Advice on DB topics for Severely Overweight ppl? Many questions... help!

RE: Advice on DB topics for Severely Overweight ppl? Many questions... help! (Coop)

Mon, 21 May 2007 23:29:53 GMT

Yeah, I was meaning suger, not like oeros or anything but things high in natural suger... I have pleanty o complex carbs at night...

RE: Advice on DB topics for Severely Overweight ppl? Many questions... help! (danmirage)

Mon, 21 May 2007 20:45:12 GMT

I try to cut the simple carbs before bed to combat this

Well...that is usually a stress hormone issue...unless you eat sugars and then it could be a blood sugar issue.

Eating Carbs releases serotonin...which can help you sleep.
High protein releases dopamine which can wake you up!

RE: Advice on DB topics for Severely Overweight ppl? Many questions... help! (Coop)

Mon, 21 May 2007 20:19:06 GMT

I can eat pretty late with no problems, but the closer to bed I eat, the less quality sleep I tend to get... It seems that I may fall asleep fine but I get a gigantic burst of energy a hour or so later... I try to cut the simple carbs before bed to combat this.. not sure if it works though..

RE: Advice on DB topics for Severely Overweight ppl? Many questions... help! (danmirage)

Thu, 17 May 2007 20:25:36 GMT

How much stock should I put into the whole "you shouldn't eat XX hours before you go to bed"??

Ignore it completely.

How late is "too late" to eat at night before bed before you start doing yourself harm?

Eat every 3 hours you are awake, per your meal plan. If you are up later than usual, thn have a smaller complete meal at a normal interval.

You can eat within 45 minutes of bed...closer than that is also fine but it is possible that sleep or digestion might suffer.

I can eat right up to 20 minutes before bed. Some people really need the 45 minutes because they have a slower digestion or have not yet recovered from GERD or some other "self inflicted" ailment.

RE: Advice on DB topics for Severely Overweight ppl? Many questions... help! (drastic)

Thu, 17 May 2007 20:12:44 GMT

another quick question:

How much stock should I put into the whole "you shouldn't eat XX hours before you go to bed"??

How late is "too late" to eat at night before bed before you start doing yourself harm?

RE: Advice on DB topics for Severely Overweight ppl? Many questions... help! (danmirage)

Fri, 11 May 2007 09:36:49 GMT

ORIGINAL: Coop

Yeah, get the sleep in when you feel you need it, your body will tell you when it is exhausted...

I wouldnt try to get 6/2 each day, more when you feel you need it... There can be times I dont get much sleep at all, but I feel fine, then there are times I can get 9-10 hours and it still isnt enough..

Sorry coop..this is not right. We are talking about the best sleep pattern for recovery and fat loss. That is 8 hours at night +-.

If you feel good it is not an indicator that your fat loss is optimal, just that other chemicals like nor-epinepdrine, dopamine, adrenaline are optimal (which is NOT necessarily optimal for fat loss or recovery.)

Tha body will not tell you when it is tired, it may simply boost you with adrenalin and cortesol...oops. That is why you feel fine coop!!!

When you sleep 9-10 hours, your system gets dopey/sleepy and you feel less rested because you over-slept!

RE: Advice on DB topics for Severely Overweight ppl? Many questions... help! (Coop)

Fri, 11 May 2007 04:39:04 GMT

Yeah, get the sleep in when you feel you need it, your body will tell you when it is exhausted...

I wouldnt try to get 6/2 each day, more when you feel you need it... There can be times I dont get much sleep at all, but I feel fine, then there are times I can get 9-10 hours and it still isnt enough..

RE: Advice on DB topics for Severely Overweight ppl? Many questions... help! (danmirage)

Thu, 10 May 2007 07:01:43 GMT

In short, you want all your sleep at nigh at one time. You also benefit from a nap each day.

The actual amount of time for full recovery can be 8 hours give or take.
This is what is hormonally optimal for recovery and fat loss.

Given your unique situation, do your best!
If it has to be 6 & 2, it will still get you where you want to go!

RE: Advice on DB topics for Severely Overweight ppl? Many questions... help! (drastic)

Wed, 09 May 2007 10:21:34 GMT

oh yeah quick question:

I know I need 8 hours of sleep... would it be OK to do like 6 hours per night, and a 2 hour nap during the day? Or is it best to get all 8 at once overnight?

RE: Advice on DB topics for Severely Overweight ppl? Many questions... help! (Coop)

Mon, 07 May 2007 19:24:23 GMT

Nor have we forgotten about you, I'm sure your in many of our thoughts in hopes of great success..

RE: Advice on DB topics for Severely Overweight ppl? Many questions... help! (danmirage)

Sat, 05 May 2007 08:52:54 GMT

RE: Advice on DB topics for Severely Overweight ppl? Many questions... help! (drastic)

Wed, 02 May 2007 12:22:47 GMT

update coming soon - i havent forgotten about you guys

RE: Advice on DB topics for Severely Overweight ppl? Many questions... help! (Coop)

Tue, 17 Apr 2007 20:10:05 GMT

How goes the progress? Sometimes it helps to keep posting to maintain a focus on this.

RE: Advice on DB topics for Severely Overweight ppl? Many questions... help! (Yet)

Sun, 08 Apr 2007 18:09:50 GMT

This thread really is full of a lot of information. Very well done.

RE: Advice on DB topics for Severely Overweight ppl? Many questions... help! (Marc David)

Fri, 06 Apr 2007 09:35:40 GMT

Awesome thread and full of great advice and tips.

Keep posting Drastic.