http://www.discussbodybuilding.com/(c) DiscussBodybuilding.com30 Just finished the bootle like 2 weeks or so ago and I loved it, 30 min before workout and felt awsome.  Im going to take it again after my surgery. Highly recommend it. http://www.discussbodybuilding.com/fb.ashx?m=148070Mon, 19 Jun 2006 13:34:53 GMT yeah its good, its a good pre workout supp that supplies lots of energy, mental focus and dulls feelings of fatigue, its great for getting those extra few reps http://www.discussbodybuilding.com/fb.ashx?m=148066Mon, 19 Jun 2006 13:30:28 GMT Anybody tried the 17-HD product??  if so how is it? http://www.discussbodybuilding.com/fb.ashx?m=148038Mon, 19 Jun 2006 12:53:52 GMT