Z's Optimum Anabolic Journey!

RE: Z's Optimum Anabolic Journey! (gzinkl)

Fri, 24 Nov 2006 05:23:52 GMT

ORIGINAL: grantoiz

wow, just saw your latest picture. I remember seeing your pic in your other journal you've made loads of progress awesome

THANKS!!!!!!!!! Made my day!!

RE: Z's Optimum Anabolic Journey! (grantoiz)

Thu, 23 Nov 2006 13:35:27 GMT

wow, just saw your latest picture. I remember seeing your pic in your other journal you've made loads of progress awesome

RE: Z's Optimum Anabolic Journey! (gzinkl)

Thu, 23 Nov 2006 06:45:47 GMT

ORIGINAL: Coop

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Is it a wrong feeling that now I live to workout and be well, shouldnt it be the other way around?

BTW does this thread actually hit your blackberry? Is it actually 3AM GMT?

Not when you're in the building phase!!!!! Hmm, I think I posted at 10:30 my time. But yeah, if the crackberry is on, it's gettin' these messages. How else can I stay in touch with my dbb.com buds?!?

RE: Z's Optimum Anabolic Journey! (Coop)

Thu, 23 Nov 2006 02:22:59 GMT

Your the man to do it... just get your head into it and outa the law stuff....

Is it a wrong feeling that now I live to workout and be well, shouldnt it be the other way around?

BTW does this thread actually hit your blackberry? Is it actually 3AM GMT?

RE: Z's Optimum Anabolic Journey! (gzinkl)

Wed, 22 Nov 2006 20:33:04 GMT

ORIGINAL: Coop

Z.... your freakisness is coming to light much faster than mine is and that is darn right frusterating... the least you can do is acknowledge that

Dude! Let's review. How long have you been working out? how many pounds have you lost, how much lean muscle gained and how much has your strength increased? You are WAY WAY WAY ahead of me in the progress department. Meanwhile, I started in very late 2004/early 2005. It's taken this long to figure something out--after hundreds of dollars spent researching and learning, a personal trainer, gym memberships, supplements and food. I've been through two injuries, one of which took almost a year to heal, and together they knocked off 9 months of serious lifting, and then let's not forget my studying for the *&^%% bar and the emergency appendectomy that happened 4 weeks before the stupid exam.

It's been a long time in coming. I hope it keeps coming!

And Brett, thank you for the mandate! Ok ok ok, I'll work on "becoming" a hottie (although my partner asked me about this "becoming" thing . . . ). Partner also said no shaving, but he doesn't have the last word! bwahahaha! The plan is to pile on as much muscle as I can figure out between now and March-ish, and then cut like a mad man. I'm hoping to have some serious mass to help stoke the cutting fires.

RE: Z's Optimum Anabolic Journey! (Coop)

Wed, 22 Nov 2006 16:34:13 GMT

Z.... your freakisness is coming to light much faster than mine is and that is darn right frusterating... the least you can do is acknowledge that

RE: Z's Optimum Anabolic Journey! (rippedchick)

Wed, 22 Nov 2006 14:37:28 GMT

Word. Shaving is key. Ask cpl I give him crap for it all the time.

RE: Z's Optimum Anabolic Journey! (veggeep)

Wed, 22 Nov 2006 14:15:45 GMT

Here we go again... Don't even TRY that humility crap on me, Bub! You know I have no reason to B.S. you. You're talking to a photog.

There is obvious improvement there -lighting or no.

I'm actually quite amped up about this now. I wanna see you bust the fat burning engine wide open and melt off that so-called "blubber". You have almost the exact same build as my brother. I watched him go from 270-something down to 210, and the difference is mind-boggling. If I could just convince him to ditch his lame-brained starvation tactics and get serious about a strategic approach, he's be ripped as all get out.

Right now, you and he are at almost exactly the same level of buffitism. I wanna see you take this all the way. I want to see you crank up that tan, dial in the BF%, and SHAVE!

You have a mandate to be a hottie. Get on it!

RE: Z's Optimum Anabolic Journey! (rippedchick)

Wed, 22 Nov 2006 13:45:28 GMT

That's ok that your abs don't show. You're on a bulk, they're not supposed to. Nice delts though and good luck with that 5k. Don't get down on yourself because I couldn't run a 3 miles in my current shape either. There's a really cool program for beginners running a 5k called couch to 5k if you haven't heard about it.

RE: Z's Optimum Anabolic Journey! (gzinkl)

Wed, 22 Nov 2006 12:51:45 GMT

You guys are hysterical. It's a combination of a good angle and soft lighting (and yes, I've been tanning, per the naughty (and relatively scarce) kitty). Thanks for the positive comments! It will get my ass in the gym today!

BTW, no abs, sorry coop. They are quite a bit stronger, so I imagine there's actually something under there now (crunching 45#'ers--woof! woof!). But there's a good layer of blubber there. Rats.

RE: Z's Optimum Anabolic Journey! (veggeep)

Wed, 22 Nov 2006 07:14:28 GMT

Dude. Holy shazbot is RIGHT!

You have no idea how close you are to beefcakitude. I see you took the kitty's advice RE the complexion (or maybe it's just the lighting -not sure). Either way, keep it up. Tanning is to physique-improvement as reduction is to graphic illustration. It conceals distractions, and "tightens everything up".

I'm seeing some significant pec definition piling on there. It looks, from this photo, like there's already enough mass lurking there to make a sick presentation as you continue to dial in the BF%

I better not hear anymore of this Bravo Sierra about "quitting" from you! Not when you're THIS close. Trust me, you are standing on the brink of an event horizon -incremental progress does slow down over time, but the cumulative effects can accellerate in ways that may surprise you.

RE: Z's Optimum Anabolic Journey! (Coop)

Wed, 22 Nov 2006 06:45:42 GMT

ORIGINAL: gzinkl

ORIGINAL: rippedchick

So why don't you stay on the program and do it for your own personal gains and not for the competition and keep the thread open?

Oh, I'm all about personal gains. I started the contest to be able to pay of those pesky tax guys (j/k).

I'm on a bulking cycle through the Spring, when I'll start cutting and training for a short race (5K-yeah yeah yeah, it's not much, but I personally do have to train for it). I've already chosen the programs I want to do for this bulking cycle. I also think they will help me be ready for something like OA. So, I might try OA during the cut--I need to re-review Jeff's book, but I think you can manipulate your calories for a cut with the routine.

Anyway, for the curious, here's a current pic. Sorry it's so fuzzy. (I might be sucking my gut in a little, I don't remember--taken 09/23/2006).

[image]local://4037/9C012537C3914A549E747DF358452430.jpg[/image]

HOLY SHAZBOT Z, looking very very good! Is that some major abbage I see there?

Your Sig other must be getting nervous of your improvments and you having to beat people off with a stick!

RE: Z's Optimum Anabolic Journey! (gzinkl)

Wed, 22 Nov 2006 05:49:36 GMT

ORIGINAL: Lynx100

Woah Greg!

Talk about packing on some meat!

Youve put on some mass! You look a fair bit wider and those shoulders are coming along nicely.

Sure the definition might be there but when you are bulking, you can expect that.

I dont see any reason you should quit when your making nice progress such as this!

That's from hypertrophy-specific training (HST), my reduced version.

The program is set up on 2 week cycles, with a total of 3-4 cycles. 1st cycle--15 reps, working up to your 15-rep max by the end of the cycle; 2nd--10 reps, working up to your 10 rep max; and 3rd cycle--5 reps, working up to your 5 rep max. Alternative 4th cycle is 5 reps with negatives. The number of sets/body part is 1-3, lifting frequency is 3X/week. (or 6X if you do an a.m. and p.m. session). I modified it to 2X/week, with only one set for each body part (full body routine each time) for the first three weeks, and then in the last week of the 2nd cycle, I would alternate doing two sets for each body part for half the routine. I'm in the 5-rep stage, and am alternating 2 sets with 3 sets. It's all about building up ability for me right now--OA taught me that. My legs have grown 0.5", even my stubborn calve (my right one with the goofy birth "defect" has put on 0.25", while my left leg has shot up 0.5"), my chest has put on probably around 0.5", and my guns maybe 0.2". I'm not losing any fat, although I was lax on my diet for a couple of weeks--I've also been going through some adjustment there.

Diet--I was reading The Omnivore's Dilemma, and dang, it made me want to repudiate the products of industrial agriculture. So, as best I can, I'm now selecting products that result from sustainable agricultural practices--grass-fed, free range beef (which coincides with antibiotic-free, hormone-free), pastured chickens (not so-called "free-range" which turns out *sigh* to be a scam), pastured chicken eggs (man, are those yolks YELLOW, and much more viscous all over), pastured lamb (MUCH tastier than the usual stuff in the market), humane pork (I don't think a pig cares what the hell it eats, but it does mind how it croaks), grass-fed milk products (amazing), raw milk cheeses (yum yum yum) etc. The upside is that it turns out these foods are much better for us health-wise (especially the beef, which fat content begins to look more like fish than commercial beef), and quite tasty. The downside is it's more expensive, and being a city dweller, gotta order it through the mail (although where I order from has a $7.50 flat fee for shipping)--oh yeah, and I can get eggs only 6 dozen at once!!

RE: Z's Optimum Anabolic Journey! (Lynx100)

Wed, 22 Nov 2006 05:28:56 GMT

Woah Greg!

Talk about packing on some meat!

Youve put on some mass! You look a fair bit wider and those shoulders are coming along nicely.

Sure the definition might be there but when you are bulking, you can expect that.

I dont see any reason you should quit when your making nice progress such as this!

RE: Z's Optimum Anabolic Journey! (gzinkl)

Wed, 22 Nov 2006 04:52:18 GMT

ORIGINAL: rippedchick

So why don't you stay on the program and do it for your own personal gains and not for the competition and keep the thread open?

Oh, I'm all about personal gains. I started the contest to be able to pay of those pesky tax guys (j/k).

I'm on a bulking cycle through the Spring, when I'll start cutting and training for a short race (5K-yeah yeah yeah, it's not much, but I personally do have to train for it). I've already chosen the programs I want to do for this bulking cycle. I also think they will help me be ready for something like OA. So, I might try OA during the cut--I need to re-review Jeff's book, but I think you can manipulate your calories for a cut with the routine.

Anyway, for the curious, here's a current pic. Sorry it's so fuzzy. (I might be sucking my gut in a little, I don't remember--taken 09/23/2006).

[image]local://4037/9C012537C3914A549E747DF358452430.jpg[/image]