GOTTA USE KNEE WRAPS

RE: GOTTA USE KNEE WRAPS (Vario)

Wed, 30 May 2007 15:07:16 GMT

I have a set of Titan wraps.

Used them for only one Max attempt so far.

My squat suit is a junky used $20 zsuit. I hit a difficult 295 with the suit and belt.
Put on wraps. 315 easy. 345 easy. 385 Easy, all competition depth.

Im guessing my geared max is around 405.
I do a lot of heavy box squatting so while my raw free squat might suck, when I put on full equipment I can get some solid numbers.

If/when I get a new titan centurion suit, Ill probably have 425 easy.

RE: GOTTA USE KNEE WRAPS (fresha)

Tue, 29 May 2007 07:52:58 GMT

Neoprene knee sleeves are the way to go.

Instead of working as a supportive aid they are used for the purpose of warming the joint of the knee which helps prevent injury.

Knee wraps merely mask a weakness and add further risk of injury as they lever the knee further during deep squats due to the bulk of material behind the knee.

RE: GOTTA USE KNEE WRAPS (ironraider52)

Sun, 27 May 2007 14:17:24 GMT

i mean i agree that i would rather use everything raw but sometimes its good to throw that in u no.

RE: GOTTA USE KNEE WRAPS (David1991)

Thu, 24 May 2007 12:02:32 GMT

ORIGINAL: ironraider52

well, they say that when u use more weight, ur muscle gets bigger correct....well if say u can squat 405....u put on knee wraps (which by the way u might get 425-435 outta it if ur lucky) and u use that extra weight to get more reps or higher weight....stimulates more growth.

i found that i got good growth from it....idk just my opinion.

u may be lifting more but ur still creating the same stimulis with ur muscles because they going just as hard as before but now without the stablilizer muscles not helping as much

RE: GOTTA USE KNEE WRAPS (Dark)

Thu, 24 May 2007 07:49:53 GMT

Have to agree with the overall statements made here. They are good for when you are pushing that 85% max rep for short burst. They Add to the stabilizers, thus allowing a stronger lift. At these weights, you want them. But for the development cycle of things, the long term use of them will not allow the ligaments and augmenting muscles to strengthen to get you to the next level. At work out levels 60 - 70 %(450lb in my case) I just don't use them, cause i feel I cheat, myself per se. It is like not going past 90 on the squats, if you train the ligiments to do so, then thats what you get. Once you get to heavy, and are forced to go past this 90 degree angle, a legit squat, you ligaments can end up doing the snap, crackle, pop on ya.Cause they don't know any better.
So for training purpose, no, don't use them, for support at optimal weight they are useful there to add support.

RE: GOTTA USE KNEE WRAPS (njmuscle66)

Thu, 24 May 2007 04:34:04 GMT

ORIGINAL: Bigc_sams777

Well with powerlifting being my main goal, I'm more concerned about putting up big numbers with good form. I know it's not good to use them all the time because ur knee doesnt get strengthened as much, which can potentially cause injury. But as far as muscle growth is concerned, I'm not really worried about it. Besides I only use them on HEAVY sets, like going 85 percent or more of my max. I plan to use them on about 2 of every 5 sets and for maxing out.

that is a good method and in keeping with your goals!

RE: GOTTA USE KNEE WRAPS (Bigc_sams777)

Wed, 23 May 2007 21:20:26 GMT

Well with powerlifting being my main goal, I'm more concerned about putting up big numbers with good form. I know it's not good to use them all the time because ur knee doesnt get strengthened as much, which can potentially cause injury. But as far as muscle growth is concerned, I'm not really worried about it. Besides I only use them on HEAVY sets, like going 85 percent or more of my max. I plan to use them on about 2 of every 5 sets and for maxing out.

RE: GOTTA USE KNEE WRAPS (njmuscle66)

Wed, 23 May 2007 18:04:42 GMT

ORIGINAL: ironraider52

well, they say that when u use more weight, ur muscle gets bigger correct....well if say u can squat 405....u put on knee wraps (which by the way u might get 425-435 outta it if ur lucky) and u use that extra weight to get more reps or higher weight....stimulates more growth.

i found that i got good growth from it....idk just my opinion.

An increase in strength can translate to greater size but.........again I like to measure progress without the various supportive aids that are out there. Like I said I used them but much more comfortable with measure progress based on raw numbers

RE: GOTTA USE KNEE WRAPS (ironraider52)

Wed, 23 May 2007 17:38:53 GMT

well, they say that when u use more weight, ur muscle gets bigger correct....well if say u can squat 405....u put on knee wraps (which by the way u might get 425-435 outta it if ur lucky) and u use that extra weight to get more reps or higher weight....stimulates more growth.

i found that i got good growth from it....idk just my opinion.

RE: GOTTA USE KNEE WRAPS (njmuscle66)

Wed, 23 May 2007 12:25:09 GMT

ORIGINAL: ironraider52

i think knee wraps are important for bodybuilding as well as powwerlifting. It overloads ur weight used and gets ur muscles bigger. remember to get those boys tight :)

it allows you to use more weight that is clear. They are supportive aids. Wraps/a suit/ bench shirt could add 50-100 lbs or more on a lift-but it is just a number but I don't see how that translates to greater muscle growth

Sure if my raw squat/bench goes up 50 lbs I can equate that with an improvement. But if I can squat 405 raw but if I wrap I get 450. How is just the mere fact I am wrapping going to cause muscle gain-it is an artificial number

RE: GOTTA USE KNEE WRAPS (ironraider52)

Wed, 23 May 2007 07:10:05 GMT

i think knee wraps are important for bodybuilding as well as powwerlifting. It overloads ur weight used and gets ur muscles bigger. remember to get those boys tight :)

RE: GOTTA USE KNEE WRAPS (njmuscle66)

Tue, 22 May 2007 21:03:37 GMT

Only time I used them was when I was training for a powerlifting meet and doing singles over 500. For general bodybuilding purposes I don't see a need for wraps. In fact the Titan red lines end up so tight it borders on being uncomfortable. I guess if I was looking for pure 1Rm numbers they would be helpful for the ego but not so much for muscle gains

RE: GOTTA USE KNEE WRAPS (David1991)

Tue, 22 May 2007 11:56:57 GMT

i dont myself, and i dont think most ppl here wear them because they take away from stabilizer muscles being used

GOTTA USE KNEE WRAPS (Bigc_sams777)

Tue, 22 May 2007 09:47:43 GMT

Okay, so I finally got me a pair of knee wraps for squat. They say it's important to wear these things plus it will supposedly add a hefty poundage to ur 1RM which is fine by me. Do all u squatters out there use knee wraps? I got the red lines by titan. What brands do you guys use? They feel pretty good, assuming that I'm putting them on correctly. I can't wait till my next squat workout to see what these things can do.