Havoc/Epistane PCT

RE: Havoc/Epistane PCT (laxmasta101)

Sat, 16 Jun 2007 15:08:27 GMT

nvm

RE: Havoc/Epistane PCT (toolman4052)

Fri, 15 Jun 2007 23:59:14 GMT

ianthegreat, did you ever log your cycle?

RE: Havoc/Epistane PCT (LakeMountD)

Sat, 03 Feb 2007 17:16:59 GMT

ORIGINAL: KiDnGo

It's amazing that people still don't know how to pct, not mention on-cycle therapy... do your research before tapping into something like this.

SERM (Cl, Nolv) (post)
AI (6-OXO, Formadrol XT, Novadex-XT, Rebound Reloaded, Inhibit-E, Aromastin Rx) (post)

Multivitamin (on and post)
Liver Support - Liver-X, Perfect Cycle, Liver Detoxifier (on and post)
Milk Thistle (on and post)
Red Yeast Rice (on and post)
Hawthorne Berry (on and post)
Policosanol (on and post)
Saw Palmetto or Soy Isoflavons (on and post)
Taurine & Bananas galore for back-pumps (on and post)
NAC (on-cycle)
Fenugreek (post)
COQ-10 (on and post)
Fish Body Oils (on and post)
Pantothenic Acid (Vitamin B-5) for oily skin (on and post)
SesaMax (Sesamin) (on and post)
5-HTP (on cycle - optional for mood support)

*EDIT it would be a good idea to preload a lot of these on cycle supplements for about a week prior to starting any cycle.

Creatine for post cycle to retain gains
Cytogainer is probably the best gainer to take while on cycle because it has tons of potassium in it which will help with fatigue, back pumps, cramping, etc.

Avoid all alcoholic beverages and tylenol while on cycle.

You need to consume a minimum of 4-5k calories a day and not ****ty ones. If you can't force yourself to eat that much look into Controlled Labs' Black Hole product which helps with this.

Do months and months of research and make sure this is your last option.

Totally agree with you. The only recommendation I want to add to this is Anabolic Innovation's Cycle Support!! Heart/Lipid/Liver/Prostate supps all in one easy to use powder :). Tastes good when added into protein/milk too! Much better than buying 8 diff bottles of pills lol. Here is the breakdown:

1 serving:
Red Yeast Rice 1200 mg (lipid support)
Silymarin (milk thistle extract) 1000 mg (liver support)
NAC 1200 mg (liver support + all around body support)
Hawthorn Berry 1000 mg (heart support)
Saw Palmetto 300 mg (prostate support)
Policosonol 20 mg (lipid support)
Celery Seed Extract 150 mg (heart support)
Nettle Root 250 mg (prostate support)
Idebenone 100 mg (lipid support)

RE: Havoc/Epistane PCT (KiDnGo)

Sat, 03 Feb 2007 17:00:40 GMT

It's amazing that people still don't know how to pct, not mention on-cycle therapy... do your research before tapping into something like this.

SERM (Cl, Nolv) (post)
AI (6-OXO, Formadrol XT, Novadex-XT, Rebound Reloaded, Inhibit-E, Aromastin Rx) (post)

Multivitamin (on and post)
Liver Support - Liver-X, Perfect Cycle, Liver Detoxifier (on and post)
Milk Thistle (on and post)
Red Yeast Rice (on and post)
Hawthorne Berry (on and post)
Policosanol (on and post)
Saw Palmetto or Soy Isoflavons (on and post)
Taurine & Bananas galore for back-pumps (on and post)
NAC (on-cycle)
Fenugreek (post)
COQ-10 (on and post)
Fish Body Oils (on and post)
Pantothenic Acid (Vitamin B-5) for oily skin (on and post)
SesaMax (Sesamin) (on and post)
5-HTP (on cycle - optional for mood support)

*EDIT it would be a good idea to preload a lot of these on cycle supplements for about a week prior to starting any cycle.

Creatine for post cycle to retain gains
Cytogainer is probably the best gainer to take while on cycle because it has tons of potassium in it which will help with fatigue, back pumps, cramping, etc.

Avoid all alcoholic beverages and tylenol while on cycle.

You need to consume a minimum of 4-5k calories a day and not ****ty ones. If you can't force yourself to eat that much look into Controlled Labs' Black Hole product which helps with this.

Do months and months of research and make sure this is your last option.

RE: Havoc/Epistane PCT (LakeMountD)

Thu, 01 Feb 2007 14:11:20 GMT

ORIGINAL: any1uno

Curious to see what the epistane reviews are. Do you have any testimonials yet?

There are a bunch on www.i b e f o r u m s . com . Go to Dr.D's Corner then go to the Epistane section and you can read a lot of testimonials :).

RE: Havoc/Epistane PCT (any1uno)

Thu, 01 Feb 2007 13:17:28 GMT

Curious to see what the epistane reviews are. Do you have any testimonials yet?

RE: Havoc/Epistane PCT (LakeMountD)

Wed, 31 Jan 2007 14:13:35 GMT

ORIGINAL: animalman

I ordered 2 from Island Supps and shipping was $6. I can't wait.

We sent out their order a couple days ago so Island should have them soon. They are a GREAT company!!

RE: Havoc/Epistane PCT (animalman)

Wed, 31 Jan 2007 13:44:02 GMT

I ordered 2 from Island Supps and shipping was $6. I can't wait.

RE: Havoc/Epistane PCT (LakeMountD)

Fri, 26 Jan 2007 07:24:50 GMT

1

ORIGINAL: njmuscle66

Yes-they are lower than everyone I use on ALOT of stuff. Have to bang you for shipping charges heavy or something I suppose

Haha I promise you it isn't that bad. They have 3 brick and mortar stores and I believe one more is coming. The owners seem really cool though.

RE: Havoc/Epistane PCT (njmuscle66)

Fri, 26 Jan 2007 06:42:31 GMT

Yes-they are lower than everyone I use on ALOT of stuff. Have to bang you for shipping charges heavy or something I suppose

RE: Havoc/Epistane PCT (LakeMountD)

Thu, 25 Jan 2007 18:40:41 GMT

Yeah I couldn't believe they put it that low. It is a distributor though and they can do with it as they please. We have the MSRP at 59.99.

Actually I was linked to this forum and didn't even realize this was a store, though it was just a forum based on the name lol.

RE: Havoc/Epistane PCT (njmuscle66)

Thu, 25 Jan 2007 18:27:54 GMT

Interesting that you put it at that price point. I mean 20 less than the other. I don't know what the forum rules are about posting linking to other retail sites.Others here might though

RE: Havoc/Epistane PCT (LakeMountD)

Thu, 25 Jan 2007 15:56:29 GMT

http://www.bestpricenutrition.com/store/brands.asp?BRAND_ID=194

FINALLY, we have Epistane available and he actually put the price on it lower than what we were selling it for during our sale lol. $34.99. Havoc sells for 54.99 and it is the same thing as well.

RE: Havoc/Epistane PCT (LakeMountD)

Tue, 23 Jan 2007 14:08:20 GMT

:D its cool. Heck there are compounds out there with greater than 10,000% anabolic value compared to test., unfortunately the androgenic value is near the same haha and I wouldn't advise taking that one ;).

ORIGINAL: jram

It's OK by me. Just thought 1100% was a bit high. But, I guess you must know field.

RE: Havoc/Epistane PCT (jram)

Tue, 23 Jan 2007 10:32:22 GMT

It's OK by me. Just thought 1100% was a bit high. But, I guess you must know field.