Julio Castilla

RE: Julio Castilla (8pack)

Sat, 19 Jun 2004 22:55:44 GMT

Hey mda..nice one...the thingy under your posts

RE: Julio Castilla (GoalKeeper7486)

Sat, 19 Jun 2004 17:53:48 GMT

Yes, I again state that I agree that injury should always be avoided if possible. I also believe that through my gym experience, I have seen many people give a half assed effort, and I know they can do better, because you see them act serious for a second, then stop, go talk to friends, come back 15 min. later, try it again and decide they've finished their workout for the day. Given this, anyone I see, or come in contact with, I will push them to do as much as they can WITH OUT INJURY. Maybe I wasnt making myself clear in my previous posts when I said you shouldnt lift the weight if you fell your going to hurt yourself, if I didnt make it clear then, I hope I just have now. 60 Lbs for a newbie on a deadlift, a lift that you use multipule joints in doing it, in a month is reasonable, in fact if not more so because they have just started out. I know when I started out, I could only bench 185, a few weeks later I was at 200, and by a few I mean about 3. And that was just 15 Lbs I know, not 60, but it was also a bench, not a deadlift. On the average person, their legs are the strongest part of their body, makes sense since we use them every day, so newbies have their whole life up until now to have formed their legs, not so much or the chest, tri's or delts. I dont have my beginning records for deadlift, but I'm sure as a newbie I was lifting heavyier weights than I could have imagined a few weeks after beggining. Now of course, a month or so after I leveled out and had a more steady progress. I guess the moral of my entire point all together is, dont hurt yourself, but dont be afraid to push yourself as well, dont cheat yourself out of weight you could be lifting because your afraid, just give it a shot, and if you cant do it, then by god, you have a new goal to work for.

RE: Julio Castilla (cpl)

Sat, 19 Jun 2004 10:50:21 GMT

I definitely see your point of view when it comes to motivation- Of course, we all need it- But no one needs injuries. You said you've injured yourself along the way- What if one of those injuries had done permanent damage and took you out of the game altogether? I'm not trying to criticize you personally, you've obviously done great things for yourself (Still waiting to see pics, btw) but I can't agree with any advice given that could lead to injury. Some people, when they first start out, just aren't capable of lifting 200 pounds, period. Since they don't have the experience of what a good lift should feel like, they could easily end up hurting themselves- Perhaps they have strong legs, but their lower back isn't up to it- So they get the weight halfway up, and then their back gives. Another variable kicks in- You said that you've been back to lifting weights after a day's rest from an injury- But everyone heals at different rates too. There's no way to know how an individual's body, especially someone you've never even seen in person, will be able to handle different amounts of stress. What might mean a slight injury for you might cripple someone else for the rest of their life. What works for you, could be harmful to others. Sure, lifting heavy weights is the best way to build size and strength, but you have to agree that for most people, getting the proper form down and then adding weight when you get a better idea of what you can handle is the smartest way to do it.

RE: Julio Castilla (Marc David)

Sat, 19 Jun 2004 08:53:21 GMT

I'm actually gonna have to give you props for that post Goalkeeper. It was insightful and I got the point. Had I not done the Max-OT program that forced me to push myself, I guess I wouldn't be as big or strong either. I'm just glad I had a few years of training behind me so that I knew form was important when pushing some serious weight.

RE: Julio Castilla (GoalKeeper7486)

Fri, 18 Jun 2004 23:12:19 GMT

Cpl, I agree that saftey is important, there no if an's or buts about that one, and for a newbie, yeah, it may be even more important. What I'm saying is, picture yourself going to go deadlift 800 Lbs, mind over matter, if you believe that you can do it, you just might surprise yourself. So you go to lift, and without putting any strain into your back or legs, you easily figure out theres no way you can lift the weight, and so ok, you stop, and keep taking weight off until you find what you can max out on. As I stated before, even a newbie would know that, if its the first time you've tried it, and it hurts, stop doing it, if we didnt believe that everyone in the weight lifting world didnt know this, we would be insulting their intellegence level. Persoanlly I hate it when people tell me the obvious when I try something new. And the reason I told him to go for 200 Lbs in a month is simply motovation, I remember when I first started out my oly motovation was seeing kids bigger than me, now I go to my gym and I've been to Golds as well (very easy to sneek in there...lol), I still havent found anyone as big as me, in person that is, of course any Pro Bodybuilder is bigger than I am, but depending on who they are, I come pretty damn close...lol. But basicaly I want this kid to feel that if he pushes his hardest, he can lift the weight, when I took 405 Lbs off of my chest and locked my arms out in front of my weight training class 3 days before school ended, setting a new school record, I felt like a freekin' god..lol, I atually was asked to sign autographs because I have a lot of people who believed I can go all the way to Mr. Olympia. I want to give anyone the oppertunity to fell that great, and if that feeling can be achieved by lifting massive ass weight in a sort amt. of time by someone who hasnt lifted for that long, then I'm going to motovate him, keep saftey in mind, but also look at your goals, and do whatever it takes to achieve them. When I dead lifted 700 Lbs for the 1st time, The big ass muscle right behind the shoulder blade, the scapula something, tore. I was pissed off and in constant pain, it even hurt to breath, but you know what, I took a one day rest, and was right back in the gym lifting the same weight then as I did before, eventually after about 2 weeks all of the pain went away, I went to shrug 875 Lbs, got it 3 times, on the third rep, I tore the same damn muscle, but on the other side... I was in pain, but laughed my ass off, but thats just the kind of person I am, I know what I want to be in life, and nothing is going to stop me from the disipline it takes to become it. Sometimes my advice may not seem 100% crystal clear to some people because most would look at me and call me a fool, and say I'm very lucky I didnt really injure myself seriously, of course I know when to quit, if I hurt a muscle, I will bite through the pain and continue to lift, but if I feel that a bone or ligament is in trouble, I'll stop right then and there, because I'm not sacrificing more than a days rest from lifting. I just like to offer my opinion I guess, to each one there own would be the best way to put it I think. Well anyway, Shism2, if you don't think you can put up the weight, try it anyway, BUT, if you realize that when you try it, you cant do it, dont hurt yourself, push yourself as far as you possible can without causing injury, now how far is that, I have no clue, for every person its different, I found out the hard way, but have no regrets really, goodluck in gaining as much strength as humanly possible, Cpl... love the critisizm homie Keep it real.

RE: Julio Castilla (cpl)

Fri, 18 Jun 2004 15:33:44 GMT

Whats the harm in trying to deadlift 200 Lb anyway, if you cant do it, you find out very quickly,

The harm could lay in the fact that some people, when they're starting, simply don't have the necessary strength and/or experience to properly lift that much weight, and could end up injuring themselves. This is why, on this site, we try to educate beginners with safety in mind- Sure, everyone wants to move up in the amount of weight they can lift, but the smart thing to do is to get proper form down first- Even if you're just using an empty bar- And then add weight slowly to avoid injury.

RE: Julio Castilla (GoalKeeper7486)

Fri, 18 Jun 2004 12:41:20 GMT

A month is plenty of time if you work out and give everything you have, Whats the harm in trying to deadlift 200 Lb anyway, if you cant do it, you find out very quickly, and you go back to what you did before, its not like you need to be spotted on a deadlift or anything, if you cant do it with proper form using more legs than back, then stop trying, you ant do it, anyone with common sense should know that, even a newbie.

RE: Julio Castilla (cpl)

Thu, 17 Jun 2004 03:14:52 GMT

you cant stick with that panzy bar forever,

Don't tell me you think a standard bar can't hold that much weight too, goalkeeper.
Shism, keep safety in mind. Don't go trying to lift more than you should be lifting- Sure, the amount of weight you'll be able to lift will keep going up and up- But don't try to do anything your body's not ready for. Make sure you've got the proper form and all that down before you try deadlifting 200 in a month just because someone here mentioned it in a post- Deadlifting 200 is an entirely reasonable goal, goalkeeper- But a month might not be enough time for him to get there.

RE: Julio Castilla (GoalKeeper7486)

Wed, 16 Jun 2004 22:43:50 GMT

Bro, seriously, get a gym membership, you cant stick with that panzy bar forever, in a few weeks you should be able to do well more than that on bench, and ur deadlift should be able to push 200 in at least a month as long as you work out correctly. Remember that strength traing is a crap load different than Bodybuilding training. You should be doing one rep max outs or two rep max outs, each core exercise, those being the bench, the squat, the deadlift, and the power clean. If a gib curl means something to you, do the same max out thing with those. each exercise should be done in the same workout, probably only taking 30-45 minutes depending upon how long your break are. Each workout should be done once every 2 weeks. If your a person who got into weights because you love to lift, and want to do it often, then strength training is not for you, the 2 weeks in between lifting is time for your mucles to gain all the strength they could. Well goodluck, let us all know how your strength program comes along.

RE: Julio Castilla (shism2)

Fri, 11 Jun 2004 16:03:55 GMT

I did some dead lifts and saw I could do probably around 140 mostly because the left side of my lowerback started hurting so Im not ready for that weight right now.

The bar can hold 130 pretty good. Tommorow Ima try 140.

My Goal is to reach 150 bench for now... Then 150 deadlift

RE: Julio Castilla (8pack)

Fri, 11 Jun 2004 15:12:16 GMT

tell us how it goes

RE: Julio Castilla (8pack)

Fri, 11 Jun 2004 15:12:00 GMT

well try, you'll feel it if it doesnt feel right

RE: Julio Castilla (shism2)

Fri, 11 Jun 2004 13:55:38 GMT

why?

RE: Julio Castilla (8pack)

Fri, 11 Jun 2004 13:28:21 GMT

I dont think that such a good idea

RE: Julio Castilla (shism2)

Fri, 11 Jun 2004 09:22:55 GMT

Really??? ummmm Ima try putting more weight then