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raiden's training journal need help!!!! - 7/11/2007 9:56:44 AM
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raidendavidb
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Hi,
If you don't know already I joined DBB recently. I'm 15 years old between 162-168lbs right now (I'm an ectomorph), 6'1-2 and have been training ever since I was about 11 when I started doing Kung-fu and playing more sports. I used to only do dumbell bicep curls, chin ups, elevated press ups and crunches. That got me fairly strong and defined for my age, but I never ate enough healthy food to gain much muscle. Now I don't do any martial arts but I play a lot of soccer and other sports in school.
I want to seriously bulk now though so I'm starting this journal, hopefully in a few weeks time I'll be able to follow Twisted's program.
I am on a low budget with no supps yet and my mum doesn't give me enough extra food to gain muscle continuously which is why my weight fluctuates a lot. I don't have a bench yet or access to one and the weights I do have are limited to around 70lbs total, I prefer dumbell exercises as my barbell form is crap. After I buy new weights and hopefully a new bench I'll be able to buy more food and cheap supplements.
all weights shown are not including the weight of the bar
10 July 07 Tuesday
I was very busy and it was late so I only did tricep kickbacks, my triceps are tiny so 15lbs takes them to failure, I lift the weight and hold for 2 seconds before completing the rep. (I'm a newb to most excersises I still don't know half of them)
tricep kickbacks
1 set of 10 at 5lbs
1 set of 10 at 10lbs
3 sets of 10 at 15lbs
I also do single tricep extensions.
Will put what I ate and my workout later today.
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RE: raiden's training journal need help!!!! - 7/11/2007 2:52:55 PM
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raidendavidb
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11 July 07 Wednesday
bicep dumbbell curls
1 set of 20lbs 10 reps
2 sets of 30lbs slow 10 reps
2 sets of 30lbs fast 12 reps
I ate two egg mayo sandwiches brown bread, 1litre of milk, 2litres of water, 2 large jacket potatoes with tuna and sweetcorn.
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RE: raiden's training journal need help!!!! - 7/11/2007 4:50:56 PM
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70lbs might work for now
barbells add serious size and strength, the reason you might not be good is because youre not used to them, just lower the weight and stick to it, in a month or so youll notice massive strength gains.
I can barbell curl 70lbs at 6'0" 167lbs, so your same weight and a tad taller, so in thoery you could get that too.
If thats an entire days food-youve got a problem, but thats better than nothing-or junk food, like i said, just save up and go for a job asap, after the initial wait (which can be unbearable) you can unleash the major diet.
And assuming you took long to save it all up, i doubt youll throw the money away on a crap diet, id assume youd be very serious about what money goes where-which is certainly nice to know as diet is important, just stick with it and youll get there in the end.
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RE: raiden's training journal need help!!!! - 7/12/2007 10:09:22 AM
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110lbs still isnt much, seriously, in a couple of months you'll be benching/squatting/deadlifting over that.
Getting past 110lbs for the big 3 lifts is easy (apart from bench for me haha).
Most people can squat and deadlift a good 176-200lbs even midway through general training, theyre big muscles.
Ever thought about training in a gym? They do student discounts too, but yeah, school sucks, i love summer because its tonnes of free time just to work-out and get better gains.
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RE: raiden's training journal need help!!!! - 7/12/2007 10:24:20 AM
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I can't go to a gym to weight lift till I'm 16 and yes I bench, squat and deadlift more than 110lbs with ease but I will buy a few heavier weight plates eventually though not sure how long that will take.
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RE: raiden's training journal need help!!!! - 7/12/2007 10:58:24 AM
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quote:
ORIGINAL: raidendavidb
I can't go to a gym to weight lift till I'm 16 and yes I bench, squat and deadlift more than 110lbs with ease but I will buy a few heavier weight plates eventually though not sure how long that will take.
Get a full set of dumbells thats all you need. After that we can guide you through all kinds of work outs.
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RE: raiden's training journal need help!!!! - 7/12/2007 11:07:50 AM
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I have a set of dumbells with weight discs that I use which are secure, its only the barbell that I can't secure the weight discs because I lost the thing that does on the ends for it, btw thanks for the help.
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RE: raiden's training journal need help!!!! - 7/12/2007 12:04:14 PM
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Dumbell - Side lateral raises - shoulders
hammer curls - biceps
Single arm overhead tricep extensions or two arm
tricep kick backs
Front lateral raises - shoulders
Flat bench - chest
Incline bench - chest
shoulder press - shoulders
Concentrated preacher curls "you can do that off a chair"
Dumbell Rows - back
Dumbell Flys - chest
Barbell
Barbell Rows - back
Floor Bench - chest
Squats - legs
Power Cleans - full body work out
Standing Military Press - Shoulders "best work out"
Barbell Curls - biceps
Skull crushers - triceps
Shoulder Shrugs - shoudlers and traps
Forearm Curls
Reverse Curls - forearms
Deadlifts - lower back
calve raises holding barbell
Now you have a bunch of stuff to add into your routine.
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"Man.. It feels good when alot of losers are around. "
Every man has his strong points.
In a party full of average fish the sharks really stand out.
With the way things are going Ill be 240 by March 2010
Short term goal - 215lbs 10% BF
New Scale weight - coming soon.
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RE: raiden's training journal need help!!!! - 7/12/2007 12:24:05 PM
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thanks will search the net for ones I don't know and I don't have a bench yet is there anything I can do for my chest without a bench for now? I've been using a dumbell in each arm, with both arms up at right angles from my elbow its similar to the multigym but not as good.
Should I do more deadlift reps as I don't have enough weight to get a good workout from 10 reps, I was thinkin around 15 or 20.
Other than that sounds great I'll get started today. Thanks for the help IBB hopefully I'll reach your size in a few years.
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RE: raiden's training journal need help!!!! - 7/12/2007 1:42:52 PM
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quote:
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thanks will search the net for ones I don't know and I don't have a bench yet is there anything I can do for my chest without a bench for now? I've been using a dumbell in each arm, with both arms up at right angles from my elbow its similar to the multigym but not as good.
Should I do more deadlift reps as I don't have enough weight to get a good workout from 10 reps, I was thinkin around 15 or 20.
Other than that sounds great I'll get started today. Thanks for the help IBB hopefully I'll reach your size in a few years.
Floor bench with the barbell. Just lay on the floor and bench the floor will stop your arms exactly parallel.
Get on the floor lean up against something as if your in a reclining seat and do incline dumbell press.
You don't have something you can lay on and do dumbell press's? Just lay down and press the dumbells. But you need to be elevated so that you can bring your arms down low you don't want them stopping parallel.
Flys you can lay on the floor extend your arms out parallel and then squeeze them together squeezing your chest.
You don't need a bench press set... you just need a bench or something you can lay on.. You can do alot of the work with a chair.. EVEN IF YOU HAD A ICE CHEST TO PUT YOUR BACK ON! YOU CAN USE THAT! Lay ontop of an ice chest and do the dumbell press's..
Anything man you have to be creative when working out at home.
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"Man.. It feels good when alot of losers are around. "
Every man has his strong points.
In a party full of average fish the sharks really stand out.
With the way things are going Ill be 240 by March 2010
Short term goal - 215lbs 10% BF
New Scale weight - coming soon.
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RE: raiden's training journal need help!!!! - 7/12/2007 2:45:33 PM
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I'll use a footrest beanie bag, have a freezer which I might fit on but my mum will flip if she sees me using it to bench.
12 July 07 Thursday
3 sets hammer curl 30lbs
3 sets dumbbell rows 25lbs
1 set 40lbs bar 40lbs
1 set dead lift 70lbs
I think I overtrained as I did biceps yesterday, should have remembered to say. I'll use lighter weights till I get used to the routine and allow more time as I have to go now.
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RE: raiden's training journal need help!!!! - 7/13/2007 1:57:31 PM
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So far (in order of when I ate it) today I have had no breakfast except milk, 2 egg sandwiches, water, frosties(processed cereal), water, milk, crackers (quite healthy with some protein), breaded fish and pasta with water. I'm going to have more pasta now with water and then more milk later.
Going to do barbell rows, deadlifts and squats today. I'm not too organised right now as I still haven't finished school and am doing loads of homework.
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RE: raiden's training journal need help!!!! - 7/15/2007 7:29:01 AM
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raidendavidb
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13/07/07
Deadlifts 70lbs 3 sets of 10
Squats 70lbs 3 sets of 10
Didnt get the barbell rows done weights kept slipping.
14/07/07
I ate porridge (full fat milk and jam), 3 boiled eggs, toast with butter, crackers, 3 large chicken breast, rice and broccoli, yogurt, more crackers and milk.
crunches 1 set 10 reps
sit ups with my knees at right angles in the air 1 set 10 reps
the thing where you lie down on your back and lift your legs up (it works your abs) 2 sets of 10
I tried making a temporary bench from some stuff at home but when I use it the weight discs slide of the barbell easily and I have nowhere to rest the barbell.
I still benched 60lbs 3sets of 10 so it cant be that bad although I nearly crushed my manhood at the end of it.
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RE: raiden's training journal need help!!!! - 7/16/2007 3:00:30 PM
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raidendavidb
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16/07/07
I ate milk, 2 sandwiches, 2 bottles of dilute juice, porridge, pasta, meat balls, yoghurt and now more milk with crackers.
hammer curl 20lbs 1 set 15 reps
hammer curl 30lbs 3 sets 10 reps (struggling with my left to get past 8, seems to be my forearm that can't cope not my bicep)
Thats all I managed to get done today, as its late right now and I need to be getting to bed now....
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RE: raiden's training journal need help!!!! - 7/16/2007 3:45:36 PM
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Your not working out nearly hard enough... I already gave you an example of what to do though... I mean you basically turned a whole day into biceps... Your a beginner you should just start off back and bi's chest and tri's... Legs + core... I saw you attempt to pull of a back and bi day but it honestly does not look to me like your putting in much effort you keep coming up with excuses as to why you did not do this or did not do that.
Tomorrow I would be totally impressed if you actually did a good work out 3 sets of 10 too!
Chest - Floor Bench Barbell
Chest - Flys
Tri - Skull crushers
Tri - Kick backs
This is not even a hard work out give that a try 3 sets of 10 and not with some wimpy weight that you know you can throw around easily, Actually put some effort into it.
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--Ninja spy of the Emancipation Detoxification.--
"Man.. It feels good when alot of losers are around. "
Every man has his strong points.
In a party full of average fish the sharks really stand out.
With the way things are going Ill be 240 by March 2010
Short term goal - 215lbs 10% BF
New Scale weight - coming soon.
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RE: raiden's training journal need help!!!! - 7/16/2007 3:48:04 PM
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IBendBarbells
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and stop hitting your biceps soo much thats all I see over your whole journal is barbell curl this and dumbell curl that.. I mean how the heck did that happen you just started your journal.. Once a week dude.. Set routine... If you want to pay around with the weights and get a good pump work on those biceps all the time then do it... But thats not body building thats goofing around.
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"Man.. It feels good when alot of losers are around. "
Every man has his strong points.
In a party full of average fish the sharks really stand out.
With the way things are going Ill be 240 by March 2010
Short term goal - 215lbs 10% BF
New Scale weight - coming soon.
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RE: raiden's training journal need help!!!! - 7/17/2007 8:53:06 AM
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raidendavidb
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Sorry if it seems like I'm not making an effort, I've had too much school work and other school stuff to workout properly. Thats the reason I said to Twisted I want to start his program when I finish school, I'm nowhere near ready to do anything yet.
I only have 60lbs total weights at home, which is pathetic but I only used them to do bicep curls before so they were alright until now.
I finish the end of this week so I'll be starting properly from next week, I have enough money to buy a 110lb weight set now so will get that next week hopefully. Then I'm going to save up for a bench and heavier weights.
I finished my main pieces coursework so I'm going to do the whole workout you gave me today.
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RE: raiden's training journal need help!!!! - 7/17/2007 1:55:23 PM
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bench really slow 60lbs
(max weight I have right now as I have said in previous posts)
I did 10 reps, 3 sets It was hard to finish the 3rd set but didn't push me to failure.
skull crushers really slow 10lbs
10 reps 3sets my triceps felt like they were burning up, even though its not that much weight but it still took me to failure.
flys - 20lbs each arm 10 reps 3 sets
kick backs 15lbs each arm 10 reps 3 sets
I'm crap at most barbell excersises so I'm working on my form.
IBB I'm new to most of this training wise and the weights I have are sh*t so I'm sorry if I'm pissin you off but I'm trying to start it properly now.
Can you please be patient with me I hate not being allowed in a gym and not being able to afford a decent home gym. I'm 15 so I don't have much choice or income and my parents are completely against me weight lifting so they don't help me at all.
You may see this as excuses but I worked out before without weights and I have steadily gained lean muscle since last year not much but I have gone from 140lbs last year november to 170lbs now, so I do make an effort. It will take time for me so IBB I will do the excersises now but please understand its not easy for me to keep up with your program as you are much more experienced and better at it than I am.
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