pizza after workout

er...someone name me ONE ingredient in a pizza thats "unhealthy"??
 
 
No one?
 
Pizza
 
Bread-we all eat bread here
Cheese-most of us eat cheese here, lovely protein and fats source
tomato puree-...so little calories youd need 4000 tubes to amount to one turd...a runny one admittedly.
Pepperoni-protein, little/medium fat content
Peppers-not unhealthy from my knowledge
Ham-more protein
mushrooms-unhealthy? Not from what i can recall
Chicken-Yeah right, this stuff is a bodybuilders heaven!
sweetcorn?
onion?
 
 
A pizza unhealthy?
 
NO
 
Its only negative drawback is the grease content, and quite frankly, if youre pumping iron hard enough, and doing a nice 10-20 minute cardio and dont drive everywhere, youll burn it off anyway.
 
 
I wouldnt eat it after workout though...Not straight after...Not because its bad, just...My appetite post workout is 0, i have to wait 30-45 mins before i can eat, otherwise i feel sick.

In the realms of eating bad.. IMO, Pizza would certainly be the lesser of all evils. 
From a health standpoint.. the all the grease isn't that great.. and the bleached out white bread is something most would consider less desirable..
 
but a good cheese pizza, with some peps and veggies isn't that bad..  If anyone would or could make one with a good whole grain bread.. that wouldn't be too bad
 

ORIGINAL: twistedlink

er...someone name me ONE ingredient in a pizza thats "unhealthy"??


No one?

Pizza

Bread-we all eat bread here
Cheese-most of us eat cheese here, lovely protein and fats source
tomato puree-...so little calories youd need 4000 tubes to amount to one turd...a runny one admittedly.
Pepperoni-protein, little/medium fat content
Peppers-not unhealthy from my knowledge
Ham-more protein
mushrooms-unhealthy? Not from what i can recall
Chicken-Yeah right, this stuff is a bodybuilders heaven!
sweetcorn?
onion?


A pizza unhealthy?

NO
 
Its only negative drawback is the grease content, and quite frankly, if youre pumping iron hard enough, and doing a nice 10-20 minute cardio and dont drive everywhere, youll burn it off anyway.
 
 
I wouldnt eat it after workout though...Not straight after...Not because its bad, just...My appetite post workout is 0, i have to wait 30-45 mins before i can eat, otherwise i feel sick.

There is never enough time to do everything, but there is always enough time to do the most important thing

 

well put it this way, if i said my mid day snack was a cheese and tomato sandwhich, with green peppers, and then i have some ham on the side
 
Most people wouldnt really raise an eyelid
 
As soon as it becomes a pizza, Mass hysteria breaks loose.
 
Smoundzou (or anyone) out of interest whats the difference between white bread and whole grain?
 
I mean i despise whole grain bread because it just tastes nasty, but is there anything beneficial in whole grain?
 
Thing is my metabolism is rocket fast, so if all whole grain does is help reduce fat, i dont really care for what bread base is used
 
Im not disputing anything, just wondering why everyone loves wholegrain for bodybuilding, because its macronutrients arent terribly different from white bread really are they?

Let's go reality, and not in technical terms here. Honestly, if you go to the local pizza shop and get a medium-large pizza with cheese/ham/vegetables it's gonna be considered a cheat meal, and/or bad. The grease involved in the process doesn't help much either. If you honestly want a pizza, make it yourself. They sell shaped pizza dough,(Whole wheat ones too) they sell tomato sauce, sell regular or non-fat mozzarella, pepperoni(turkey/beef), ham from the deli or package, and of couse the chicken. Put it together, throw it in the oven. No grease, nothing bad. Perfect bulking meal, and limitless ideas can be derived from it. Steak, chicken, pork, meatball, sausage, etc. Dont try to say that the local pizzeria buys the high quality foods therefore, it's considered healthy or even close to it. Maybe it's that I honestly dont trust someone making something for me, and that I would rather watch them, or make it myself, but in my world, in actuality, pizza is bad. Twisted, your metabolism is as you said, rocket fast, therefore you can eat 3 pizzas and not worry. Everyone else has to worry. Whether ecto, or meso, a pizza is not considered a healthy meal especially if it was purchased from a pizzeria. And for the sake of the thread, pizza for  post-workout....I'll say again, the coach is an idiot.

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pizza is good

ORIGINAL: twistedlink

er...someone name me ONE ingredient in a pizza thats "unhealthy"??


No one?

Pizza

Bread-we all eat bread here
Cheese-most of us eat cheese here, lovely protein and fats source
tomato puree-...so little calories youd need 4000 tubes to amount to one turd...a runny one admittedly.
Pepperoni-protein, little/medium fat content
Peppers-not unhealthy from my knowledge
Ham-more protein
mushrooms-unhealthy? Not from what i can recall
Chicken-Yeah right, this stuff is a bodybuilders heaven!
sweetcorn?
onion?


A pizza unhealthy?

NO

lol sry but a pizza isnt healthy. u can certainly make a healthy pizza but as far a normal pizza goes u have white bread, pepperoni, and cheese.  cheese and pepperoni have very high fat content. theres obviously much worse choices but the average pizza isnt good for u.

if u wanted tho u could use whole wheat bread, tomato sauce, chicken, fat free or normal cheese. that would be pretty good

if u wanted tho u could use whole wheat bread, tomato sauce, chicken, fat free or normal cheese. that would be pretty good

 
That would be gay pizza

lol the only difference in what i said compared to real pizza is the bread/dough

Sorry, but every other post here involves someone mentioning to eat cheese before bed (cottage cheese to be exact)
 
So to say cheese in pizzas is unhealthy is primarily contradictory, and also so biased its unbelievable, especially considering that cottage cheese is meant to be eaten before bed, when the metabolism is at its SLOWEST and therefore collects all fat.
 
Pepperoni doesnt have large fat content either, if you think pepperoni is high in fat, the only two meats your left with with less fat is fish, and chicken.
 
 
And again, whats wrong with white bread?
 
Pearljam i like the technical points, you have typed out a very nice post with all information being preached here, but every single item on a pizza is eaten by all of us here
 
 
Like i said, if i put the contents into a sandwhich, no one would care, make it into a pizza (with the SAME ingredients) and its the food of death
 
 
Am i the only one that sees this hipocrisy?
 
 
Yes i have a fast metabolism, but pizzas dont contain high fat content, and considering many of you here have taken an interest to the ketonic diet, why are you moaning about extra fat?
 
Remember the body needs fats, theyre very important, the dude ive been training up went to hospital for fainting, apparently his diet lacked salt and fats by a large amount, and that his blood pressure was too low because of it and caused him to collapse.
 
 
Yes eating cheeseburgers all day and quaffing down pints of salt is bad, but theyre also the two most important aspects of bodybuilding and powerlifting
 
salt makes the CNS function.
Fat makes the hormones which is the only way our muscles can get bigger and stronger.
 
 
 

I should also point out that i did tell him to include plenty of fats in his diet (the dude is like me x 35 on the metabolism scale)
 

but pizzas dont contain high fat content

 
By me, cant be bothered to edit, typing too fast and getting ahead of myself.
 
What i meant is for weight/calorie/fat its not terribly bad.
 
Like smound said, out of all "evil" foods, pizza is the best of them.
 
 
 
 
Quite frankly i think its one of the reasons i managed to actually put weight on me, to all ectos out there, shove pizza down your throat, its protein/carb/fat content is brilliant to shunt your metabolism into a corner and grow ripples of muscle!!!

The only difference that would matter IMO would be whole grain has more fibre and less carbs and the brand I buy doesn't have HFCS added... for me, I'm just the opposite.. I like the whole grain bread much better than white... Keep in mind were talking about whole GRAIN, not whole WHEAT.
 
 

ORIGINAL: twistedlink

well put it this way, if i said my mid day snack was a cheese and tomato sandwhich, with green peppers, and then i have some ham on the side

Most people wouldnt really raise an eyelid

As soon as it becomes a pizza, Mass hysteria breaks loose.

Smoundzou (or anyone) out of interest whats the difference between white bread and whole grain?

I mean i despise whole grain bread because it just tastes nasty, but is there anything beneficial in whole grain?

Thing is my metabolism is rocket fast, so if all whole grain does is help reduce fat, i dont really care for what bread base is used

Im not disputing anything, just wondering why everyone loves wholegrain for bodybuilding, because its macronutrients arent terribly different from white bread really are they?

There is never enough time to do everything, but there is always enough time to do the most important thing

 

yeah this thread is going nuts
 
to be honest, people worry too much
 
twisted has a good point, pizza is a label for a group of foods that individual are not bad...the key is moderation and frequency: dont eat an assload of pizza too often and youll be fine, same with anything else you eat
 
post-workout, why would you have pizza? its heavy and i would think it would mess with your stomach...the higher fats arent ideal, blah blah blah...its fine as a meal sometimes, not as a post workout meal tho (at least as a staple of a diet, if you have some once and awhile youll live)
 
i bet theres been more cortisol levels raised trying to deal with eating pizza than the actual harm the pizza itself does haha
 
 

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ORIGINAL: twistedlink

Sorry, but every other post here involves someone mentioning to eat cheese before bed (cottage cheese to be exact)

So to say cheese in pizzas is unhealthy is primarily contradictory, and also so biased its unbelievable, especially considering that cottage cheese is meant to be eaten before bed, when the metabolism is at its SLOWEST and therefore collects all fat.

we eat FAT FREE cottage cheese, not just normal cheese. and also i was talking about the fat content of cheese along with pepperoni being really bad together, cheese alone though is still high in fat and 1/3 in saturated but if it fits into ur ratio's it's fine.

ORIGINAL: twistedlink

Pepperoni doesnt have large fat content either, if you think pepperoni is high in fat, the only two meats your left with with less fat is fish, and chicken.

pepperoni's calories are almost 80% from fat. its very high in fat and no1 could honestly say this is a healthy food

ORIGINAL: twistedlink

And again, whats wrong with white bread?

Yes i have a fast metabolism, but pizzas dont contain high fat content, and considering many of you here have taken an interest to the ketonic diet, why are you moaning about extra fat?

white bread is processed. im not gonna come up with some BS to prove my point because honestly i haven't read about (or atleast dont remember the reasons) why its bad for u but i've heard it countless times from very knowledgeable ppl.


of course fat is important, and as u know i was on keto. i feel that extra fat is better than an equal amount of extra carbs (in calories not grams) but theres still limits.


im not saying pizza is HORRIBLE but im saying its unhealthy

Lots of misconceptions regarding fats being bad.. someone posted a good article out of men's health a few weeks back..  the article went indepth of dozens of studies regarding low fat / High fat diets, etc... If I can find the link, I'll post it but as everyone knows.. the search function isn't the best..... But I'll give it a go...
 
For those who have not read it.. it's in the Nov or Dec issue of men's health and can probably be found on their site...

There is never enough time to do everything, but there is always enough time to do the most important thing

 

ORIGINAL: smoundzou

The only difference that would matter IMO would be whole grain has more fibre and less carbs and the brand I buy doesn't have HFCS added... for me, I'm just the opposite.. I like the whole grain bread much better than white... Keep in mind were talking about whole GRAIN, not whole WHEAT.

100% whole wheat is better for u than whole grain tho. whole grain and multi gram just mean more than one grain is used, white flour can still be in it