http://www.discussbodybuilding.com/(c) DiscussBodybuilding.com30 Thanks for the suggestion. I bought the N'Gorge before I made that original post, so I just when ahead and used it. I have been using it now for over a week with Nitrobolic Extreme. When I train I take 4caps of N'Gorge in the morning , and 2caps N'Gorge w/ 1 scoop of Nitrobolic about 30min before I go to the gym. I have noticed difference, although it seems I feel more apathetic to the world. Like I dont a give **** about talking with people. Can anyone relate to that feeling who is taking nitro and creatine, ester or mono? Any feedback is appreciated. http://www.discussbodybuilding.com/fb.ashx?m=195259Sat, 28 Oct 2006 17:43:26 GMT Go with something better. It's around 30-35 bucks for pretty much just CEE and the NO matrix is severly under dosed. Look into Omega's Cre-ethyl thunder, DS's Xceed, or just get Primaforce's CEE in capsules if you want pure CEE product in pill form. http://www.discussbodybuilding.com/fb.ashx?m=193670Mon, 23 Oct 2006 14:50:41 GMT I just started working with a trainer and she was telling me about a creatine supplement known as N'Gorge. I did some research on it and it sounds likes it the latest innovation for creatine and NO mix. It is in pill form rather than a drink mix. Has anyone tried it and done a full cycle with it? Thanks for replys, Peace. http://www.discussbodybuilding.com/fb.ashx?m=192603Thu, 19 Oct 2006 18:54:40 GMT