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one little question about protein... - 1/24/2006 5:17:10 PM
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YeahItsMe
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i have a question about when to take protein. so should i only take it after i workout or should i take it everyday no matter what? thanks for the help!
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RE: one little question about protein... - 1/28/2006 9:28:01 AM
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I would take some pre work out and post work out, and def. on resting days. Thats when your muscles are recovering so I'd feed it some nutrients = )
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RE: one little question about protein... - 1/28/2006 1:16:17 PM
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I eat protein rich foods across the whole day, and take the shake postworkout becuase thats when you body is searching for protein in order to repair and in turn giving you strength and size gains. If you can afford to do more than one a day i suggested taking another one as a meal replacement right before bed.
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RE: one little question about protein... - 1/28/2006 5:10:36 PM
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it all depends on your budget.
if your tight on budget, take it only after workouts.
if you got some cheese, take it after workout and anytime during off days.
if your rich, take it after twice or more a day.
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RE: one little question about protein... - 1/29/2006 3:52:09 PM
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I take it in the morning, at 3 p.m., and about 9 p.m every day. Don't take it with meals.
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RE: one little question about protein... - 1/30/2006 1:42:12 AM
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epilespaul
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apparently , u take it 90 mins after a workout.
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RE: one little question about protein... - 1/30/2006 2:21:20 AM
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dimyd
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lol who gave you that ridiculously misleading advice?!
If you haven't taken in any protein supps within 40mins to an hour after your workout, it will have basically no affect.
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RE: one little question about protein... - 2/1/2006 12:07:36 PM
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Protein stays in your blood stream a long time. So you could take it hours before working out. I take protein everyday myself. Every meal I have, I usually have a protein shake with it.
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RE: one little question about protein... - 2/1/2006 3:14:21 PM
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That seems a bit on the extreme side. Protein shake after everymeal?? Remeber that excess protein turns into fat.
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RE: one little question about protein... - 2/2/2006 11:59:38 AM
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I dont have excess protein. You should see me work out.
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RE: one little question about protein... - 2/8/2006 7:50:59 PM
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just wondering...if you have a protien shake at every meal. how many grams are you taking a day?
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RE: one little question about protein... - 2/10/2006 4:36:00 PM
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95gtdriver
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I dont care how much you lift to much protein turns into fat
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RE: one little question about protein... - 2/11/2006 8:32:10 PM
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UGAFreak
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quote:
ORIGINAL: 95gtdriver
I dont care how much you lift to much protein turns into fat
O i agree completely. I think what is not understood is that protein is not burned like calories or carbs would be. i was just curious how much your putting in your system wit a protein shake at every meal.
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RE: one little question about protein... - 3/3/2006 3:18:14 PM
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I like protein
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RE: one little question about protein... - 3/3/2006 7:07:39 PM
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dont care how much you lift to much protein turns into fat
Or carbs..or ammonia...it can lead to dehydration, slower metabolism, energy loss, hunger, weight gain, calcium depletion, acidification, and slow muscle growth.
It generally only stores as fat if you are in a caloric surplus.
The ideal range of protein for results is .6-.9 grams per pound of body weight. Excess protein (over 35% of your total calories except when at end of pre-contest cutting) has not demonstrated any advantage over appropriate protein intake in a good diet. (that means 2x the carbs as protein)
Let me remind you that too much protein could be counterproductive.
Insluin is the shuttle that carries the glycogen and protein into the muscle after training. Which can end the post work out catabolic cycle.
A very high protein meal can actually cause a release of glucagon. Glucagon is a hormone that antagonizes (prevents) insulin release. Glucagon also has another function. It causes the body to convert amino acids into glucose (a process called gluconeogenesis). That means, eat too much protein and those aminos become carbs!
But if you eat some protein with carbs, insulin shoots up. If you eat too much protein with carbs, the insulin release may actually be lower.
During the post-workout period, protein breakdown does occur and is the dominant threat (catabolic). Getting the insulin up allows muscle breakdown to diminish so that synthesis (rebuilding) can dominate and we can quickly get back to building muscle! (Anabolic)
The best Pre and Post W/O should actually looks like this:
0.2 g/lb high glycemic index carbs
0.1 g/lb protein from whey (or Just 5 grams of BCAA or 15 grams of EAAs)
You would consume this mixture in water both pre and post OR during and post.
By rapidly increasing protein synthesis while simultaneously decreasing protein breakdown, studies in 2000 showed that you could shift to a positive muscle protein balance within 1 hour after the workout.
Example.
I weigh 180 so that is 36g carbs and 18g protein
I'd sip one of those just before or during my workout and a few minutes after I finish my cool down and stretching.
I actually do a piece of fruit and BCAAs right now.
It turns out that the desired effect does not require ALL the aminos to be there and does not require much protein at the Post W/O point.
I do follow up with a meal about an hour after that.
Example:
4:00 pm
Quinoa
Beef
Carrots and celery
4:45
Pre work out carbs+protein(or BCAA/EAA) (200 calories)
Work out 5:15-6:00
6:00
Post Work out carbs+protein(or BCAA/EAA)(200 calories)
7:00
Baked Sweet Potato
Turkey
Broccoli
Note that each PWO is 200 caories...you need to be sure to account for the extra calories! Otherwise this could amount to undesired weight!
Remember there is a the protein combo of 17g before or during the workout and 17 g after. Each with 34g carbs. The carbs facilitate insulin which is the shuttle for energy into the muscle...that replenishing is the name of the game to end the catabolic cycle and get back anabolic.
BUT..high protein causes insulin resistance and glucagon's "protein into carbs" alchemy...so all the protein is not making it to the muscle...it is being converted because you did not give any carbs...
The next meal(s) after PWO should be preferably from food.
< Message edited by danmirage -- 3/3/2006 7:10:13 PM >
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