The first and last successful weight gain journal

RE: The first and last successful weight gain journal (IBendBarbells)

Mon, 09 Jul 2007 10:07:11 GMT

ORIGINAL: twistedlink

well i hope you start benching 315lbs soon, itl feel good using 3 plates eh?

I can max out deadlift on 308lbs, the idea of benching 308lbs is just insane, i doubt il ever have the bone strength to get that strong, thats a super heavy weight man lol.

Unfortunately/fortunately i worked today and im working tommorow and im going out for important uni stuff wednesday so this week sucks for training!

Il try and get in a workout wednesday maybe, thursday and friday most definitely!

I have the feeling I am alot stronger then i think I am.. I will test it out today at the gym.

RE: The first and last successful weight gain journal (twistedlink)

Mon, 09 Jul 2007 09:13:19 GMT

well i hope you start benching 315lbs soon, itl feel good using 3 plates eh?

I can max out deadlift on 308lbs, the idea of benching 308lbs is just insane, i doubt il ever have the bone strength to get that strong, thats a super heavy weight man lol.

Unfortunately/fortunately i worked today and im working tommorow and im going out for important uni stuff wednesday so this week sucks for training!

Il try and get in a workout wednesday maybe, thursday and friday most definitely!

RE: The first and last successful weight gain journal (IBendBarbells)

Fri, 06 Jul 2007 11:13:53 GMT

I should actually be able to hit more now.. I did do 245 6 times just this week and I did it fairly easy.. So my max has to have gone way up. your father did 20lbs more then me for an extra rep. But I was assuming because he did so many sets without all those other sets he can probably do 265 x 10 and max in the low 300's. I only did 185 x 10 215 x 8 and then 245 x 6. so my whole 10 8 6 4 This up coming week I will have to throw on some more and do 4 reps. LoL now you got me wanting to give the 265 a try for reps Although I don't think I will hit it that many times 7 times is pretty damn impressive after he did everything else!

RE: The first and last successful weight gain journal (twistedlink)

Fri, 06 Jul 2007 10:18:43 GMT

Your father may be doing that now but if he goes to the gym for 6 - 7 months straight like my dad I garantee he will be repping 315 on the bench for 10 reps and squatting 305 for reps Possibly deadlifting 405 - 500

lol probably but hes way too busy to go there that many times, he works 7 days a week from 7-3-4 ish depending, then 6-10pm mon-thursday

so he pretty much has hardly ANY free time, and sleeps whenever he gets home where hes so tired.

I just wanted to see where hes at right now

Yeah he stayed at the low 200's because he didnt want an injury, he said his ankle hurt a bit on it, and didnt wanna push it, i mean, if his ankle goes totally-hes out of a job

He did begin to cheat on the curls when he first started but told him to stop, he didnt nessecarily need to cheat on the first set, but he did to make it that much easier i guess LOL.

Overall id say his form was good

curling he was strict on, couldve been stricter, but nothing worth making a lift even 10lbs lighter as it were
squats werent that great, but TBH smith squats are a pain in the ass-literally LOL
deadlift form was excellent, hes been picking things up from the ground for years so he knows how to properly lift heavy stuff from far down

benchpress he was wobbly, but not as much as other new people ive seen.

To be honest i still think 265lbs was 7 reps because that was his max, he didnt struggle at all on 132lbs or 176lbs,only on 220lbs i started to notice the reps slowed down and face more concentrating lol.

He didnt want to max for injury reasons, but if you can push out 280lbs with your benchpresses, im sure his max is probably around the 308-335lbs mark, maybe not quite 350lbs-i dont know lol.

Thing is his job is very physical, so its not as if hes a random joe starting weightlifting, hes been lifting heavy things for years, which is probably why he is strong for a "first timer"

Im sure if i got other 250lbs labourers/plasterers in the gym there figures would be similar too.

RE: The first and last successful weight gain journal (IBendBarbells)

Fri, 06 Jul 2007 10:06:34 GMT

I was not impressed with my father when he lifted for the first time.. But yours did way better then mine!

My old man only hit like 205 1 time... everything else his form freaking sucks he throws his back into everything just to get it up.. But still was not doing any thing close to what I was doing... Now he is fairly strong though.. Your father may be doing that now but if he goes to the gym for 6 - 7 months straight like my dad I garantee he will be repping 315 on the bench for 10 reps and squatting 305 for reps Possibly deadlifting 405 - 500.

Not to mention Alcohol does wear you down I can't drink and go to the gym in the same day or I do horrible. He only did 265 so little time because he was tired from all of the other sets.. I think he was just keeping it light and working with the 200 - 225 because he did not want to get injured. Not to mention he does not have balance yet.

there are plenty of body builders who do anything to get the weight up on the barbell curls they also use their back.. I don't, but many others do especially when it comes to the last few sets.

RE: The first and last successful weight gain journal (twistedlink)

Fri, 06 Jul 2007 09:42:58 GMT

knees slightly, but mainly his left ankle (i think its left lol)

TBH the deadlifts werent surprising, ive seen him lift up things at work ive estimated to be 400 odd lbs, so i knew he would be able to deadlift in excess of 350lbs, because it is a bar-better grip, and he can do more weight with worse grip.

squats he didnt like LOL-which is fair enough, he hasnt got small legs per se (i dont know his stats, theyre not uge legs, but theyre pretty big) and i thought hed be able to do more than 220lbs, i guess not, i used to be on 220lbs for 10 reps, and my legs are much smaller

benchpress i am also surprised, i thought hed be able to do more personally, but 265lbs for 7 reps isnt exactly bad for the FIRST time hes done it in his life EVER, he was slightly wobbly, but not as bad as most new benchers, guess as his job hes used to controlling things etc.

Barbell curls im also surprised with, hes lifted me with one arm before when i was 140lbs, but admittedly-he used bodyweight and back too, so i guess thats why.

As to the ankle-it only hurts when he stops moving or puts too much weight for too long periods of time, thats why he can deadlift a tonne but cant squat much (under constant pressure)

he tried sumo, but he has long legs (dads family height comes from the legs, were bottom long) and he kept hitting his knees, and couldnt keep his back straight, as soon as i set him onto SLDL's-he was happy and repping lol

I guess for his first workout its ****ing impressive, but i honestly thought he was stronger, we had been plastering for like 7 hours solid before this though, so that mightve weakened him

If im honest i was expecting a good 308lbs benchpress for 8-10 reps
400-500 deadlifts and
308lbs squats

But hey, that would be pretty insane for a first timer, i still think hes the strongest guy i know

even the big dudes at the gym were thinking "wtf"

even better when i mentioned it was his first time, HAHA, theyve been training for years to have 265lbs maxxes, and hes there repping it 7 times first go ROFL.

RE: The first and last successful weight gain journal (IBendBarbells)

Fri, 06 Jul 2007 09:14:30 GMT

ORIGINAL: twistedlink

lol it certainly does, im never giving up again, itl keep on going!

Guess who's workout this is?

Bench:
132lbs x 10
176lbs x 10
220lbs x 10
245lbs x 10
265lbs x 7

Deadlift (SLDL)
132lbs x 10
176lbs x 10
245lbs x 10
308lbs x 10
360lbs x 10

Squat (smith)
132lbs x 10
176lbs x 10
220lbs x 9
200lbs x 10
220lbs x 10

Barbell bicep curl
100lbs x 10
120lbs x 10
140lbs x 8
160lbs x 6
170lbs x 2

Thats your daddy.. I know because you said he has problems with his legs I think you said knees or something? His squats have to be controlled on a smith and he does not use much weight.

His upper body you say is pretty damn big and it would have to be to do that many sets with that kind of weight on the bench and also a 170lb barbell curl thats insane! His max is probably around 335 - 350 no doubt.

I am going to assume you said it was his knees that were the problem because he still did a crap load of weight on the stiff leg deadlifts.

RE: The first and last successful weight gain journal (twistedlink)

Fri, 06 Jul 2007 08:39:47 GMT

lol it certainly does, im never giving up again, itl keep on going!

Guess who's workout this is?

Bench:
132lbs x 10
176lbs x 10
220lbs x 10
245lbs x 10
265lbs x 7

Deadlift (SLDL)
132lbs x 10
176lbs x 10
245lbs x 10
308lbs x 10
360lbs x 10

Squat (smith)
132lbs x 10
176lbs x 10
220lbs x 9
200lbs x 10
220lbs x 10

Barbell bicep curl
100lbs x 10
120lbs x 10
140lbs x 8
160lbs x 6
170lbs x 2

RE: The first and last successful weight gain journal (grantoiz)

Fri, 06 Jul 2007 06:14:46 GMT

i dont no about your loves life, but you certainly deserve the good body building side of life! youve been consistant even when in the past it seemed you wernt going any where. Just shows persistance pays.

RE: The first and last successful weight gain journal (twistedlink)

Wed, 04 Jul 2007 17:04:32 GMT

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The only thing getting me down is that my life is rocking so much right now, the only thing that can happen now is bad stuff, anymore good stuff will just keep the rockiness to the same level.

RE: The first and last successful weight gain journal (twistedlink)

Wed, 04 Jul 2007 16:57:54 GMT

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RE: The first and last successful weight gain journal (twistedlink)

Wed, 04 Jul 2007 14:31:48 GMT

haha yeah im glad youre off that stuff now, its nice to see your gains arent slowing down either and that youre still getting more shredded!

did you say your friend who changes grips was shredded too?

our sample size is now 3, when you train differently each time with speeds/grips/sets/reps you lose fat or have low fat lets try and bump that sample size up! lol.

RE: The first and last successful weight gain journal (IBendBarbells)

Wed, 04 Jul 2007 14:14:18 GMT

I steadly went off of the injections last week I gained my strength in the past 2 weeks the beginning weeks I could not get much stronger but my weight did go up.. As far as getting lean I did all those core work outs while juicing because I knew it was going to shed the fat off there is no possible way im going to lose muscle while injecting.

But yeah with the new routine I have noticed major success not only in strength but adding quality muscle. If anything right now I should be just starting to lose strength... But that does not seem to be happening.

Oh one more thing!! the last picture of myback was taken like 2 - 3 weeks ago.. The new picture I have is shreded now.. its only been 2 weeks which is the same time I have been using the routine.. Sure my gains are amped but god damn that much of a change in BF% in only 2 weeks along with the lean mass gains in certain areas of my body.

RE: The first and last successful weight gain journal (twistedlink)

Wed, 04 Jul 2007 13:43:19 GMT

yeah 132lbs is feeling a lot lighter lately, i dont know whether to quite keep to 155lbs yet, i can see where youre coming from though, dont make the muscles use less or theyl get used to less and i wont gain strength or maintain-but lose.

Thing is i dont know if these figures will stay, i know im definitely on 143lbs, but sometimes i have fantastic bench days and then next time im tonnes weaker and go back to normal lol.

But i will still try out 155lbs, il probably do one set of 132lbs, if i hit an easy 10-il do 155lbs, if i do a medium 10-143lbs a hard 10-somethings gone very wrong lol.

I wont be doing varying grips until my current regimen screws up...thing is i havent really been sticking to it lately...10-6-3-6-10 worked well while doing it, but right now ive just been doing 3-5 sets of whatever i can do...hence the random numbers...

It doesnt appear to be doing anything negative in my training, but i know its only temporary and my body will get used to it, as soon as the strength and weight gains start slowing down, il try your varying grips for bench deadlift and some other compound movements.
Then once that has run dry il try vdk's HST

If you want to see progress from other routines-post them up, il do them lol, i really do just wanna do as many routines as i can to see what theyre like

right now im thinking most routines are worthy of doing and most gain size and strength, the reason they fail for some people is stagnation and poor diet, im keeping my body on its toes and keep going high reps low reps with different sets and different speeds and its just going "wtf is going on here?" and i dont know if its a sign of "stress" but quick fatloss happens when your body is stressed a lot mentally and physically...so maybe changing up this many times sheds bodyfat too??

I know youre injecting IBB but have you noticed since youve been varying workout styles the past 10 weeks you have become a lot leaner too?

I reckon its keeping the body having to stay at optimum working because each attack is different.

RE: The first and last successful weight gain journal (IBendBarbells)

Wed, 04 Jul 2007 11:39:03 GMT

Thats alot of body parts in one day. did you also try changing up your grip on each movement? Yet keeping your same routine?

Your about as strong as I was after I had left bootcamp in the military.. I was 155lbs though... But your lower body is where I was last year. Your coming along so well its really impressive. Once you get to 185 or soo Not sure what that is in KG You may be able to get to 205 pretty fast. I would set a goal for 205 right now. One more thing.. .It seems you have dominated the 135lbs.. So now warm up with only the bar on there just to get the joints warmed up.. Then! Only work with 155lbs and don't go below it. Know what I am saying? Thats pretty much what I did once I hit 185lbs I never went below 155 - 165lbs I use to work out with 135lbs Now its just a simple movement to warm up my joints.. It feels like there is no weight on the bar.