no-xplod vs naNO vapor....cell mass vs true mass vs size on vs superpump 250

ok so i started taking multi vitamins, fish oil, creatine, glutamine, and some NO aakg **** from walmart about a 1 1/2 ago but for the price im dropping on the aakg and creatine i could be taking one of these
 
which is best? reasons would be great
 
and should i still take the walmart creatine?
 
thanks guys

I would just buy plain creatine monohydrate. NO products just get you jittery and aren't really worth the money. Glutamine is a good staple.

Also, don't worry so much about supplements, just make sure your diet is top notch. This has been said a million times.

supplements are a supplement to your diet; they are not needed; i don't know where everyone gets that it is a must. If you must take ANYTHING stick to the multi, fish oil, whey protein and perhaps creatine. Nitric oxide products are a ripoff and PHs and AAS should be completely out of the question for a few years of training at least.

Ive had great results with stacking NO explode and cellmass, just keep a balanced diet with high protein and hit it hard in the gym. I tried superpump, didnt do much for me.

This is getting tedious.  I could understand if these questions were coming from twenty different noobs who can't be bothered to use the site search feature, but you're starting to ingratiate yourself to a lot of people, Jon.  How many different ways are you going to ask the same questions about these supps?

For Chrissakes, you're 18 years old and 130 lbs; you've still got a lot of natural test cruising around in your system.  For the last time, what you need is to eat FOOD -REAL FOOD, and a LOT OF IT.  Lift heavy, drink lots of water, and get lots of sleep.  There really is nothing more to it, and no, the supplements are not going to get you around that fact.

I understand the temptation to chase after every glossy supplement promise that hits the market.  Trust me, I did it too.  These people speak from experience, and they're trying to help you avoid a lot of unnecessary spending and disapointment.  When you understand (and I mean really understand -not just pay lip service to) the role of supplements in a successful training and diet program, you will be a lot better off.

Listen to Puma.  Stop wasting your money on NO gimmicks and hit the damn fridge, bro.

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A lot of people on here like Superpump but I'm still yet to be convinced it isn't a laxative. Personally I use No-xplode, seldomly.

''If one is after quick results one never learns an art.''

Erich Fromm

Not to shut down your input veggeep, but there is the supplement section for a reason. People have a lot of questions on this topic and just want some honest input experienced thoughts. You are honest with your whole foods argument, but that wasn't his question. After reading these forums for the past month all I see is you guys bashing the supplement industry and praising whole foods. The whole foods are great don't get me wrong but the supplements have their additional help too. Creatine revolutionized the industry and weightlifting as a whole. Now NO supplements have began their reign and people are buying these supplements, and what negative impact does it have on the lifter? If the lifter wants to have great pumps and a great striving workout then I think NO supplements would be a great investment. I personally love the focus and motivation that they give me so I use them. If the kid wants to buy them then let him, he'll find out on his own.I personally don't see the supplements as unnecessary, even if they may be placebos they place your mentality into a whole different state, and sometimes mentality presides over the body and do miraculous things.
 
Why don't you add a "Whole Foods" Section instead of the "Supplements" one?
 
Now jon, onto your question, I've sampled many NO supplements. I've had good results with jack3d and naNO vapor. SP250 didnt do that much for me but it has different effects for different people. I would recommend you go to GNC and ask for free samples of any NO supplement and see what they have. That is how I've researched NO supplements and found out what has worked for me. As far as the creatine, just get a creatine mono, cheap and tasteless. If I'm mistaken correct me, but the creatine should be mixed with a gatorade post workout, so the gatorade replenishes your electrolytes and the glucose in the gatorade acts as the creatine's transport so you aren't just urinating it out. Post-workout is the only time you should really drink gatorade though.
 
If you do look into jack3d be sure to take it mildly. Take one scoop your first workout, one and a half your second, and so on until you reach the full serving of three scoops, it is POTENT stuff and will send your workout through the roof. If you have any more questions you can pm me or just reply.

I'm going to agree he needs to eat a lot of food. I didn't take creatine until I was a good 160 lbs at my height isn't too bad, you don't really need it, at 130 lbs food is going to be your biggest help, honestly not kidding about it at all.  If  you want to take creatine that is fine, plain old monohydrate works.  On a side note I didn't take creatine for another 6 years after that, don't have to have it and I would advise make some gains till you struggle, ie atleast 15-35 lbs, then use the creatine change up your routine and keep progressing oh of course don't forget you will need more calories by then.

On to the NO mumbo jumbo.  Honestly I can name a lot of reasons you shouldn't bother with one of these products.   But I'm going to talk about one primarily because of your 130 lb size. at your age I was also 130 ish lbs.  Caffeine and other harsh stimulants in NO products can make it harder to gain muscle mass, dehydrate you and cause other problems.

Spend your money on quality food and cheap supplements as needed. A lot of this stuff simply isn't worth the money.

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T24Rent I think there is a lot of contempt towards the supplement companies generally because they're not regulated by the FDA in America, they often don't have the ingredients listed ( and ''propietary blends'' anyone?), generally the intent is to fool the idiot consumer by hyperbole advertisement and they cost too much money to justify buying them.

I just buy the powders straight out of Myprotein.co.uk rather then going for branded companies but maybe once a year yeah I'll get a tub of No-Xplode or something not because I think it's necessarily going to give me gains but it gets me pumped up for the gym.

''If one is after quick results one never learns an art.''

Erich Fromm

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T24Rent I think there is a lot of contempt towards the supplement companies generally because they're not regulated by the FDA in America, they often don't have the ingredients listed ( and ''propietary blends'' anyone?), generally the intent is to fool the idiot consumer by hyperbole advertisement and they cost too much money to justify buying them.

I just buy the powders straight out of Myprotein.co.uk rather then going for branded companies but maybe once a year yeah I'll get a tub of No-Xplode or something not because I think it's necessarily going to give me gains but it gets me pumped up for the gym.

I will agree with you that there is a lot of negativity towards such. And a lot of people will buy the NO supplements because of a cool looking bottle and lots of unneeded ingredients. But I actually do research and look for specific ingredients. Or I get a free sample. I just wanted to point out that if you are going to have a supplement section in a forum I don't see the point in bashing everyone's questions on them. Give them answers they want. If someone asks what type of jeans should i buy, don't tell them to get a button up t shirt. Give them advice on what they ask and not something that is overused entirely in this forum. If the kid wants to have good pumps in the gym then he's going to want an NO supplement. Personally I'd recommend Jack3d. Cheap, not really any fillers, tastes good, and promotes extremely high intensity workouts.
 
Like the saying goes, "if you don't have anything nice to say, then don't say it all" in other words stay on the topic the lifter asked and not a substitute. If it was so simple to just have great workouts and awesome gains by eating whole foods then the supplement industry would be a bust. But its not. Some of these supplements do get the job done that is supposed to happen, you just have to find the right one. I was reading lately that GNC is actually the second biggest growing company in this economy. With amenities that they sell at high prices, and they are still growing?! Thats telling you something about the supplement industry.
 
But once again I do agree 100% that supplements do lie, but you have to find the right one which is why we should be giving this guy advice on his question.