realistic goal for benchpress?

Hello,

I'm 19, about 190lbs. My current 1rpm is 143lbs. I only started lifting about ~2mo ago when my 1rpm was 88lbs!

How realistic is it for me to be able to get to 200-225lbs within 6 months? I know it's totally depending on how hard I work,etc - I take 5g creatine daily and train 3 times a week for a total of 10hours (8 of those hours are at boxing)

Just wondering if anyone thinks this is realistic, as I've got a $100 bet on with someone? :)

2 plates (225lbs) is definately a reasonable goal in 6 months.  the 100$ can easily be yours... however, you are going to have to train your fast twitch muscle fibers.

the way you do this is you pick a weight you can lift 4 - 6 times... and you do around 3 sets of flat bench with that weight.

keep doing this weight every workout day until you find yourself hitting 8-9 reps..  this is a good thing.   now you add more weight (to where you can lift it 4 to 6 times again) and keep training.  the weight will keep shooting up and you should be able to hit 225 if you train this way

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2 plates (225lbs) is definately a reasonable goal in 6 months.  the 100$ can easily be yours... however, you are going to have to train your fast twitch muscle fibers.

the way you do this is you pick a weight you can lift 4 - 6 times... and you do around 3 sets of flat bench with that weight.

keep doing this weight every workout day until you find yourself hitting 8-9 reps..  this is a good thing.   now you add more weight (to where you can lift it 4 to 6 times again) and keep training.  the weight will keep shooting up and you should be able to hit 225 if you train this way

i agree but more importantly get your diet in line otherwise you wont gain anything

Checked tonight and my 1rpm is actually 154lbs now.

Anything other than creatine I should be taking? my mates says to take Myoplex but it's really expensive - worth the money?

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Checked tonight and my 1rpm is actually 154lbs now.

Anything other than creatine I should be taking? my mates says to take Myoplex but it's really expensive - worth the money?

yep. like soccerking said.. make sure you're getting the proper ratio of protein/carbs/fat when you eat.   and EAT ALOT!  

as for the myoplex.. let your friend waste money on expensive stuff, and just get some whey protein.  you need 1 serving BEFORE working out.. and then more within 30 minutes AFTER You lift.

and breakfast should be your biggest meal of the day.  i always feel like i'm going to throw up after i eat breakfast. but it's all good.

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Listen to him diet is very important you need eat. Don't rely on supplements to get it either your main source of energy should be from whole foods. Personally I agree on the whey being very effective for a workout shake. So whey is all you need as in supplements. The rest of the day should be whole foods which gets consumed slower. The workout shake mixed with fast acting carbs is best everything else slower consumed whole foods!!!

Thanks for the replies. I just managed to haggle 1KG Whey and 200g creatine for $20.

1 serving before and more afterwards? So like 70g whey protein each workout day?

So ~300g a week

ORIGINAL: glasgowm

Thanks for the replies. I just managed to haggle 1KG Whey and 200g creatine for $20.

1 serving before and more afterwards? So like 70g whey protein each workout day?

So ~300g a week

correct.  you want to get at LEAST 1 g of protein/ lb of bodyweight JUST TO MAINTAIN.   and to gain muscle you need 1.2 - 1.5 g / lb

however.. this doesn't mean that you should be drinking 5 or 6 protein shakes a day.   remember... you need to get MOST OF YOUR calories, protein, carbs.. ETC. from solid food.

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Benching 165lbs now 1rpm. Eating lots of beans/fish/vegetables/fruit etc - cut out all snacks (crisps,biscuits,etc) and fast-food.

Just wondering - will doing pushups every night help me or work against me when trying to hit 225lbs 1rpm

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Benching 165lbs now 1rpm. Eating lots of beans/fish/vegetables/fruit etc - cut out all snacks (crisps,biscuits,etc) and fast-food.

Just wondering - will doing pushups every night help me or work against me when trying to hit 225lbs 1rpm

I think push ups will help, certain thing is if you do them every night its gonna work against you, keep em for ur workout days

My 5x5s as of November 2nd 2008.
Squat 155lbs
Bench 155lbs
Deadlift 155lbs

Connelly's 5x5s as November 2nd 2008
Bench 115
Squat 145
Deadlift 165

Andy11's 5x5 as November 2nd 2008
Bench 150
Squat 150
Deadlift 175

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Benching 165lbs now 1rpm. Eating lots of beans/fish/vegetables/fruit etc - cut out all snacks (crisps,biscuits,etc) and fast-food.

Just wondering - will doing pushups every night help me or work against me when trying to hit 225lbs 1rpm

I think push ups will help, certain thing is if you do them every night its gonna work against you, keep em for ur workout days

i disagree i would do a few sets on non workout days to promote blood flow to the muscles and facilitate the healing process

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Benching 165lbs now 1rpm. Eating lots of beans/fish/vegetables/fruit etc - cut out all snacks (crisps,biscuits,etc) and fast-food.

Just wondering - will doing pushups every night help me or work against me when trying to hit 225lbs 1rpm

I think push ups will help, certain thing is if you do them every night its gonna work against you, keep em for ur workout days

i disagree i would do a few sets on non workout days to promote blood flow to the muscles and facilitate the healing process

wouldn't it kill the process more than promote it? i'm probly gonna do this then!

My 5x5s as of November 2nd 2008.
Squat 155lbs
Bench 155lbs
Deadlift 155lbs

Connelly's 5x5s as November 2nd 2008
Bench 115
Squat 145
Deadlift 165

Andy11's 5x5 as November 2nd 2008
Bench 150
Squat 150
Deadlift 175

well you shouldnt go to failure or do a crazy amount, maybe 4 sets of 15, nothing hard or taxing just to get blood moving and into the muscle.  I do this quite a bit if i have a heavy squat/leg day the next is chest for example i will at the end of the workout do a few really light sets of squats.

alrighty then

My 5x5s as of November 2nd 2008.
Squat 155lbs
Bench 155lbs
Deadlift 155lbs

Connelly's 5x5s as November 2nd 2008
Bench 115
Squat 145
Deadlift 165

Andy11's 5x5 as November 2nd 2008
Bench 150
Squat 150
Deadlift 175

4 sets of 15 could be light to you but to others it can be a "workout". Best to clarify that a bit for some people who might pass by it lol.

Just do a couple that just gets the blood flowing or so. I personally don't do it yet, instead I try to use the rest days as to stretch. Squat stretchs for example is good, glute activation exercises and shoulder dislocations are also great!!!

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Thanks for the replies. I just managed to haggle 1KG Whey and 200g creatine for $20.

1 serving before and more afterwards? So like 70g whey protein each workout day?

So ~300g a week

correct.  you want to get at LEAST 1 g of protein/ lb of bodyweight JUST TO MAINTAIN.   and to gain muscle you need 1.2 - 1.5 g / lb

however.. this doesn't mean that you should be drinking 5 or 6 protein shakes a day.   remember... you need to get MOST OF YOUR calories, protein, carbs.. ETC. from solid food.

at first I thought this was per week but after looking up how much protein is in some stuff I'm assuming it's per day? As I've had 100g protein today already and it's only 4pm

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Thanks for the replies. I just managed to haggle 1KG Whey and 200g creatine for $20.

1 serving before and more afterwards? So like 70g whey protein each workout day?

So ~300g a week

correct.  you want to get at LEAST 1 g of protein/ lb of bodyweight JUST TO MAINTAIN.   and to gain muscle you need 1.2 - 1.5 g / lb

however.. this doesn't mean that you should be drinking 5 or 6 protein shakes a day.   remember... you need to get MOST OF YOUR calories, protein, carbs.. ETC. from solid food.

at first I thought this was per week but after looking up how much protein is in some stuff I'm assuming it's per day? As I've had 100g protein today already and it's only 4pm

yea.. it's per day. not per week.
 
and your post reminded me that it's time for a snack since i haven't eaten in a while

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Benching 165lbs now 1rpm. Eating lots of beans/fish/vegetables/fruit etc - cut out all snacks (crisps,biscuits,etc) and fast-food.

Just wondering - will doing pushups every night help me or work against me when trying to hit 225lbs 1rpm

I think push ups will help, certain thing is if you do them every night its gonna work against you, keep em for ur workout days

I have to disagree with you there. Pushups will not work against you. One of my coaches has been doing 500 pushups,dips, and situps everyday for 20+ years. He has 21 inch arms. So I don't think that pushups would hurt. Oh, and he can bench 405.

Old Lifts: Bench-335, Squat-455, Deadlift-495
New lifts: Bench-375, Squat-545, Deadlift- 585

Strongest 17year old on DBB

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Benching 165lbs now 1rpm. Eating lots of beans/fish/vegetables/fruit etc - cut out all snacks (crisps,biscuits,etc) and fast-food.

Just wondering - will doing pushups every night help me or work against me when trying to hit 225lbs 1rpm

I think push ups will help, certain thing is if you do them every night its gonna work against you, keep em for ur workout days

I have to disagree with you there. Pushups will not work against you. One of my coaches has been doing 500 pushups,dips, and situps everyday for 20+ years. He has 21 inch arms. So I don't think that pushups would hurt. Oh, and he can bench 405.

hes been training for 20+ years. thats why he has 21'' arms. not because he does 1000000 pushups a day.
(not trying to be a dick, i see what your saying but if he said jump off a bridge to get 21's would ya do it?)

"A severed foot is the ultimate stocking-stuffer" "Obsession is what the LAZY use to describe dedication" "You put your faith in Christianity. I put mine in artillery"

i think you also have to work on your shoulders as well. if you dont have decent shoulders you arent going to be able to press 225 no matter how strong your chest is. I also think you are experiencing "rookie gains" right now. i dont kno how long they are going to last but dont expect them to be constantly climbing at that speed forever. As for your goal, 60-65 pounds in about 5-6 months is do-able but your are going to have to constantly push yourself. try getting your hands on some "no-xplode". that might be able to give you that extra edge towerds the end if you havent reached your goal yet.

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Thanks for the replies. I just managed to haggle 1KG Whey and 200g creatine for $20.

1 serving before and more afterwards? So like 70g whey protein each workout day?

So ~300g a week

correct.  you want to get at LEAST 1 g of protein/ lb of bodyweight JUST TO MAINTAIN.   and to gain muscle you need 1.2 - 1.5 g / lb

however.. this doesn't mean that you should be drinking 5 or 6 protein shakes a day.   remember... you need to get MOST OF YOUR calories, protein, carbs.. ETC. from solid food.

at first I thought this was per week but after looking up how much protein is in some stuff I'm assuming it's per day? As I've had 100g protein today already and it's only 4pm

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Thanks for the replies. I just managed to haggle 1KG Whey and 200g creatine for $20.

1 serving before and more afterwards? So like 70g whey protein each workout day?

So ~300g a week

correct.  you want to get at LEAST 1 g of protein/ lb of bodyweight JUST TO MAINTAIN.   and to gain muscle you need 1.2 - 1.5 g / lb

however.. this doesn't mean that you should be drinking 5 or 6 protein shakes a day.   remember... you need to get MOST OF YOUR calories, protein, carbs.. ETC. from solid food.

at first I thought this was per week but after looking up how much protein is in some stuff I'm assuming it's per day? As I've had 100g protein today already and it's only 4pm

 
whatch how much protein you are talking in. i wouldnt go crazy with it. if i take more that 2 scoops at a time more than twice a day it messes with my stomach. i think 100grams is the most you should be getting from protein powder. try getting the remaining grams from food.

 

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Benching 165lbs now 1rpm. Eating lots of beans/fish/vegetables/fruit etc - cut out all snacks (crisps,biscuits,etc) and fast-food.

Just wondering - will doing pushups every night help me or work against me when trying to hit 225lbs 1rpm

I think push ups will help, certain thing is if you do them every night its gonna work against you, keep em for ur workout days

I have to disagree with you there. Pushups will not work against you. One of my coaches has been doing 500 pushups,dips, and situps everyday for 20+ years. He has 21 inch arms. So I don't think that pushups would hurt. Oh, and he can bench 405.

hes been training for 20+ years. thats why he has 21'' arms. not because he does 1000000 pushups a day.
(not trying to be a dick, i see what your saying but if he said jump off a bridge to get 21's would ya do it?)

I asked yesterday how long it took him to get to that size he said about 5 years. He got 20inch arms after about 2.5 years. That is damn impressive even if you worked out with weights.

Old Lifts: Bench-335, Squat-455, Deadlift-495
New lifts: Bench-375, Squat-545, Deadlift- 585

Strongest 17year old on DBB

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ORIGINAL: glasgowm

Benching 165lbs now 1rpm. Eating lots of beans/fish/vegetables/fruit etc - cut out all snacks (crisps,biscuits,etc) and fast-food.

Just wondering - will doing pushups every night help me or work against me when trying to hit 225lbs 1rpm

I think push ups will help, certain thing is if you do them every night its gonna work against you, keep em for ur workout days

I have to disagree with you there. Pushups will not work against you. One of my coaches has been doing 500 pushups,dips, and situps everyday for 20+ years. He has 21 inch arms. So I don't think that pushups would hurt. Oh, and he can bench 405.

hes been training for 20+ years. thats why he has 21'' arms. not because he does 1000000 pushups a day.
(not trying to be a dick, i see what your saying but if he said jump off a bridge to get 21's would ya do it?)

I asked yesterday how long it took him to get to that size he said about 5 years. He got 20inch arms after about 2.5 years. That is damn impressive even if you worked out with weights.

wow, i guess im the asshole here. (not being sarcastic)

"A severed foot is the ultimate stocking-stuffer" "Obsession is what the LAZY use to describe dedication" "You put your faith in Christianity. I put mine in artillery"

keep up the good work man, i hate how small i am so i go up slower than a lot of other people.