Cutting Time

RE: Cutting Time (danmirage)

Sun, 07 May 2006 22:51:56 GMT

Im gonna get back on schedule tomorrow.

See, thats what its all about.

Don't sweat the small stuff.

RE: Cutting Time (Vario)

Sun, 07 May 2006 19:31:47 GMT

Im switching over to a tricep centric push day instead of chest centric, hopefully Ill have similar arm results.

Im gonna get back on schedule tomorrow.

RE: Cutting Time (danmirage)

Sun, 07 May 2006 18:07:18 GMT

GZ <--- your time is coming!!!

I pretty much messed up 2 days of progress.

Naaa...a few days of not so perfect eating are ok..your body is more efficient than you think!

Just get yourself back on target!

RE: Cutting Time (Vario)

Sun, 07 May 2006 17:05:27 GMT

Being at home today has really ****ed up my diet. Parents dont seem to understand what I am doing. I pretty much messed up 2 days of progress.

I will resume my regular diet tomorrow when I can go and shop for leaner foods.

RE: Cutting Time (gzinkl)

Sun, 07 May 2006 16:19:42 GMT

ORIGINAL: danmirage

I am also cutting and my arms are still getting bigger...I just passed over 16" and I can see the top 4 easy and now dimples in the bottom 4 are showing.

<---insanely jealous!

RE: Cutting Time (danmirage)

Sun, 07 May 2006 11:23:34 GMT

I have been jogging 20 mins or powerwalking 30 mins, before breakfast a few days a week. Is this a good idea? I take a whey shake before I begin the morning cardio. I lift in the late afternoon/night if it makes a difference.

The am cardio is ok. Look at the shake, if it has carbs in it then it is screwing you up. Just take BCAAs.

It is even more effective if you do it after your lifting when the glycogen is all used up and you are warmed up! Lifting no longer than 45 minutes and total lifting+cardio together not to exceed 75 minutes!

The idea is to have to use fat! Keep the heartrate in the lower zones or do intervals.

I have about 20 days before my job starts. Should I keep cutting

It turns out I have been cutting for 17 days (BUT I had a 5-day intesnive business trip after 5 days of cutting) but only 12 real days.

I probably only have 8-10 more days of cutting before I am off to another intensive business trip. That will give me 20 days cutting total and it is not enough to get the full 8 pack...maybe enough to get a 6 pack...my stomach circumference measure has dropped over an inch in the 12 days of cutting...I let myself get too much fat in this last bulking period to drop it in 20 days. I was ambitious!

I am not willing to lose any muscle in this cut otherwise I could drop twice as much!

I am sort of stuck with higher carb/fat meals now that I am home.

Makes it harder to cut effectively unless you take in only as much protein as you need, trim visible fat, get the majority of your carbs from veggies, only eat quality carbs, avoid added fats, and make the body use that fat for energy!

Remember, if you are taking in slightly fewer calories than you expend, are taking care of muscle and are keeping the fat burning mechanism stoked...you are going to lose it!

Arms are a little less than 1/4" smaller, not sure if its a result of less glycogen or fat or if I am burning muscle :(.

Hmm..high protein (water losses) low/moderate carbs (muscle glycogen and water losses)

I guess you have to go by the way you look and feel!

I am also cutting and my arms are still getting bigger...I just passed over 16" and I can see the top 4 easy and now dimples in the bottom 4 are showing.

I have a dig camera on the way, so I will be able to share at last!

RE: Cutting Time (Vario)

Sun, 07 May 2006 09:01:10 GMT

Im down to about 166 lbs. Stressful exam week meant I lost more weight than I wanted.
Arms are a little less than 1/4" smaller, not sure if its a result of less glycogen or fat or if I am burning muscle :(.

Upper abs are visible.

Now that I am home from college, I have about 20 days before my job starts. Should I keep cutting, or should I bring calories to maintenance and just up my cardio? (I finally have time to run).

I have been jogging 20 mins or powerwalking 30 mins, before breakfast a few days a week. Is this a good idea? I take a whey shake before I begin the morning cardio. I lift in the late afternoon/night if it makes a difference.

I am sort of stuck with higher carb/fat meals now that I am home.

RE: Cutting Time (Vario)

Wed, 03 May 2006 12:22:52 GMT

Ya my tri's and chest are a bit smaller. Strength is about the same but can't do as many reps or sets from less carbohydrates.

Ive been doing lower carbs on off days (like a ballpark of 65 g fat, 200g carb, 300 g protein)
and higher carbs on lifting days (like a ballpark of 70 g fat, 300-350 g carbs, 300 g protein)

Protein is a bit high but I am using it as a calorie source.

Typically 2400 calories on off days, 2800 on gym days.

RE: Cutting Time (danmirage)

Wed, 03 May 2006 12:06:50 GMT

Sounds good...remember, if you are carb depleted then you will lose water and look leaner from that also.

RE: Cutting Time (Vario)

Wed, 03 May 2006 12:01:32 GMT

I am now around 169 lbs.

And a 4 pack is visible when I flex.

Seems to be going ok. Not sure about muscle loss but my pumps arent nearly as good (less glycogen I guess).

RE: Cutting Time (danmirage)

Sun, 23 Apr 2006 14:32:46 GMT

Mostly the body responds predictably.

However, you have to understand what it does to predict what it will do. Other than studying, trial and error on yourself is a great way to learn..every body chemistry is a bit different..and once you get that figured out you can fine tune it!

RE: Cutting Time (Vario)

Sun, 23 Apr 2006 13:31:25 GMT

DM, the knowing and controlling one's metabolism is exactly why I am cutting now when I should probably be bulking. I want the experience and the ability to see how a clean bulk should proceed this coming fall.

Thanks for the responses.

RE: Cutting Time (danmirage)

Sat, 22 Apr 2006 23:06:35 GMT

Lean protein
Starchy Carb
Fibrous Carb

That is a supportive meal.

1.- Is it Ok to eat 1 yogurt (mixed with oats, whey and 1 orange) as breakfast

Lean protein = whey
Starchy Carb = oats
Fibrous Carb = orange

while cutting it is NOT optimal...Some people are more sensitive to fruits than others. The fructose can store readily as fat...but you can see how you respond..if you are having trouble losing..then you know what to do!

and low fat cottage cheese before bed?

As long as you get
Lean protein
Starchy Carb
Fibrous Carb

Is it ok to have 2 pieces of fruit (1 orange and 1 apple) a day usually mixed with oats?

As long as you get:
Lean protein
Starchy Carb
Fibrous Carb

How about some wholemeal bread? is it ok a couple of slices a day?

Again not optimal..remember, bread is processed. Any time YOU did not process it in the body..it is not optimal. ALso look at the label. It is Enriched wheat flour...in which case it is fake.

Whole meal bread will say..oat flour, wheat flour..etc listing whole meals!

Actually my trainer/nutritionist at the gym just recommended high quality clear vodka and cran as a good way to get drunk and not cheat too badly at all on your diet... he says very little of high quality clear hard alcohols transfers into sugars or something or other... yay!

Alcohol..is absorbed through the stomach wall into the blood. No matter what color it is. Alcohol is a sugar (a simple sugar..a simple carb) with 7 calories per gram. When that hits the blood...in rushes insulin....fat gets locked in, low blood sugar, ...etc etc...

Save it for the cheat day!

Hey Dan, how does one "temporarily cut"? (in your signature)

Oh, well, my metabolism is optimized and so I am tweaking my program to drop around 8 pounds of fat in 4 weeks...after which I will return to bulking (thus "temporary")

Once you learn (and you will) to know and control the metabolism..you can do whatever you want with it.

RE: Cutting Time (gzinkl)

Sat, 22 Apr 2006 16:08:34 GMT

Oh no! When to do with all the Newcastles in the fridge!!!!!! Maybe if I carb deplete for a month or two . . .

Hey Dan, how does one "temporarily cut"? (in your signature).

RE: Cutting Time (KiDnGo)

Sat, 22 Apr 2006 15:54:48 GMT

Actually my trainer/nutritionist at the gym just recommended high quality clear vodka and cran as a good way to get drunk and not cheat too badly at all on your diet... he says very little of high quality clear hard alcohols transfers into sugars or something or other... yay!