Need proof that excessive protein consumption does not hurt the body.

RE: Need proof that excessive protein consumption does not hurt the body. (odw777)

Sun, 18 Mar 2007 17:25:28 GMT

Yeah Deadly is a beast. Pound for pound it's the equivelent of me eating around 250g a day, which is about right.

Protein consumption should depend on your carb/protein/fat breakdown in your diet.
Trying to get too much like 70% protein isn't going to be all that good at all.
Like everyone said too much can be a strain on your kidneys.

RE: Need proof that excessive protein consumption does not hurt the body. (UNCnate)

Sun, 18 Mar 2007 16:03:38 GMT

ORIGINAL: deadlysuperstar

For what it's worth, I eat 420g of protein a day and I get bloodwork and physicals regularly and nothing's wrong with me.

Have you ever tried a smaller amount of protein per day, while taking bulk leucine?

Id be interested to see if your results vary if you were to consume only 300 grams of protein a day but add 50 grams of leucine a day.

Edit: Just saw you weigh 293 lbs at 6'5, thats huge. I guess thats why youre consuming so much protein, huh.

RE: Need proof that excessive protein consumption does not hurt the body. (UNCnate)

Sun, 18 Mar 2007 16:01:38 GMT

ORIGINAL: psalms_soldier

ORIGINAL: localoutoftowner

I think that excessive protein at one time could be stressful to the kidneys.

exactly right, it can which is why you shoudlnt be on the Jay Cutler Protien intake, and should be drinking tons of water.

High protein diets are perfectly safe assuming you are getting the necessary water intake to accompany that much protein.

You cant compare regular protein consumption to that of a bodybuilder, so with that comes more than normal water consumption as well. The kidneys are going to thank you for more water.

RE: Need proof that excessive protein consumption does not hurt the body. (psalms_soldier)

Sat, 17 Mar 2007 22:40:33 GMT

ORIGINAL: localoutoftowner

I think that excessive protein at one time could be stressful to the kidneys.

exactly right, it can which is why you shoudlnt be on the Jay Cutler Protien intake, and should be drinking tons of water.

RE: Need proof that excessive protein consumption does not hurt the body. (localoutoftowner)

Sat, 17 Mar 2007 22:34:25 GMT

I think that excessive protein at one time could be stressful to the kidneys.

RE: Need proof that excessive protein consumption does not hurt the body. (psalms_soldier)

Sat, 17 Mar 2007 22:32:11 GMT

i have stated this before but there are several points flawed with the article and a library of other articles that disagree with everything its saying.

Do your own research, be your own judge, but IMO that artciles not worth the screen its typed on.

last time i checked i wanted to look like abodybuilder not a cyclist.

RE: Need proof that excessive protein consumption does not hurt the body. (5.0stang)

Sat, 17 Mar 2007 20:54:44 GMT

I found this posted by Nic, thought it was good info.

Any more?

HOW MUCH PROTEIN DO YOU REALLY NEED? A team of researchers from Kent State University, Ohio, and McMaster University, Ontario, led by Dr. Peter Lemon studied a group of 12 male subjects during two months of resistance training. They found that a protein intake of 81 grams per day (0.99g per kg of bodyweight for a 180 lb male) resulted in a negative nitrogen balance. Nitrogen balance is a measure of protein metabolism. A negative nitrogen balance indicates that the protein needs of the body are not being met and protein is being scavanged from tissue elsewhere in the body to maintain essential body functions. This may lead to reduced gains in muscle mass and strength. Can you eat too much protein? This group also found that protein intakes above 2.62 grams per kg of bodyweight (214 grams for a 180lb male) provided no additional benefit in terms of nitrogen balance and increased the risk of renal overload and dehydration. Long term studies of large groups show that a high protein/low carbohydrate diet increases the risk of kidney stones and bone loss. These findings were substantiated by a University of Texas study of 10 volunteers on a high protein/low carbohydrte diet for two weeks. Blood uric acid levels (uric acid is a major cause of kidney stones) rose 90% and urinary levels of citrate (which inhibits kidney stone formation) dropped 25%. And finally, any extra protein Calories (beyond what you are expending per day) are stored as fat, not muscle.
Protein is essential for endurance athletes as well as to aid muscle development. As far back as 1983, scientists demonstrated that two hours of exercise can drain the body of essential protein stores. Based on their findings, Dr. Lemon makes the following recommendations for protein intake for strength and endurance athletes:

Strength - 1.6-1.7 grams of dietary protein per kg of bodyweight
Endurance - 1.2-1.4 grams of dietary protein per kg of bodyweight

The average 70 kg (154 pound) cyclist will need from 80 to 100 grams of protein per day. And for those at the elite level, the requirement may be as high as 1.7 grams of protein per kgm (120 grams for the ideal 70 kg rider). And as active athletes consume more daily Calories, a balanced diet without supplements will meet these increased needs. A literature review failed to find any support for protein supplements (assuming a balnaced daily diet with the normal distribution of protein intake) compared to a pure carbohydrates diet alone. In fact there is the potential for a DECREASE in overall performance from the appetite suppressing effects of a high protein diet which results in a decrease in carbohydrate intake and diminished pre event muscle glycogen stores.

Reference : http://www.cptips.com/protein.htm

Need proof that excessive protein consumption does not hurt the body. (5.0stang)

Sat, 17 Mar 2007 20:42:09 GMT

I read on here all the time how a common myth is taking in to much protein and how it can attack the liver/kidney, etc.

If it is a common myth, it must have been disproved somewhere and somehow. Anyone got an article on it?