Liquid Masterdrol

RE: Liquid Masterdrol (odw777)

Wed, 11 Jul 2007 19:25:10 GMT

Exactly just how hepatoxic are some of these methylated phs btw? I mean how do you rate the toxicity in terms of the products? M1t was the worst? I was a little taken back by some logs saying epistane is very toxic. Other people in different logs experiencing liver/kidney pain, pissing blood, eyes turning yellow and whatever.
I think that's really something to take into account. I'd really not want to experience any of that sh1t sounds hell of a lot worse then just your nuts shrinking.

Btw IBB you said you got great results with an nha stack? Which one?

RE: Liquid Masterdrol (VaughnTrue)

Wed, 11 Jul 2007 19:17:00 GMT

SD is illegal does that count?... Just wondering

sd was banned for sale by AX...it is still completely LEGAL to sell by other companies.

PLENTY of legal clones out there that are 100% real.

RE: Liquid Masterdrol (IBendBarbells)

Tue, 10 Jul 2007 14:50:08 GMT

ORIGINAL: rippedchick

ORIGINAL: IBendBarbells

ORIGINAL: rippedchick

There's a fine line between prohormone talk and steriod talk. I won't delete a post or thread if someone is saying that a prohormone is supposed to be like a steriod and comparing the two. I will however, delete anything suggesting someone take an illegal steriod or blantantly disregaurding the rules of the forum.

SD is illegal does that count?... Just wondering

Talk to nic if you want this thread deleted. He'll delete just about anything about roids. I'm not the db police. You guys know what's ok and what's not. If you disagree with what someone is saying then say so. Just respect each other.

Nah nah nah.. I will stay silent... Liquid MD is totally legal... We just went a little off subject with the pro hormones... sort of... The PCT was informative. I think its the age issue that is the biggest deal, but hey what can you do right?

RE: Liquid Masterdrol (rippedchick)

Tue, 10 Jul 2007 14:47:39 GMT

ORIGINAL: IBendBarbells

ORIGINAL: rippedchick

There's a fine line between prohormone talk and steriod talk. I won't delete a post or thread if someone is saying that a prohormone is supposed to be like a steriod and comparing the two. I will however, delete anything suggesting someone take an illegal steriod or blantantly disregaurding the rules of the forum.

SD is illegal does that count?... Just wondering

Talk to nic if you want this thread deleted. He'll delete just about anything about roids. I'm not the db police. You guys know what's ok and what's not. If you disagree with what someone is saying then say so. Just respect each other.

RE: Liquid Masterdrol (IBendBarbells)

Tue, 10 Jul 2007 14:39:55 GMT

ORIGINAL: rippedchick

There's a fine line between prohormone talk and steriod talk. I won't delete a post or thread if someone is saying that a prohormone is supposed to be like a steriod and comparing the two. I will however, delete anything suggesting someone take an illegal steriod or blantantly disregaurding the rules of the forum.

SD is illegal does that count?... Just wondering

RE: Liquid Masterdrol (rippedchick)

Tue, 10 Jul 2007 14:37:05 GMT

There's a fine line between prohormone talk and steriod talk. I won't delete a post or thread if someone is saying that a prohormone is supposed to be like a steriod and comparing the two. I will however, delete anything suggesting someone take an illegal steriod or blantantly disregaurding the rules of the forum.

RE: Liquid Masterdrol (VaughnTrue)

Mon, 09 Jul 2007 16:07:25 GMT

ORIGINAL: rippedchick

Let's watch the tone of our posts...

I apoligize if you think I was attacking dbb.com, as that is the last thing I am looking to do over here. The entire reason I've started to post here again is the MASS amount of wrong information shared on this board. This board taught me a LOT and is responsible for me being into fitness/supplements at this point.

I just find it egregious that there are certain people on this board speaking about the benefits of PH's/DS when they are underage themselves.

Something must be done to help moderate posts such as this...if this is a non-steroid board, lets keep it that way.

RE: Liquid Masterdrol (rippedchick)

Mon, 09 Jul 2007 14:38:46 GMT

Let's watch the tone of our posts...

RE: Liquid Masterdrol (VaughnTrue)

Mon, 09 Jul 2007 14:22:59 GMT

ORIGINAL: psalms_soldier

im 21 now thats out dated, and im mor einformed that 90% of this board.

yea? whats your point? Not to bash dbb, but this board is the most immature board I have ever been on with most likely the least amount of knowledge as a result.

You're giving out PH advice to people, yet YOU shouldn't have been doing a single one.

RE: Liquid Masterdrol (psalms_soldier)

Mon, 09 Jul 2007 12:44:41 GMT

im 21 now thats out dated, and im mor einformed that 90% of this board.

RE: Liquid Masterdrol (odw777)

Mon, 09 Jul 2007 12:18:19 GMT

ORIGINAL: VaughnTrue

ok first off...

1. Epistane is a no joke PH that requires Nolva. No questions asked.
2. Getting your hands on nolva is extremely safe/legal. It can be sold as a "research chemical" to ANYONE over 18,in the US. all you need is a credit/debit card.
3. Psalms, you're 20 years old and already done SD?

ooohhhhh myyyy goood this damn board is ridiculous.

Ahh I see what you mean after a bit of research. I thought it would be harder to get.
To be honest I don't think there's a reason to be messing with otc crap if you can get torem for much less, and it would be all you need.

I'll still wait till I'm 21 though, I was just thinking epistane might get banned before then.

RE: Liquid Masterdrol (IBendBarbells)

Mon, 09 Jul 2007 09:49:44 GMT

ORIGINAL: johnnyb1635

ORIGINAL: IBendBarbells

ORIGINAL: johnnyb1635

He was referring to the company Legal Gear or LG Sciences IBB. Im on my second week of LM and I personally like the stuff. Its def. working for me. My strength is up about 10 lbs on almost all compound lifts, but my back is kinda breaking out. My agression is wayy up too, I NEVER get mad and I have had a very short fuse the last few days. I just get reallly pissed off about 2 hours after I take the LM.

Im going to take this stuff for another three weeks, take about a month/month and a half start up a cycle of Epistane. This will be after I get my lipids, and liver values tested. I'll probably get my kidneys checked too. My PCT for this will be only formadrol, but I have Nolva on hand just incase.

I really cant wait to get on Epistane, Ive been reading up about it ALOT and I've read nothing but good. Im going to order 1 or 2 bottles of the stuff now just incase the FDA gets ahold of it.

Oh gotcha I mis understood. In that case I agree with him.. Winstrolx or what ever they call it danabol etc.. LoL steroid knock off names.. Yeah all that stuff tends to just be a scam to get your money.

Epistane I hear is pretty damn good.

Its funny you talk about the agression with Liquid MD.. I had the same thing.. I felt hot at times and then I would just flip out and get pissed... about little things too.

Oh yes, I agree, Its almost like I overheat, rather unpleaseant. The stuff gives you some pretty good strength gains though. What did you use for a PCT, Im just curious to see if it looks like mine.

I got an NHA stack.. which seemed to help me gain more strength and lean muscle then the Actual PH did... Honestly I took liquid MD for about 2 1/2 weeks and threw it away after all the side affects.. I did not like it.. it was not worth the gains.. Most of it was just water anyways I could totally feel it. So reboundXT and ActivaTe

RE: Liquid Masterdrol (johnnyb1635)

Mon, 09 Jul 2007 09:05:08 GMT

ORIGINAL: IBendBarbells

ORIGINAL: johnnyb1635

He was referring to the company Legal Gear or LG Sciences IBB. Im on my second week of LM and I personally like the stuff. Its def. working for me. My strength is up about 10 lbs on almost all compound lifts, but my back is kinda breaking out. My agression is wayy up too, I NEVER get mad and I have had a very short fuse the last few days. I just get reallly pissed off about 2 hours after I take the LM.

Im going to take this stuff for another three weeks, take about a month/month and a half start up a cycle of Epistane. This will be after I get my lipids, and liver values tested. I'll probably get my kidneys checked too. My PCT for this will be only formadrol, but I have Nolva on hand just incase.

I really cant wait to get on Epistane, Ive been reading up about it ALOT and I've read nothing but good. Im going to order 1 or 2 bottles of the stuff now just incase the FDA gets ahold of it.

Oh gotcha I mis understood. In that case I agree with him.. Winstrolx or what ever they call it danabol etc.. LoL steroid knock off names.. Yeah all that stuff tends to just be a scam to get your money.

Epistane I hear is pretty damn good.

Its funny you talk about the agression with Liquid MD.. I had the same thing.. I felt hot at times and then I would just flip out and get pissed... about little things too.

Oh yes, I agree, Its almost like I overheat, rather unpleaseant. The stuff gives you some pretty good strength gains though. What did you use for a PCT, Im just curious to see if it looks like mine.

RE: Liquid Masterdrol (IBendBarbells)

Mon, 09 Jul 2007 09:04:05 GMT

ORIGINAL: VaughnTrue

ok first off...

1. Epistane is a no joke PH that requires Nolva. No questions asked.
2. Getting your hands on nolva is extremely safe/legal. It can be sold as a "research chemical" to ANYONE over 18,in the US. all you need is a credit/debit card.
3. Psalms, you're 20 years old and already done SD?

ooohhhhh myyyy goood this damn board is ridiculous.

LoL I agree you know even on the other board I belong too where they promote anabolic use sort of... well at least they help with it.. Hardly any of the kids under the age of 20 are using pro hormones! I think its probably because they are informed though. This board is insane!! There are hell of teenagers on the ****.

RE: Liquid Masterdrol (johnnyb1635)

Mon, 09 Jul 2007 08:58:50 GMT

I agree with Vaughn, Epistane is no joke at all, and it will require a full PCT. It IS methylated, so it will take its toll on your liver, and Formadrol will absolutely not be enough for a PCT in my opinion.

Although, I was reading a post on BB.com forums about ATD(active ingredient in formadrol) and the poster was talking about how doses of 100mg of ATD /day is supposedly as effective as taking nolva???. Im not sure as to the legitamacy of that statement but I guess it could make sense, if you stacked AT and ATD together.

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So, let's talk atd. Atd offers several advantages over our more traditional pct drugs. Firstly, atd does not show any affinity for increasing shbg. That means that while test levels continue to increase, there will be an abundance of free test. This allows us to better maintain gains, as well as strength during pct.

Secondly, atd has been shown to be equally as productive as nolva and clomid in stimulating the release of gnrh, and therefore, lh and fsh. Since atd binds directly to the enzyme, there is a decrease in actual levels of circulating estrogen, this is akin to nolva and clomid's action of binding to the receptor, except that it will drastically reduce the chance of estrogen rebound.

Thirdly, atd has the ability to address the androgen feedback loop. This means that atd will block the pituitary from receiving the signals that tell it to stop producing gnrh. This occurs when levels of androgens begin to increase greatly. That means that the pituitary will continue to produce more and more gnrh, therefore more and more lh and fsh. That will allow the testes to more test, and do so more rapidly.

As you can see, atd would be the better option for almost all pct protocols. Where nolva supposedly "shines" is in its ability to allow for the production of new estrogen. This allows for improvement in lipid profiles. This is, however, and ill conceived advantage. A steroidal ai, like atd, also allows for production of new estrogen. The only product I know of that does not allow for any increase in circulating estrogen is arimidex.<qoute>

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