Should the US Government ban ephedra products?

RE: Should the US Government ban ephedra products? (eugene.k.davis)

Wed, 14 Nov 2007 06:37:51 GMT

i also agree with vaughn... if your going to abuse something then there is nothing the govt. can do so who cares let them abuse drugs and die that stuff happens all the time now

RE: Should the US Government ban ephedra products? (VaughnTrue)

Tue, 13 Nov 2007 21:48:22 GMT

ORIGINAL: goody537

I have one problem with Ephedra. The problem is I want to take it, but.... And in my opinion the reason Ephedra has not been released for use. METH METH METH.. The biggest problem in the US of A. The easier to get the ephedra, the more meth you can make. If they sell a 90 count bottle for weight loss. A Methhead can get a lot meth out of a 90 count bottle. It is just something that the good folk miss out on a great product.

takes a lot of ephedra to make not THAT much meth. but yes. that is the main reasoning behind its illegality.

RE: Should the US Government ban ephedra products? (goody537)

Tue, 13 Nov 2007 21:30:48 GMT

I have one problem with Ephedra. The problem is I want to take it, but.... And in my opinion the reason Ephedra has not been released for use. METH METH METH.. The biggest problem in the US of A. The easier to get the ephedra, the more meth you can make. If they sell a 90 count bottle for weight loss. A Methhead can get a lot meth out of a 90 count bottle. It is just something that the good folk miss out on a great product.

RE: Should the US Government ban ephedra products? (VaughnTrue)

Sun, 11 Nov 2007 20:33:28 GMT

ORIGINAL: johnnyb1635

ORIGINAL: VaughnTrue

ORIGINAL: odw777

ORIGINAL: VaughnTrue

amsterdam seems to do pretty well while having no real illegal drugs.

Except hard drugs and prescription medication are still illegal in Amsterdam.

It's not going to happen because pharmacy companies push their drugs throught doctors, and they're the second richest industry after oil. Thought I see your point about the government having no right to tell people what they can and can't put into their bodies

Oh ok...because ecstasy isnt legal there?

Our nation would BENEFIT from legalizing all drugs. Itd be about time that people were able to make their own decisions. if we lost 90% of all hard drug users due to overdose, I say GREAT. Is that a bit harsh? Sure, but even if it was my own mother, they're adults and can make their own decisions.

Who the hell is the govt to tell me how to treat MY body.

I agree with vaughn... I mean, I'm not going to abuse legalized drugs, what the hell do I care if some junkie blows half a bottle of perks cause he has a headache and suffers a massive hemorhage. These things happen, it will cut the drug problem quite a bit I think.

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RE: Should the US Government ban ephedra products? (johnnyb1635)

Sun, 11 Nov 2007 20:29:31 GMT

ORIGINAL: VaughnTrue

ORIGINAL: odw777

ORIGINAL: VaughnTrue

amsterdam seems to do pretty well while having no real illegal drugs.

Except hard drugs and prescription medication are still illegal in Amsterdam.

It's not going to happen because pharmacy companies push their drugs throught doctors, and they're the second richest industry after oil. Thought I see your point about the government having no right to tell people what they can and can't put into their bodies

Oh ok...because ecstasy isnt legal there?

Our nation would BENEFIT from legalizing all drugs. Itd be about time that people were able to make their own decisions. if we lost 90% of all hard drug users due to overdose, I say GREAT. Is that a bit harsh? Sure, but even if it was my own mother, they're adults and can make their own decisions.

Who the hell is the govt to tell me how to treat MY body.

I agree with vaughn... I mean, I'm not going to abuse legalized drugs, what the hell do I care if some junkie blows half a bottle of perks cause he has a headache and suffers a massive hemorhage. These things happen, it will cut the drug problem quite a bit I think.

RE: Should the US Government ban ephedra products? (Soccerking3000)

Sat, 10 Nov 2007 11:39:18 GMT

in all honesty its a solid way of pretty much getting rid of the spending used to enforce drug policies and replacing it with what could be a multi-billion dollar revenue that could be used to i dunno maybe get rid of the ridiculous deficit.

But here in lies what i think is the MAJOR reason why it will never happen. By switching up the laws and legalizing certain natural drugs, its essentially saying everything the gov't has done in the past 50 years and all the money they spent was stupid and the people who supported it are also no longer credible ect ect. Like i wrote in the other thread about politicians, they all have their own agendas and NONE of them want to look stupid. Look at the war in Iraq, was it a screw up in a lot of respects? Most definitely and the leaders or our nation know this but instead of admitting guilt they keep going along with it because they are afraid of being wrong.

This type of mentallity can be traced back to the abolishment of alcohol, the only difference was because there was such a large and uncontrollable way to enforce it, they were forced to remove it. The only difference i see today is that we've let people become to powerful and are willing to sacrifice the pride and view of our nation to benefit them. There are no large ORGANIZED (i emphasize this) groups speaking out and it all just gets swept under the rug and neglected like so many other issues.

RE: Should the US Government ban ephedra products? (odw777)

Sat, 10 Nov 2007 11:11:49 GMT

ORIGINAL: Soccerking3000

i say if the gov't is so concerned about it all, make it legal and tax it, jsut like cigarettes, sell packs of joints lol with a gov't tax on them in reality kinda everyone wins. The same could be said for other drugs but obviously its just wishful thinking. When you make something illegal the people who used it before are still going to get it if they want it, hence the MASSIVE black/drug market issue we have in america...

Did you know that marijuana use among teenagers is acctually supposed to be lower in Holland then in America? That just shows egalization can work.

I definitely agree. natural drugs should be legal. The amount of money the government spends on enforcing marijuana laws is ridiculous.

RE: Should the US Government ban ephedra products? (Soccerking3000)

Sat, 10 Nov 2007 11:03:05 GMT

i say if the gov't is so concerned about it all, make it legal and tax it, jsut like cigarettes, sell packs of joints lol with a gov't tax on them in reality kinda everyone wins. The same could be said for other drugs but obviously its just wishful thinking. When you make something illegal the people who used it before are still going to get it if they want it, hence the MASSIVE black/drug market issue we have in america...

RE: Should the US Government ban ephedra products? (odw777)

Sat, 10 Nov 2007 10:53:49 GMT

ORIGINAL: VaughnTrue

Oh ok...because ecstasy isnt legal there?

Try bringing in ecstasy to Amsterdam and selling it on the street then.

RE: Should the US Government ban ephedra products? (VaughnTrue)

Sat, 10 Nov 2007 06:11:05 GMT

ORIGINAL: odw777

ORIGINAL: VaughnTrue

amsterdam seems to do pretty well while having no real illegal drugs.

Except hard drugs and prescription medication are still illegal in Amsterdam.

It's not going to happen because pharmacy companies push their drugs throught doctors, and they're the second richest industry after oil. Thought I see your point about the government having no right to tell people what they can and can't put into their bodies

Oh ok...because ecstasy isnt legal there?

Our nation would BENEFIT from legalizing all drugs. Itd be about time that people were able to make their own decisions. if we lost 90% of all hard drug users due to overdose, I say GREAT. Is that a bit harsh? Sure, but even if it was my own mother, they're adults and can make their own decisions.

Who the hell is the govt to tell me how to treat MY body.

RE: Should the US Government ban ephedra products? (odw777)

Fri, 09 Nov 2007 22:00:00 GMT

ORIGINAL: VaughnTrue

amsterdam seems to do pretty well while having no real illegal drugs.

Except hard drugs and prescription medication are still illegal in Amsterdam.

It's not going to happen because pharmacy companies push their drugs throught doctors, and they're the second richest industry after oil. Thought I see your point about the government having no right to tell people what they can and can't put into their bodies

RE: Should the US Government ban ephedra products? (VaughnTrue)

Fri, 09 Nov 2007 21:22:07 GMT

ORIGINAL: odw777

I say definitely no.

ORIGINAL: VaughnTrue

use vs abuse is the real subject at hand. Not ephedra.

any compound, of ANY danger, should be legal. The responsibility rests within the consumer. Not the government to tell us what we can and can't do with out own bodies.

I dunno then the hospitals would be clogged up with people trying to take prescription medication without having a clue. Probobly take viocoding for headaches and whatever.

amsterdam seems to do pretty well while having no real illegal drugs.

RE: Should the US Government ban ephedra products? (odw777)

Fri, 09 Nov 2007 20:14:26 GMT

I say definitely no.

ORIGINAL: VaughnTrue

use vs abuse is the real subject at hand. Not ephedra.

any compound, of ANY danger, should be legal. The responsibility rests within the consumer. Not the government to tell us what we can and can't do with out own bodies.

I dunno then the hospitals would be clogged up with people trying to take prescription medication without having a clue. Probobly take viocoding for headaches and whatever.

RE: Should the US Government ban ephedra products? (VaughnTrue)

Fri, 09 Nov 2007 20:09:24 GMT

ORIGINAL: determined58

any compound, of ANY danger, should be legal. The responsibility rests within the consumer. Not the government to tell us what we can and can't do with out own bodies.

I agree but age restrictions and good parenting still need to be applied.

ahhh the downfall of america

RE: Should the US Government ban ephedra products? (determined58)

Fri, 09 Nov 2007 18:58:42 GMT

any compound, of ANY danger, should be legal. The responsibility rests within the consumer. Not the government to tell us what we can and can't do with out own bodies.

I agree but age restrictions and good parenting still need to be applied.