damn this is hard

RE: ECA Stack (neumann1379)

Wed, 09 Aug 2006 12:53:13 GMT

thanks man...i got it up (not literally hahahahah)

RE: ECA Stack (danmirage)

Wed, 09 Aug 2006 12:34:13 GMT

oh ok...no way in hell i could do that...my a$$ would pass out on the spot.

but you can imagine people doing those mammoth muscle busting workouts who are not on performance enhancers would need the whole week to recover the muscle.

Its not the most optimal way to train.

how do i start a thread?

Go to the particular forum area you want and select New Post at the top.

RE: ECA Stack (neumann1379)

Wed, 09 Aug 2006 12:00:57 GMT

oh ok...no way in hell i could do that...my a$$ would pass out on the spot. how do i start a thread?

RE: ECA Stack (danmirage)

Wed, 09 Aug 2006 11:57:48 GMT

No No...more like doing 20 sets per bodypart!

RE: ECA Stack (neumann1379)

Wed, 09 Aug 2006 11:52:37 GMT

when you say past the point of diminished returns..does that mean til failure...cuz basically thats what I'm doing.

RE: ECA Stack (danmirage)

Wed, 09 Aug 2006 11:39:18 GMT

tues, thurs, sun - I'm doing back, shoulders, legs. 6 days a week cardio and 5-6 abs....too much?

Depends on the volume per muscle group and total time per day.

I was talking to some other people and they said they lift 6 days a week but only hit the same body part once a week. That just doesn't seem right to me.

Yes, thats a whole mindset but not necessary...the thing is if these people are going to overload the muscle past the point of diminished returns then they need to let the recovery happen over a longer period.

Some of the most important things are progression (periodization) and proper diet.

Creatine is good. good the 5-6 meals a day in. They will be smaller. Make Better food choices. Save the beer for a cheat day 1-time a week. try to do better than last week every week. Don't worry about perfection. Try to understand what perfection looks like then see what you can do to inch closer to it!

I'm hoping this sh!t works for me.

The right training and diet works for everyone! (Except for people with certain health issues)
you should see noticeable changes-progress every 3 weeks. If you don't then check in and work to find out why you don't see progress!

Start a new tread in the training section or journal section with your whole routine with all the specifics...plus all cardio, supplements, and your diet meal by meal...PM me and i will check it for you!

First - go read those threads and make a plan!

RE: ECA Stack (neumann1379)

Wed, 09 Aug 2006 11:28:13 GMT

awesome. thanks man. I'm hoping this sh!t works for me. I'm just worried that I'm gonna swell up and look like an umpa lumpa. I got kind of a beer gut right now...and creatine helped me stop drinking beer(except on saturday). I guess we'll just wait and see. Hey also, as it is I'm working out 6 days a week. mon, wed, fri I'm doing arms and chest
tues, thurs, sun - I'm doing back, shoulders, legs. 6 days a week cardio and 5-6 abs....too much? I was talking to some other people and they said they lift 6 days a week but only hit the same body part once a week. That just doesn't seem right to me. you got any input? Thanks for your help

RE: ECA Stack (danmirage)

Wed, 09 Aug 2006 11:13:25 GMT

It matters. Muscle is the place in the body where fat is burned. More muscle means faster fat burning.

Build muscle first. You will start to lose fat and get leaner.

I actually lost fat faster than I gained muscle in the beginning.

RE: ECA Stack (neumann1379)

Wed, 09 Aug 2006 11:08:48 GMT

I've got a pretty good diet routine going right now...so I'm not too concerned about that. One thing though...as it is I'm 6'5" 280..I'm a pretty big boy...and by big I don't mean muscle (yet).....Should I not try to bulk up so much now and just worry about toning down and try to lose weight before I pack on a bunch of muscle. Or does it really not matter?

RE: ECA Stack (danmirage)

Wed, 09 Aug 2006 10:24:43 GMT

Chromium plays a very small role in blood sugar maintenance.

Creatine and protein was probably the key added to a good training program and optimal diet.

http://www.discussbodybuilding.com/For_Gaining_Mass/m_111173/tm.htm

RE: ECA Stack (neumann1379)

Wed, 09 Aug 2006 10:18:09 GMT

my buddy took chromium for about 3 months while him and I were working out and he was losing fat and putting on muscle mass...also taking creatine and protein. figured I'd give it a shot too. No...no diabetes

RE: ECA Stack (danmirage)

Wed, 09 Aug 2006 10:09:20 GMT

I don't know what the chromium is for in that - do you have type 2 diabetes?

Anyway, thats all fine!

RE: ECA Stack (neumann1379)

Wed, 09 Aug 2006 10:01:19 GMT

hey you guys I have a quick question. Is it a bad idea to take chromium and creatine and protein? Thanks

RE: ECA Stack (danmirage)

Wed, 09 Aug 2006 09:55:49 GMT

Hey Dog..what ever hapened with the cut!?

RE: ECA Stack (ninjaman89)

Sun, 02 Apr 2006 13:42:37 GMT

Just eat more. Probably alot more. Follow dans plan and you will be set. The more you eat the higher your metabolism goes. I would think with all that exercise you are getting your body has to be starving!