Krieger's journey on OPTIMUM ANABOLICS

RE: That's it! (Krieger)

Wed, 09 Jan 2008 00:20:13 GMT

Exactly! To tell you the truth, yes, HST is better. Because you don't kill yourself (never go to failure) and produce positive results and it's all based on science. I'm gaining more in HST than Optimum Anabolics and I don't feel so much pressure.

RE: That's it! (Vengeance)

Sat, 01 Dec 2007 05:10:58 GMT

Is this what you're talking about? Do you like it better than OA? How fast have you gained lean mass on OA and how fast on HST?

RE: That's it! (Krieger)

Thu, 18 Oct 2007 03:46:11 GMT

Don't use it, try to build the supportive strenght of the body instead. But if you have issues, than use it.

Do you have a journal of Optimum Anabolics? Right now I'm in love with HST, and I don't plan on returning OA too soon.

RE: That's it! (Okay)

Sat, 15 Sep 2007 20:38:58 GMT

Hey, during week seven, one of the tips is to lose the weight belt. the Muscle Nerd claims that it weaken you abs and INCREASES your chance of injuries.

I'm shocked. I'm still deciding whether to lose it or not. any advice?

RE: That's it! (Krieger)

Sun, 05 Aug 2007 11:31:15 GMT

05/august/2007

MEASUREMENTS

neck 43 cm
wrist 17 cm
chest 109 cm
waist 102/108(abs) cm
arms 37,5 cm
forearm 30 cm
hips 109 cm
calves 39
thighs 61

BF 20.68% (pollock 4)
LBM: 75.52 Kg
BF: 19.68 Kg
Weight: 95.2 kg
Height: 185 cm

So that's it. I'm finished for now, and I have to do a major cutting :) I ate so much crap into this course it would be no surprising I would be a bit more fat too. Anyway, now into cutting I go !!!

That's it! (Krieger)

Wed, 01 Aug 2007 05:22:32 GMT

It's the last week of this cycle, also I'm closing my bulking phase. I want to shredd off this fat!

Next week I will go into cutting phase, but I will remain sticking to optimum anabolics - it's time to test it as a fat burning program ;)

I'm very excited about going on the next phase, I have big plans and I will start a new log to the next week.

Thanks smf_4ever and everyone!

RE: 9th (smf_4ever)

Wed, 25 Jul 2007 15:10:18 GMT

Great job dude!!! I just completed week 13... and for now.. I am out (shoulder injury/surgery required soon).. So I (due to bitterness) will not be typing out all my journals.... OA works like a MoFo!! (injury is not due to lifting.. I just agravated the hell out of it with it).

Rock on everyone!! I will be back... later..

RE: 9th (Krieger)

Mon, 23 Jul 2007 21:54:26 GMT

WEEK 11 - DAY ONE (mon/july)
HYPERADAPTIVE
HIGH PROTEIN + 1
Shoulders

ss1
Front Dumbbell Lateral Raise 4x12 6x10 6x8
Twisting Dumbbell Military Press 6x12 8x9 8x7

ss2
Rear Dumbbell Lateral Raise 4x12 4x10 6x8
Side Dumbbell Lateral Raise 4x12 4x10 6x8

ss3
Dumbbel Shrug 8x12 10x10
Arnold Press 8x12 10x10

Not able to finish cause the gym was closing.

ss2
Dumbbell Flyes 6x12 6x10 6x8
Bench Press to Neck 28x12 28x10 28x8

ss3

RE: 9th (Krieger)

Sat, 21 Jul 2007 17:30:14 GMT

I have to say I was very skepticall with this testosterone boosting during low protein phase, which I couldn't reckon any visible changes. I guess they were there but I just didn't noticed them. I feel good overall, with lots of energy. I think I look healthier overall, this includes skin and hair. BUt I have to say this is because of diet also.

And I doubt I hadn't any good hormonal increases as I'm absorbing so much protein as it shows my weight. Of course I have to say it was 2 kg in one month because in the three weeks of low protein phase I gained only half kilo... but its 2,5 kg in one month or 5.5 lbs in one month, which is great anyway!

RE: 9th (Krieger)

Sat, 21 Jul 2007 17:25:18 GMT

Today I Weighted myself in fasting and the number in the scale was unbelievable as it was the number I was optimistically expecting. I'm weightin 94 KG, which means in only one week I gainned 2 kg of close to 100% muscle. Which means 4.4 Lbs in one week!. I now it's seems advertising sh"t (which I hate), but I was skeptically amazed! IT WORKS! I never gainned 2 kg of muscle so fast ever, and I hope this keeps going like this.

Also, I can say it was very very small amount of fat added if it was. I'm very paranoid about my fat and belly gains and I would notice them quickly. My friends would also. They were telling me this week I look bigger.

I can see major gains in back and in shoulders, as it's overall size.

Let's keep movin'!

RE: 9th (Krieger)

Sat, 21 Jul 2007 17:19:27 GMT

WEEK 10 - DAY FIVE (fri/july)
HYPERADAPTIVE
HIGH PROTEIN + 1
Chest/Abs

ss1
Dumbbell Flyes 6x12 6x10 6x8
Bench Press to Neck 28x12 28x10 28x8

ss2
Dumbbell Flyes 6x12 6x10 6x8
Bench Press to Neck 28x12 28x10 28x8

ss3
-

Great workout, feels pumped. No Abs today, I was late to an appointment.

RE: 9th (Krieger)

Sat, 21 Jul 2007 17:17:07 GMT

WEEK 10 - DAY FOUR (thurs/july)
HYPERADAPTIVE
HIGH PROTEIN + 1
BACK

ss1
Hanging Row 20x12 20x10 20x8
Wide Arm Lat Pulldown 35x12 40x10 40x8

ss2
Hanging Row 20x12 20x10 20x8
Wide Arm Lat Pulldown 35x12 40x10 40x8

ss3
Hanging Row 20x12 20x10 20x8
Wide Arm Lat Pulldown 35x12 40x10 40x8

Very good workout. It was not hard, not easy either, how it should be a hyperadaptive workout, without going into failure but without doing some effort.

RE: 9th (Krieger)

Thu, 19 Jul 2007 15:23:04 GMT

WEEK 10 - DAY THREE (wed 19/july)
HYPERADAPTIVE
HIGH PROTEIN + 1
LEGS

ss1
Leg Extension 15x12 20x10 25x8
Lying Leg Curl 15x12 20x10 25x8

ss2
Seated Calf Raise 30x12 30x10 30x8
Squat 20x12 20x10 20x8

ss3
Seated Calf Raise 30x12 30x10 30x8
Squat 20x12 20x10 20x8

That's the easiest leg workout ever.

RE: 9th (Krieger)

Tue, 17 Jul 2007 21:32:53 GMT

WEEK 10 - DAY TWO (tues 18/july)
HYPERADAPTIVE
HIGH PROTEIN + 1
ARMS/ABS

ss1
Dumbbell Preacher Curl 6x12 6x10 6x8
Reverse Grip Press Down 10x12 15x8 15x7

ss2
Hammer Curl 6x12 6x10 6x8
Dumbbel French Press 6x12 6x10 6x8

ss3
Twisting Crunch x12 x10
Hanging Knee Raise x12 x10

I had to go unfinished cause of the time.
I don't know if it's my gim's mirror but my arms is looking bigger.

RE: 9th (Krieger)

Tue, 17 Jul 2007 21:29:43 GMT

Here are my measurements:

neck 42 cm
wrist 17 cm
chest 109 cm
waist 99/105(abs) cm
arms 37 cm
forearm 30 cm
hips 107 cm
calves 38
thighs 62

BF ? (still waiting for callipers... )
Weight: 92 kg
Height: 185 cm

What I can tell about low protein phase? I did not notice any major changes, really. Maybe some strenght gains in the first two weeks. My sex drive was not yelling like I thought it was going to be, but it's high normally so :) I was amazed about how I didn't lost any muscle or had any troubles with this diet, it seems to handle just fine. I even thought I was more bulky by the mirror.. but I think I'm still with that belly... very weird, it seems like this program mess with your body greatly... I mean, sometimes I feel thinner and sometimes fatter... that's strange...

WEEK 10 - DAY ONE (mon 17/july)
HYPERADAPTIVE
HIGH PROTEIN + 1
SHOULDERS

SS1
Front Dumbbell Lateral Raise 4x12 4x10 4x8
Barbbell Military Press 8x12 8x10 8x8

SS2
Rear Dumbbel Lateral Raise 4x12 4x10 4x8
Side Dumbbell Lateral Raise 4x11 4x9 4x8

SS3
Rear Dumbbell Lateral Raise 4x12 4x10 4x8
Barbbell Military Press 12x12 12x10 12x8

That's a relief. Going on progressive loading while in low protein diet is exausting and all you wait is for this first week of relief.
I can take my ass of protein now... milk, milk, milk! and eggs, and meat, never tasted so good! I'm having a pizza this weekend for sure. Maybe two. :)

Hyperadaptive I'm going into low weights but with some volume (i'm repeating some exercises from the same tables). Anyone has a comment on doing the same exercise in different times, like I did with military press?

Shoulders are very nice and I can see in the mirror (with proper lighting) a separation of delts and triceps.