Key Ingredients....

RE: Key Ingredients.... (danmirage)

Sat, 12 Jan 2008 17:24:54 GMT

There is still not evidence to that effect in recent studies.

The findings I have read are conflicting at best with very little positive effect but more negative effect for immediate training after C intake.

I question the way those studies were done, but it bears keeping in mind.

C is water soluble acid. During training we want to avoid acidic conditions to stay anabolic.

The body will want to neutralize the acid.

RE: Key Ingredients.... (RollingStone)

Sat, 12 Jan 2008 14:17:03 GMT

ive read that taking a gram of vitamin c about an hour before workout can slightly prevent catabolism.

RE: Key Ingredients.... (danmirage)

Sat, 12 Jan 2008 14:08:02 GMT

I assume you are going to bulk?

Always state your goal with your question.

Food.

Honest.
Get the diet dialed in first!

Multivitamin? YES! As important as everything below.

Creatine Pyruvate- I prefer Monohydrate and proven effectiveness with value (3-5g daily)
AAKG - Do not take near training, take 2 hours before bed or some time when you have an empty stomach for 90 minutes before or after a meal and not within 4 hours of training. 4-6 grams/day is the minimum effective dose.
Caffeine - No. It is a stim and generally anti-anabolic. save it for cutting.
citrulline malate - with the AAKG (200-1000 mg)
taurine - Why? You get plenty in your diet generally.
Vitamin B6 - near meals (50 mg)(more is ok)
Vitamin B12 - near meals (50 mg)(more is ok)
Vitamin C - OK not around training specifically but spread through the day is ok. 500 mg (more is ok)
Beta Alanine - OK From 3 to 6 grams a day in 400 to 800 mg split doses throughout the day or in a timed release form.
BCAA - OK. Pre / during and even post workout - dose? 1/4 tsp (1.25 g) per 35-40 pounds

L-Arganine (4-6 grams) works even more powerfully when L-Citrulline (200-1000g), Vit C (500mg), Vit E (200iu), Folic Acid (400 - 800 mcg) and Alpha Lipoic Acid (10mg) per day are taken as well. Most of this is covered in your multivitamin or antioxidant.

Key Ingredients.... (egsbike)

Sat, 12 Jan 2008 07:46:42 GMT

i thought that i would ask you since you know alot about this sort of stuff.
i am making a preworkout supplement of my own so far these are what i am going to include

Creatine Pyruvate
AAKG
Caffeine
citrulline malate
taurine
Vitamin B6
Vitamin B12
Vitamin C
Beta Alanine
BCAA

am i missing anything and what ammounts should i take of each. i weight 168lbs