A serious problem!

RE: A serious problem! (danmirage)

Thu, 09 Feb 2006 14:09:25 GMT

i have no clue y some of u are affected, and im not.

It's your superior genetics.

RE: A serious problem! (Veritas)

Thu, 09 Feb 2006 13:39:36 GMT

ive been taking cellmass for over 1 year, no problems what so ever. i also have been training about 7-9 times a week, and some times deprive myself of sleep(im a dumbass). i have no clue y some of u are affected, and im not.

RE: A serious problem! (Superman)

Thu, 09 Feb 2006 04:46:02 GMT

Nah, its easy, go to Xpand :)

RE: A serious problem! (MajorLiftage)

Thu, 09 Feb 2006 04:37:14 GMT

its dat mummy dawg, u take a hit and ur like uhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh.

RE: A serious problem! (veggeep)

Wed, 08 Feb 2006 14:03:29 GMT

HA HA HA HA HA!!!

Like Tom Waits once said, "I'm so g**damn horny, the crack of dawn better look out for me!"

RE: A serious problem! (danmirage)

Wed, 08 Feb 2006 13:38:32 GMT

Veggeep, don't you listen to him though, even though I personally don't like dogs, I worry about yours!
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RE: A serious problem! (ShaqAtack)

Wed, 08 Feb 2006 10:41:12 GMT

Well right. But what I'm trying to do is not allow anyone to make an excuse for not working as hard as they can. So I'm saying, instead of reducing workload and sets necessarily (depending upon how many they actually do), look upon increasing meal frequency, pre and post workout meals, increasing protein via powder at the right times, increase glutamine, and purchase anabolic agents (arginine, IGF-1, various plant sterols) to help raise anabolic hormones which increase protein synthesis and decrease protein degradation, which allows for even more intense training.

The symptoms of overtraining are caused by lack of discipline in the diet, and not eating clean. And then because they don't feel good, they ease up on their training. It takes discipline to always stay anabolic, but that's what needs to happen to train intensely for the best results.

RE: A serious problem! (danmirage)

Wed, 08 Feb 2006 09:12:31 GMT

"Overtraining" and "under-recouperation" (including diet and frequency) are analogous.

RE: A serious problem! (ShaqAtack)

Wed, 08 Feb 2006 08:54:33 GMT

The moment you start exercising you exhaust your body's supply of glutamine which affects your immune system and yes, your sex drive. You need to replace the glutamine much more frequently than creatine. Don't be fooled by Glutamine being called unessential. Think of it this way. It is SO essential that your body has to make it itself so it has enough! It will use other amino acids (including the BCAA's which make muscle) just to make glutamine. Glutamine builds up and strengthens your intestine where much of your immne system resides. And ANY strenuous exercise takes gluatmine out of the musles and out of the intestine to try to supply it back to the muscles and so you become sick even if you're not really overtrained. I've found the three most essential supplements for any bodybuilder are:

1. Whey Protein Isolate Powder
2. Free Form L-Glutamine Capsules
3. Anabolic Agents (things to increase your body's circulating anabolic hormones, which are hopefully legal!)

Meal frequency also plays a huge role. The duality that needs to be addressed in bodybuilding is catabolic processes (breaking down muscles) and anabolic (building it up). In the morning you are extremely catabolic, so you must have protein drink upon rising, L-Glutamine, and also some whole grain cereal and fruit or some such (you can have your eggs and stuff at the next meal). It has been found that protein drinks will be used for fuel not muscle repair if you don't eat carbohydrates with it.

From that meal thereafter, you need to eat good whole food meals or protein shake/glutamine/anabolic agents every 2 hours to reduce catabolism.

In your meal plan the biggest thing that can possibly be addressed is pre and post-worktout nutrition. Think about it. What alters the body's homeostasis the most from every day life? Intense workouts! That is what disturbs the equilibrium, so you need a flood of ALL nutrients IMMEDIATELY after a workout. Also if you know you're going to intensely stress the body with weightlifting, it's wise to also prepare your workout by having easily digested carbs and protein BEFORE the workout too (honey and protein drink).

If you workout with weights, unless you do something your body is going to LOSE muscle because the process of weightlifting is a catabolic process. That's just the way it is, UNLESS you prevent catabolism from even occuring, and deal with it immediately after you finish training by consuming all the glutamine, protein (you should get 1 g per pound of bodyweight), simple carbs, and minerals.

There is so much that has to be done in order to stay anabolic it's no wonder that bodybiulders, who consistently train intensely, often have problems with their immune system. You need grams and grams of glutamine to counteract this. The immune system's primary food is glutamine. Glutamine loss, overall protein deficiency, and mineral deficiency, is the principle cause of overtraining symptoms. You're probably not even overtraining unless you're doing a ridiculuous amount of sets. You just need to pay more attnetion to avoiding catabolism.

RE: A serious problem! (veggeep)

Wed, 08 Feb 2006 07:48:09 GMT

So if overtraining can adversely affect your sex drive, then I must be undertraining. To borrow an analogy from Naviator, for hours after a workout, I'm so horny, even my DOG hides from me. Perchance I should venture out and find more suitable prey than my shower drain to "sic the tiger on", LOL.

Seriously -asside from the obvious positive, this is a good thing, right? Like, it means I've got a tanker truck full of testosterone floatin' around in my veins, right? How closely does libido correllate to testosterone production anyway?

RE: A serious problem! (Che)

Wed, 08 Feb 2006 05:43:00 GMT

ORIGINAL: Mr. Bold

I have been working out for about 6 months. And past 3 months, I have been taking Creatine (2 tsp per day) and I have been seeing great results too. But the problem is, my sex drive is getting lower by day. I don't know if this is the proper place to ask this question or not... I have talked to some other folks who use Creatine and none of them experienced this from Creatine.

p.s. I am only 19 years old.

Mr. Bold im taking cellmass and im having the same problem...i dont know if its the cellmass or my over training...or if its psicologic...

RE: A serious problem! (RomeoCiaffoneo)

Tue, 07 Feb 2006 18:27:07 GMT

overtraining

RE: A serious problem! (envilent)

Tue, 07 Feb 2006 17:41:46 GMT

yea man that does suck

RE: A serious problem! (UGAFreak)

Tue, 07 Feb 2006 17:25:22 GMT

wow that sucks....*mental note* "DO NOT OVERTRAIN!" lol

RE: A serious problem! (Maverick_777)

Tue, 07 Feb 2006 17:04:56 GMT

Ya dude, I noticed the same problems when I over worked. Gotta let those muscle re-build. You didn't exactly imply that you've been worked out constantly but it sounds to me like you are over training.