pizza after workout

I think that's where it becomes important to read the labels.. As far as making or breaking one's health.. It's more a matter of preference.. I just prefer a bread that's not loaded down with HFCS.. and i like getting the extra fibre..
 
For taste.. If I had to choose between the very dark natual wheat bread or the bleached out white bread.. I would probably have to pick the white...
 
 

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The only difference that would matter IMO would be whole grain has more fibre and less carbs and the brand I buy doesn't have HFCS added... for me, I'm just the opposite.. I like the whole grain bread much better than white... Keep in mind were talking about whole GRAIN, not whole WHEAT.

100% whole wheat is better for u than whole grain tho. whole grain and multi gram just mean more than one grain is used, white flour can still be in it

There is never enough time to do everything, but there is always enough time to do the most important thing

 

pepperoni's calories are almost 80% from fat. its very high in fat and no1 could honestly say this is a healthy food

 
**** seriously?
 
I knew it had fat in it but not that much, i thought it was similar to pork flesh because it is from pork isnt it?
 
Okay if the 80% fat calories is true il back down about the pepperoni, but i still dont reckon pizzas are terribly bad things, not the best
 
I was never arguing theyre the best or some kind of really good diet, i was just stating that theyre not severly bad like some are making out-sorry if i was sounding like making pizzas out to be an actual food to add to everyones diet, i didnt mean that.

If im honest whole grain and whole wheat has never ever occured to me as different
 
Im sure ive tried both, and im sure i like neither
 
Il look into whole grain incase i was having whole wheat
 
But if it has them little bits in it (like seeds and bits) then im not eating it.
 
I once as a kid was eating a pepperami, and a bit crunched, it was bone and grissle (BLECH) and i hurled from the sensation on my teeth and the idea.
 
So now if i eat food thats soft (bread) and has crunchy bits it makes me feel like im gonna hurl, that and the taste is a bit cardboardy

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If im honest whole grain and whole wheat has never ever occured to me as different

Im sure ive tried both, and im sure i like neither

Il look into whole grain incase i was having whole wheat

But if it has them little bits in it (like seeds and bits) then im not eating it.

I once as a kid was eating a pepperami, and a bit crunched, it was bone and grissle (BLECH) and i hurled from the sensation on my teeth and the idea.

So now if i eat food thats soft (bread) and has crunchy bits it makes me feel like im gonna hurl, that and the taste is a bit cardboardy

the little bits one is whole grain, whole wheat looks like a darker white bread but theres no bits in it. its not as good as white but i dont think its at all bad

That's it, I've had enough.  As soon as work is over, I'm getting a F***ing pizza!!!

wow this thread is quite popular...pepperoni is truly bad for you, and is very processed and loaded with a carcinogenic precursor ingredient known as sodium nitrite that has been shown to cause cancer. It has little nutrients besides protein.  The fat:protein ratio of pepperoni is about 80:20.  As far as bread, white bread is absolute garbage. 
The two biggest differences between white bread and whole wheat are the processing and the nutritional value.
Flour is made from wheat berries. The wheat berry is made up of the bran, the germ and the endosperm. All parts are filled with nutrients and are used in whole wheat flour.
White bread on the other hand, uses only the endosperm - the starchy inner layer. There is a total of 30 nutrients missing in white bread. The nutritional difference is immense and has measurable impact on our health.  Eating white bread is like eating white flour basically.  Cheese is ok in MODERATE amounts.  The amount on a normal pizza is not moderate. I enjoy the occasional slice, but certainly not a postworkout food.  Make a pizza with whole wheat dough, more sauce than cheese and healthy toppings and you're set.

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wow this thread is quite popular...pepperoni is truly bad for you, and is very processed and loaded with a carcinogenic precursor ingredient known as sodium nitrite that has been shown to cause cancer. It has little nutrients besides protein.  The fat:protein ratio of pepperoni is about 80:20.  As far as bread, white bread is absolute garbage. 
The two biggest differences between white bread and whole wheat are the processing and the nutritional value.
Flour is made from wheat berries. The wheat berry is made up of the bran, the germ and the endosperm. All parts are filled with nutrients and are used in whole wheat flour.
White bread on the other hand, uses only the endosperm - the starchy inner layer. There is a total of 30 nutrients missing in white bread. The nutritional difference is immense and has measurable impact on our health.  Eating white bread is like eating white flour basically.  Cheese is ok in MODERATE amounts.  The amount on a normal pizza is not moderate. I enjoy the occasional slice, but certainly not a postworkout food.  Make a pizza with whole wheat dough, more sauce than cheese and healthy toppings and you're set.

we could have used that post awhile ago, lol

pizza although enjoyable to some, is really just a bunch of empty nutrients, fat, salt, carbs with nothing to them.  Yeah it won't kill you, no immediately but if you are serious about your fitness goals I would go for a better post workout choice and save pizza for a treat on weekends or for satisfying your mouth, but it does nothing for the body really other than fill you with empty and useless nutrients.
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Sorry, but every other post here involves someone mentioning to eat cheese before bed (cottage cheese to be exact)
normally pizza is not made with cottage cheese but cheap ass oilly cheddar or mozza......

So to say cheese in pizzas is unhealthy is primarily contradictory, and also so biased its unbelievable, especially considering that cottage cheese is meant to be eaten before bed, when the metabolism is at its SLOWEST and therefore collects all fat.

Pepperoni doesnt have large fat content either, if you think pepperoni is high in fat, the only two meats your left with with less fat is fish, and chicken.
pepperoni is like hot dogs, crap mixed into a sausage...........not much to it but fat and toxins and smoke flavor.


And again, whats wrong with white bread?
bleach, useless nutrients, like carbs with no real goodness in them.......although tasty, its not very nutrient dense




Like i said, if i put the contents into a sandwhich, no one would care, make it into a pizza (with the SAME ingredients) and its the food of death
I do, I seen no diff if the sandwich has the same fake crap, non dense nuttients with nothing to them, waste of chewing time, for sheer pleasure of taste.


Am i the only one that sees this hipocrisy?


Yes i have a fast metabolism, but pizzas dont contain high fat content, and considering many of you here have taken an interest to the ketonic diet, why are you moaning about extra fat?
I personally go hog wild on crap to, but I sure do not consider it nutritious, its all about my taste needs, not nutrient needs........fats can vary from good ones to bad ones which are cancer causing and is proven.

Remember the body needs fats, theyre very important, the dude ive been training up went to hospital for fainting, apparently his diet lacked salt and fats by a large amount, and that his blood pressure was too low because of it and caused him to collapse.
of course, so you eat fish, clean dairys, nuts, avacado, olives................



Yes eating cheeseburgers all day and quaffing down pints of salt is bad, but theyre also the two most important aspects of bodybuilding and powerlifting
yeah, good for the cravings but any serious power lifters or bb I know, do not indulge in this crap too much, not the serious competitive ones, they have too much will toward their goals and know better.


salt makes the CNS function.
we only need a 1/4 of a tsp per day at most and get that in our veggies, if we are eating enough of them each day........

Fat makes the hormones which is the only way our muscles can get bigger and stronger.
good fats, bad ones warp the hormones.

I  love ya twisted but had to comment on this one.

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really other than fill you with empty and useless nutrients.

Then explain how pizza makes up 25-35% of my total calories throughout the past 6 months and ive ballooned in muscle size?

It hasnt got empty calories.

normally pizza is not made with cottage cheese but cheap ass oilly cheddar or mozza......

 
Types of cheese is a rather anal way to be picking at something, most cheeses have similar fats and oils, therefore making the differences moot points
 

pepperoni is like hot dogs, crap mixed into a sausage...........not much to it but fat and toxins and smoke flavor.

Yeah il give you this one i didnt actually know pepperoni was that bad, i knew it wasnt the best thing ever, but i thought it was on the "average food" scale.

bleach, useless nutrients, like carbs with no real goodness in them.......although tasty, its not very nutrient dense

...Carbs are carbs, unless the body cant digest it because theyre in a particular chemical chain that dissallows our enzymes to break it down, i mean what do you mean by "good carbs"?

I do, I seen no diff if the sandwich has the same fake crap, non dense nuttients with nothing to them, waste of chewing time, for sheer pleasure of taste.

Interesting, however im sure if a prowled the boards long enough il find a sandwhich in someones diet with no bad critique whatsoever containing many of the ingredients i mentioned, but alas, ive not got the time.

I personally go hog wild on crap to, but I sure do not consider it nutritious, its all about my taste needs, not nutrient needs........fats can vary from good ones to bad ones which are cancer causing and is proven.

If the body can digest it and use it for growth, hormones, or some form of cellular activity other than to dispose of it-it is nutritious, just not the best of the best.
I never denied some fats cause cancer

(though im dubious about it considering theres really no actual way to lab experiment on cancer directly connected to fat and fat alone, too many extraneous variables, in science its easier to disprove something than prove something, so chances are they experimented on how having none of these fats made them healthier, which is very extraneous indeed)

To be honest once again i dont ever check the fats i eat, but mostly theyre in oil form which from my knowledge are the good ones.

of course, so you eat fish, clean dairys, nuts, avacado, olives................

This might be a problem for only me, but if i dont get enough fats or carbs, i shrivel up, a clean diet for ME (as in adding minimal bodyfat) would be a dirty bulk to another person.

If i ate lean foods (which i made the mistake of doing throughout the 3 years of bodybuilding) i dont gain much weight, and id still be here moaning how im still only 150lbs while eating like everyones saying how to eat.

yeah, good for the cravings but any serious power lifters or bb I know, do not indulge in this crap too much, not the serious competitive ones, they have too much will toward their goals and know better. 

Oh dont get me wrong id never eat a cheese burger or crap like that, was just saying fats are important, and a fat is a fat, if it is chemically the same-it doesnt matter where it came from.

you dont treat two cows differently because theyre from two different farms, theyre cows, unless one was injected with D-bol for 4 years i doubt it matters much, the meat will be relatively exactly the same.


 

we only need a 1/4 of a tsp per day at most and get that in our veggies, if we are eating enough of them each day........

 
hehe, well obviously that statistic is fake, because the guy i was training up was consuming 3750 calories a day, and i made sure he did, and he was eating PLENTY of vegetables, fruits, and meats (salty ones too!)
 
and he fainted because not enough salt was in his diet and his blood pressure went dangerously low
 
And that aint a website reference, it aint a journal, hell it isnt even a study, its a real human being, and a doctor, it doesnt get more obvious and factual than that, real life incident, and hes never had this trouble before, and he was consuming way too much
 
They asked how much he ate, and they were like "WTF?! is that even possible?" (doctors know nothing of bodybuilding lol) and they said he mustnt be telling the truth because that should like you said too have "given him enough salt"
 
and believe me i knew he was eating because i made sure he ate, i got him into the routine of eating.
 
 
Plants from my knowledge have more potassium than sodium
 
Seriously sodium has a really bad name for itself, sure, over consumption makes you POSSIBLY have a heart attack when youre 65, however underconsumption makes you collapse repeatedly in a time frame of 30 minutes and have to be hooked up to machines and given salt and **** into your blood (I think thats what they did, i didnt record it all)
 
Id rather wait the 45 years til the heart attack than collapse in the next few days from not getting enough salt-personally.
 
 
 
1/4 tsp maybe for an average fat lard with an average crappy BMI that sits down all day


But for someone who in one workout lifts an aggregated 10,000lbs of weight-you need quite a bit more.


Remember the science you read is from the same scientists who thought up the BMI, just because it is "proven" doesnt make it gospel

BMI is treated with very little respect, because people realise its bollocks, and i do the same with other scientific knowledge, because i notice bull**** in it too.

Yet i get penalised or mocked for it?

Just because it isnt the majority view doesnt mean im wrong-or right

Im pretty sure if you read nutrition and exercise magazines from 1975 youd have a good laugh

And im pretty sure if you read nutrition and exercise magazines in 2035 theyl contradict everything said in ones in 2005.

Nutrition swerves around a lot


On the whole im not actually disagreeing with you, only like 15% and theyre little things, youre a nutritionist, and you have very low bodyfat, you obviously know your stuff.

All my point was pizza isnt the food of death, and i will never state its the food of life either, i dont consider it a cheat meal, i think it hangs on the line between cheat meal and average foods.

If you have to eat a "cheat meal" let it be a pizza, because it is the least cheat meal there is.
 
 
 
 
EDIT:Men should get 6 grams salt a day, thats a LOT more than 1/4 tsp, from a bottle or vegetables, you said 1/4 tsp makes enough, thats not 6 grams, not just that but bodybuilders will need a lot more, making that even more innacurate.

I'm sorry guys, I'm siding completely with Link on this one.

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one of my friends plays college football and he was telling me that their strength and conditioning coach was telling them that pizza after a workout is pretty good for you because of all the carbs and added protein


obviously he didnt meen every day but ocasionally.. you guys also have to realize that hes not trying to make bodybuilders hes trying to make kids bigger/faster so that might play a role aswell


what do you guys think?

Assuming they mean to eat pizza frequently after workouts............I do not think that is a scientifically sound idea...........why not eat protein and carbs from whole foods?
As for once a week or as a treat, then go for it, yes it can be a great shock to the body.
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really other than fill you with empty and useless nutrients.

Then explain how pizza makes up 25-35% of my total calories throughout the past 6 months and ive ballooned in muscle size?

It hasnt got empty calories.

normally pizza is not made with cottage cheese but cheap ass oilly cheddar or mozza......

Types of cheese is a rather anal way to be picking at something, most cheeses have similar fats and oils, therefore making the differences moot points

pepperoni is like hot dogs, crap mixed into a sausage...........not much to it but fat and toxins and smoke flavor.

Yeah il give you this one i didnt actually know pepperoni was that bad, i knew it wasnt the best thing ever, but i thought it was on the "average food" scale.

bleach, useless nutrients, like carbs with no real goodness in them.......although tasty, its not very nutrient dense

...Carbs are carbs, unless the body cant digest it because theyre in a particular chemical chain that dissallows our enzymes to break it down, i mean what do you mean by "good carbs"?

I do, I seen no diff if the sandwich has the same fake crap, non dense nuttients with nothing to them, waste of chewing time, for sheer pleasure of taste.

Interesting, however im sure if a prowled the boards long enough il find a sandwhich in someones diet with no bad critique whatsoever containing many of the ingredients i mentioned, but alas, ive not got the time.

I personally go hog wild on crap to, but I sure do not consider it nutritious, its all about my taste needs, not nutrient needs........fats can vary from good ones to bad ones which are cancer causing and is proven.

If the body can digest it and use it for growth, hormones, or some form of cellular activity other than to dispose of it-it is nutritious, just not the best of the best.
I never denied some fats cause cancer

(though im dubious about it considering theres really no actual way to lab experiment on cancer directly connected to fat and fat alone, too many extraneous variables, in science its easier to disprove something than prove something, so chances are they experimented on how having none of these fats made them healthier, which is very extraneous indeed)

To be honest once again i dont ever check the fats i eat, but mostly theyre in oil form which from my knowledge are the good ones.

of course, so you eat fish, clean dairys, nuts, avacado, olives................

This might be a problem for only me, but if i dont get enough fats or carbs, i shrivel up, a clean diet for ME (as in adding minimal bodyfat) would be a dirty bulk to another person.

If i ate lean foods (which i made the mistake of doing throughout the 3 years of bodybuilding) i dont gain much weight, and id still be here moaning how im still only 150lbs while eating like everyones saying how to eat.

yeah, good for the cravings but any serious power lifters or bb I know, do not indulge in this crap too much, not the serious competitive ones, they have too much will toward their goals and know better. 

Oh dont get me wrong id never eat a cheese burger or crap like that, was just saying fats are important, and a fat is a fat, if it is chemically the same-it doesnt matter where it came from.

you dont treat two cows differently because theyre from two different farms, theyre cows, unless one was injected with D-bol for 4 years i doubt it matters much, the meat will be relatively exactly the same.

we only need a 1/4 of a tsp per day at most and get that in our veggies, if we are eating enough of them each day........

hehe, well obviously that statistic is fake, because the guy i was training up was consuming 3750 calories a day, and i made sure he did, and he was eating PLENTY of vegetables, fruits, and meats (salty ones too!)

and he fainted because not enough salt was in his diet and his blood pressure went dangerously low

And that aint a website reference, it aint a journal, hell it isnt even a study, its a real human being, and a doctor, it doesnt get more obvious and factual than that, real life incident, and hes never had this trouble before, and he was consuming way too much

They asked how much he ate, and they were like "WTF?! is that even possible?" (doctors know nothing of bodybuilding lol) and they said he mustnt be telling the truth because that should like you said too have "given him enough salt"

and believe me i knew he was eating because i made sure he ate, i got him into the routine of eating.


Plants from my knowledge have more potassium than sodium

Seriously sodium has a really bad name for itself, sure, over consumption makes you POSSIBLY have a heart attack when youre 65, however underconsumption makes you collapse repeatedly in a time frame of 30 minutes and have to be hooked up to machines and given salt and **** into your blood (I think thats what they did, i didnt record it all)

Id rather wait the 45 years til the heart attack than collapse in the next few days from not getting enough salt-personally.



1/4 tsp maybe for an average fat lard with an average crappy BMI that sits down all day


But for someone who in one workout lifts an aggregated 10,000lbs of weight-you need quite a bit more.


Remember the science you read is from the same scientists who thought up the BMI, just because it is "proven" doesnt make it gospel

BMI is treated with very little respect, because people realise its bollocks, and i do the same with other scientific knowledge, because i notice bull**** in it too.

Yet i get penalised or mocked for it?

Just because it isnt the majority view doesnt mean im wrong-or right

Im pretty sure if you read nutrition and exercise magazines from 1975 youd have a good laugh

And im pretty sure if you read nutrition and exercise magazines in 2035 theyl contradict everything said in ones in 2005.

Nutrition swerves around a lot


On the whole im not actually disagreeing with you, only like 15% and theyre little things, youre a nutritionist, and you have very low bodyfat, you obviously know your stuff.

All my point was pizza isnt the food of death, and i will never state its the food of life either, i dont consider it a cheat meal, i think it hangs on the line between cheat meal and average foods.

If you have to eat a "cheat meal" let it be a pizza, because it is the least cheat meal there is.




EDIT:Men should get 6 grams salt a day, thats a LOT more than 1/4 tsp, from a bottle or vegetables, you said 1/4 tsp makes enough, thats not 6 grams, not just that but bodybuilders will need a lot more, making that even more innacurate.

I do not think I am being anal by stating a fact regarding the difference in nutrient values among cheese............its a clear fact anyone can read up on.
I also do not think your ideas are scientifically sound, especally when I deal with such an extreme community whom most of practice clean eating and show huge results backing up their ways, and I am talking about naturals.

Yes there are those who eat like what you are saying and I personally can take more fat and carb than most competitors, there are some of us like that but that does not make it optimal to the goals and whole foods will always be better utilized with better results than processed foods.  So after a workout, if you really want to optimize your goals, you would normally choose cleaner foods, and occasionally may have a pizza or something else, but scientifically, we know what is what.
As for salt, I still stand by that and because of research findings and experience I have to agree to disagree with you on these.

Having proven that I know how to manipulate the body through nutrition and exercise, I can safely stand by my post.  You are one of those guys that us trainers look at and think.............wow, what I could do with you!!!  Considering your ability when doing things as you mentioned above, then imagine if you did things right................wow, you would get major results, you would go to a new level you never knew.  But if you rather insist you are right then you can stay with your ideas and settle for the results you get now which you are happy with...........but its hard for me not to look at it and think of how much more you could do just knowing what you posted about your present training/diet habits.
still luv ya!
And wyrms if you agree then this post can extend to you as well, you both are genetically blessed with some major potential, once you tap into it you will be unstoppable.
Oh and I do agree with your last paragraph, also not totally disagreeing with you..............main point I meant, I already posted to the poster, which was saying I assumed the coach meaning to do it after MOST workouts, but occasionally, even weekly then fine, but again the nutrient value is low but hey, again assuming you mean going out to some crap joint, you can make some super healthy homemade pizza with tons of nutrient value................
so it depends on the extent of meaning on many of the comments and I should have clarified my assumptions initially.

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I do not think I am being anal by stating a fact regarding the difference in nutrient values among cheese............its a clear fact anyone can read up on.

 
Yeah, i never said it wasnt fact, im just saying all cheeses from my knowledge are made from milk, and as a result there nutrition is relatively the same, some of them are more different than to be expected, but in general cheddar cheese and edam cheese end up with very similar nutritions.
 
 

I also do not think your ideas are scientifically sound, especally when I deal with such an extreme community whom most of practice clean eating and show huge results backing up their ways, and I am talking about naturals.

 
I havent stated any ideas (from my knowledge) all i stated was pizzas arent the food of death, and like i said before, me clean eating doesnt work, ive tried the whole carbs proteins and low fats, i dont gain weight, my metabolism is FAST, and as a result i need to sucker the crap out of it with fats, plenty of "unhealthy" fats, including pizzas.
 
I dont gain bodyfat at all really (1-2%) and i am eating like a 300lbs lazy ass businessman-yet look at my picture.
 
As to the bolded, i am natural, i havent taken PH's or steroids, ive taken creatine and tribulus a year ago-thats it.
 
 

Yes there are those who eat like what you are saying and I personally can take more fat and carb than most competitors, there are some of us like that but that does not make it optimal to the goals and whole foods will always be better utilized with better results than processed foods.  So after a workout, if you really want to optimize your goals, you would normally choose cleaner foods, and occasionally may have a pizza or something else, but scientifically, we know what is what.
As for salt, I still stand by that and because of research findings and experience I have to agree to disagree with you on these.

 
lol, i dont disagree with most of this, i agree, like i said, im not supporting pizza to be the meal of the gods, or something that should be made a habit of, all im saying is pizza isnt actually terribly bad.
 
As to the salt, yes, we will have to agree to disagree, but i know for a fact 1/4 tsp weighs out at .71 grams, because i did it earlier.
 
6 grams is whats stated on RDA packaging, and even if theyre wrong, whats other organisations say?
 
4 at least most likely.
 
 
It doesnt matter whether its from vegetables or a bottle, men need 6 grams a day (average men) and 1/4 tsp weighs .71 grams
 
 
we could discuss tsp depth and size, weighing going wrong, but the most state of error is probably .3 grams max, considering most tsp are of similar structure.
 
Im talking about level tsp, not heaped.
 
 

Having proven that I know how to manipulate the body through nutrition and exercise, I can safely stand by my post.  You are one of those guys that us trainers look at and think.............wow, what I could do with you!!!  Considering your ability when doing things as you mentioned above, then imagine if you did things right................wow, you would get major results, you would go to a new level you never knew.  But if you rather insist you are right then you can stay with your ideas and settle for the results you get now which you are happy with...........but its hard for me not to look at it and think of how much more you could do just knowing what you posted about your present training/diet habits.
still luv ya!

 
Hey i got danmirage to work me a diet, and the dude was spot on, great diets, i just dont work like that, seriously ive eaten clean before, i dont add mass, my body burns carbs fast, im really hot, my fiancee always hugs me in the middle of winter because im always warm, brown adipose tissue burns of calories in a way the krebs cycle doesnt.
 
It allows excess calories to be burnt without oxidisation to allow no formation of ATP
 
I did that at uni 2 weeks ago, it is the reason for ectos, or one of the reasons i should say.
 
Babies have loads of it, and while it decreases in adulthood, it does vary, just like bodytype.
 
I can eat carbs till the cows come home-il doubtfully add a 1lbs.
 
Im not trying to dispute what youre saying, from my knowledge youre a paid expert, so you know your stuff, i agree with you on many points, i just think people have taken my words and translated it to
 
"Pizzas will turn you into ronnie coleman"
 
All im saying is Pizzas arent as bad as there reputation-thats it lol.
 
Im not arguing either, if i was thered be many ****
 
 
Also dont get me wrong i dont eat pizzas all day long
 
I spend a long time cooking chicken fillets, cooking pasta with tuna, many vegetables, fruits at apt times, pre and post workout shakes/snacks.
 
I am mostly clean, but i require a big dirty meal usually every day to every other day, otherwise i do start losing weight quite fast.
 
 
Im not a grease monkey, i do eat prety healthily as things go, but i do admit to gorging on pizzas almost every day lol.
 
 
 
 

I'm sorry guys, I'm siding completely with Link on this one.

 
I knew there was a reason i liked you so much
 
 

I wouldn't say I'm particularly genetically blessed, I'm pretty carb-sensitive.
But the argument here is whether or not pizzas are healthy or not.

Directly post-workout, personally, I probably wouldn't, but I don't see it as a bad option for dinner.
In terms of cheat meals, pizza is a much healthier option.
I agree with what Linda said about processed foods and whole foods but I don't see the harm in a pizza a few times per week, not saying that I eat pizza that often, I have it about once a month actually.

The only problem I see with pizza is the portion, it's just too much for me in one meal.

I agree with everything Link said just then to defend himself, I don't praise pizza as healthy but I wouldn't list it as completely unhealthy and akin to McDonalds or KFC either.

+ I've read that the recommended daily sodium intake (roughly) is about 2400mg.