Losing Weight

RE: caliper measurements (danmirage)

Sun, 26 Aug 2007 14:21:33 GMT

No, it will drop in a few days. It is activity related. Keep the regular timed meals to spare muscle. Get post workout carbs with the protein for the growth spike...to take advantage of it!

RE: caliper measurements (Berganator)

Sun, 26 Aug 2007 14:05:27 GMT

Well I was completing it in less than 45 min beecause I was doing 15 sec rest. So, now that my metabolism has skyrocketed Im going to try a more basic routine. Will my metabolism stay that high for the following 4 weeks of bulking, thus I'll need to eat around 4000-5000 calories again

RE: caliper measurements (danmirage)

Sun, 26 Aug 2007 08:55:51 GMT

Under 45 minutes. Usually recommends 12-15 sets total per. For the extremely advanced. Must have trained in increasing intensities. Will increase the metabolism significantly. Volume based on recuperative ability.

RE: caliper measurements (Berganator)

Sun, 26 Aug 2007 04:06:03 GMT

I just read it again, he said that it will be like overtraining but for the 8x8 he said that you can do more than 12 sets and he does say that it is 24-32 sets per muscle group. Oh well, I just wanted to try something new, I'll go to more basic gaining mass routines

RE: caliper measurements (danmirage)

Sat, 25 Aug 2007 20:35:52 GMT

If you are doing 8x8 then you are not doing it right. you need to read the WHOLE article to understand the limitations.

You should not be doing that many sets per muscle per workout. That is why you are losing weight.

RE: caliper measurements (Berganator)

Sat, 25 Aug 2007 14:57:19 GMT

Yeah, 24-34 sets per muscle, it was one of the gaining mass workouts in your post. Im still having trouble with calipers, but I did loose fat from my pictures, but still I dont understand why Im loosing weight from week to week with such a high calorie surplus. Im doing 50% carb, 25% prot, 25% fat

RE: caliper measurements (danmirage)

Sat, 25 Aug 2007 01:06:48 GMT

Get the sleep on track.

What is the make-up of that 3700 calories.
What type of weight did you lose?

Im doing the 8 sets of 8 with 3-4 exercises per muscle and 15-30 sec rests.

Are you saying 24-32 sets per muscle group?

RE: caliper measurements (Berganator)

Fri, 24 Aug 2007 23:59:22 GMT

I've been eating 3700 calories, daily which I went up from 3200 and Im still not gaining weigh from week to week. Im doing the 8 sets of 8 with 3-4 exercises per muscle and 15-30 sec rests. Im nervous to jump to 4200 because I dont want to gain fat but in the first 2 weeks I went from 194-183, so I dont know whats going on. I havnt been getting as much sleep as normal however.

RE: caliper measurements (vdk_au)

Fri, 17 Aug 2007 20:31:55 GMT

ORIGINAL: Yet

One thing you can do to boost your condifence. Take a picture of you once a week, the same day about the same time. Label the date and put it in an envelope and don't look at it. Then in 10 weeks look at all 10 pictures to see the dramatic and gradual differences. It'll help you a lot.

Why not take 1 everyday for a whole yr, then staple them together and do a flip book!

RE: caliper measurements (Berganator)

Fri, 17 Aug 2007 20:29:39 GMT

Thank god, so what are the limits.. Also, if I didnt add, in there he added that in 5 years most people hit their genetic max. I was very upset reading this, I had hoped that with my diet of basically all Br. Rice, Fish, Fiber, and solid Fats I would have higher capabilities than only 5 lb a year. Anyhow, thanks for telling me the truth.

RE: caliper measurements (juiyuanwu)

Wed, 15 Aug 2007 23:24:02 GMT

I know theres alot of cutting routines out there, but do you know a specific one thats popular? Like for bulk there is MAX-OT and 5X5, but is there a specific one for cut? Thanks.

RE: caliper measurements (danmirage)

Wed, 15 Aug 2007 11:41:59 GMT

It can, but you are asking for an injury...OT refers to overtraining and if you are depleting calories then recovery is not ideal.

So if you do use it, you have to keep aware of some limitations.

RE: caliper measurements (juiyuanwu)

Wed, 15 Aug 2007 02:45:42 GMT

Oh I see, thanks for the response.
Anybody know if you can also use MAX-OT for cutting? I know its strictly for Bulk, but can it work for cut also?

RE: caliper measurements (danmirage)

Wed, 15 Aug 2007 01:27:16 GMT

Read the gaining mass thread in my sig.

For bulk are you suppose to have more carbs then protein? and cut the opposite? Thanks in advance.

Sort of, yes. Generally the carb:protein is about 2:1 or higher in bulking. You would taper carbs in a cut.

RE: caliper measurements (juiyuanwu)

Wed, 15 Aug 2007 00:34:56 GMT

Hey all, just have a question about macros. I know from everybody it differs from time to time, but what would be the most common setup?

Bulk: 20/60/10? 40/40/20? 50/30/20? 60/30/10?
Cut: 20/60/10? 40/40/20? 50/30/20? 60/30/10?

For bulk are you suppose to have more carbs then protein? and cut the opposite? Thanks in advance.