eating really> that you can follow for life.

I pretty much hate the word "diet" That only means you are doing something for a limited time to lose weight and then it's back to bad eating. That sort of sucks.

RE: South Beach? (Marc David)

Thu, 06 Jan 2005 09:05:15 GMT

I've never tried any of the diets except the eating plans and nutrition stuff I learned in Tom's book.

But the South Beach Diet is pretty popular because after the 1st two weeks, it's not really a diet as much as it is a style of living.

It's just sensible eating in the end. No elimination of carbs, proteins and such. It tries to eliminate or reduce refined carbs and such.

Basically just good nutrition.

That was my take on it. It was not some crazy fad diet but a nutrition plan <just healthy eating really> that you can follow for life.

I pretty much hate the word "diet" That only means you are doing something for a limited time to lose weight and then it's back to bad eating. That sort of sucks.

South Beach? (Pita)

Thu, 06 Jan 2005 08:22:09 GMT

Has anyone tried this or know of anyone who has?
I read a review on all the current diets, and this one rated the best for chances of successful, long term weight loss.
Not surprising, Atkins rated toward the bottom stating that weight loss is possible in the short term, but it's a very difficult "Diet" to keep up.
Let me know......