no more java and soda

I used to drink coffee all day. I had it with tons of sugar, and x-cream. I figured the sugars alone to be about 400g per day. I stopped the java altogether, and I'm hoping that will allow me to loose weight.  I'm adding 1gal of water per day instead of java. I'm eating good. So the only thing changing is no more java and soda.
 
Should I see fast results?

Only time will tell. Stick it out for a couple of weeks and see how you look. Judge by the mirror, not the scale.

Also, some times you will become acustomed to to your body's size so you won't see any progess. To combat this, take pictures so you can compared side by side

coffee is not bad for losing fat.  Sugar is.  With the decreased caffeine intake you may find yourself with more of an appetite and start eating more.

And Im just a little curious why youre trying to lose weight when your name is moremass...

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RollingStone


coffee is not bad for losing fat.  Sugar is.  With the decreased caffeine intake you may find yourself with more of an appetite and start eating more.

And Im just a little curious why youre trying to lose weight when your name is moremass...

He;s right. Try drinking the coffee black or, as I do, with artificial sweeteners though those probably are not good for you and may also spark appetite in some people.

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MoreMass,
   I know you're going to quit smoking soon right?  I know next to nothing about ways to quit smoking, but I would think giving up two things at the same time is very ambitious.  Do you think coffee could fill the place of the cigarettes?  I know it's not the same thing, but if you were dying for a vice fix, and you could turn to coffee as a little indulgent sinfulness per se, that might help you stay away from the cigarettes.  Does that make sense, or am I talking out my ass again?  Of course your thinking might be that one bad move (coffee) would spiral into worse (smoking).  I've heard a lot of people turn to (bad) food to take the place of smoking.  As said before caffeine is a powerful appetite supressant (that I have personal experience with!) and could hold off the off-nicotine munchies.  In short I think (black) coffee could be your best friend as you quit the smoking.  Have any of you quit smoking?  How did you accomplish it?

Youre quitting caffeine and nicotine at once??

Youre gonna eat everything you see.

working on explosive phase
vertical: 35
weight: 206

Big 3: 300/440/515

Strength and growth come only through continuous effort and struggle.

I drink coffee black in the mornings 1/2 hour before I go for my run on non-lifting days...

tastes terrible, but I started putting a scoop of protein in their...it helps...lol

even a little milk sometimes, helps it taste better then straight coffee by itself.

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   I know you're going to quit smoking soon right?  I know next to nothing about ways to quit smoking, but I would think giving up two things at the same time is very ambitious.  
...  I've heard a lot of people turn to (bad) food to take the place of smoking.

When dropping the cigs, it's a good idea to stop doing things that go well with smoking.  It takes a LOT of willpower to resist a smoke when drinking coffee.  
And there is nothing that "takes the place" of smoking.  People who are looking for a substitute aren't really in it to win it.  If you're gonna quit smoking, do it right, just ****ing do it and don't look back.  If you need to drop some other bad habits (i.e. alcohol, coffee), so be it, but there's no reason to pick up another vice as a replacement for tobacco.  If that's your strategy, you're probably gonna fail and start smoking again anyway.

STEVIA!! that is all you need to add and keep the coffee to mornings and preworkout.

snatchula

JMBS
 
   I know you're going to quit smoking soon right?  I know next to nothing about ways to quit smoking, but I would think giving up two things at the same time is very ambitious.  
...  I've heard a lot of people turn to (bad) food to take the place of smoking.

When dropping the cigs, it's a good idea to stop doing things that go well with smoking.  It takes a LOT of willpower to resist a smoke when drinking coffee.  
And there is nothing that "takes the place" of smoking.  People who are looking for a substitute aren't really in it to win it.  If you're gonna quit smoking, do it right, just ****ing do it and don't look back.  If you need to drop some other bad habits (i.e. alcohol, coffee), so be it, but there's no reason to pick up another vice as a replacement for tobacco.  If that's your strategy, you're probably gonna fail and start smoking again anyway.

Snatchula,
    Thanks for your post!  I hope it helps MoreMass.  I didn't realize coffee and smoking were linked that way.  Question though:  Are people in general (I know everyone is different) more successful by weaning down the number of cigarettes a day, or by going cold turkey, or by using a patch/gum?  I imagine there are support groups as well. 

Alot of people I know quit by switching to lights and then ultra lights, but IMO the best way to stop is just to quit.  Instead of thinkin about the negative and the cigarette you cant have, you should think about the positive, like the new breathing capacity youll have and how youll be healthier.

And whats wrong with black coffee, its one of hte best things ever. 

And you think quitting cigs is hard, try to quit dipping cope straight, can and a half a day, equivalent nicotine of 5 packs of cigs a day.  Thats fxckin hard.

working on explosive phase
vertical: 35
weight: 206

Big 3: 300/440/515

Strength and growth come only through continuous effort and struggle.

RS,
   Is 'cope' chewing tobacco?  Are you the one who quit?  If so, congrats!  :)

JMBS


RS,
   Is 'cope' chewing tobacco?  Are you the one who quit?  If so, congrats!  :)

Yeah I quit, it was an epic fail.  I was back on 5 days later.  Now Im as bad as ever.

working on explosive phase
vertical: 35
weight: 206

Big 3: 300/440/515

Strength and growth come only through continuous effort and struggle.

RS,
   Does it affect your training?  Because it doesn't show in your pictures!  :)

No, i actually throw in a lipper before I head to the gym everyday, and it kind of relaxes me and gives me energy at the same time and gets me ready to lift.

Nicotine doesnt really seem to affect body composition.  There are claims that it lowers testosterone but alot of studies have shown that after smoking cigarettes, levels are just the same as someone who hasnt smoked at all so I dont think they even know about that.  I think the negative effects are pretty much just in my mouth, and on my appetite, as the nicotine kills hunger and takes my mind off food.  The tobacco juices are probably bad for the digestive tract too but I dont swallow the spit anymore like I used to.

Basically no, it doesnt negatively effect my performance.

working on explosive phase
vertical: 35
weight: 206

Big 3: 300/440/515

Strength and growth come only through continuous effort and struggle.

Interesting.  Does it affect your cardio, or is that more an issue with smoking and lung damage?

JMBS


Interesting.  Does it affect your cardio, or is that more an issue with smoking and lung damage?

lol it enters the bloodstream through the lining of the mouth so no.

working on explosive phase
vertical: 35
weight: 206

Big 3: 300/440/515

Strength and growth come only through continuous effort and struggle.

RollingStone

JMBS


Interesting.  Does it affect your cardio, or is that more an issue with smoking and lung damage?

lol it enters the bloodstream through the lining of the mouth so no.

No I understood that, but it still enters the bloodstream.  I didn't know whether that hampered the blood's ability to take up oxygen or not.  I know carbon monoxide does that.  I didn't know whether nicotine did the same.  From what you say, apparently not.

JMBS

Are people in general (I know everyone is different) more successful by weaning down the number of cigarettes a day, or by going cold turkey, or by using a patch/gum?  I imagine there are support groups as well. 

Sorry for the delayed reaction.  Like RS said, cold turkey all the way.  When people try to cut down to ultra lights, or half a pack instead of two packs, etc, 99% of the time they fail.  I think gum and patches can be helpful to some people who really have a strong dependence on nicotine, but I think most people are more addicted to the activity than to the chemical.

snatchula

JMBS

Are people in general (I know everyone is different) more successful by weaning down the number of cigarettes a day, or by going cold turkey, or by using a patch/gum?  I imagine there are support groups as well. 

Sorry for the delayed reaction.  Like RS said, cold turkey all the way.  When people try to cut down to ultra lights, or half a pack instead of two packs, etc, 99% of the time they fail.  I think gum and patches can be helpful to some people who really have a strong dependence on nicotine, but I think most people are more addicted to the activity than to the chemical.

I have a hunch that people whose goal is not "limited" to quitting smoking but a totally healthy lifestyle (including diet and exercise) probably see more success.  I imagine the "feeling better" part of quitting smoking may take awhile.  It's probably more like hell for quite a while.  At least with exercise you start to feel better after the first few workouts.  Do people who quit smoking as part of a healthier lifestyle fare better than people whose smoking cessasion in the whole goal?

JMBS

I have a hunch that people whose goal is not "limited" to quitting smoking but a totally healthy lifestyle (including diet and exercise) probably see more success.  I imagine the "feeling better" part of quitting smoking may take awhile.  It's probably more like hell for quite a while.  At least with exercise you start to feel better after the first few workouts.  Do people who quit smoking as part of a healthier lifestyle fare better than people whose smoking cessasion in the whole goal?

You're right, being seriously dedicated to a higher standard of health is certainly key.  I felt an increased lung capacity within the first couple weeks; it really shows in the cardio.  I wouldn't say that this is what motivated me to keep it up, though.  Higher performance in exercise was slight, insignificant, at most just a small incentive.  For me it was the preexisting desire to be healthier, a positive attitude, a ton of willpower, and no excuse for failure.  

snatchula

JMBS

I have a hunch that people whose goal is not "limited" to quitting smoking but a totally healthy lifestyle (including diet and exercise) probably see more success.  I imagine the "feeling better" part of quitting smoking may take awhile.  It's probably more like hell for quite a while.  At least with exercise you start to feel better after the first few workouts.  Do people who quit smoking as part of a healthier lifestyle fare better than people whose smoking cessasion in the whole goal?

You're right, being seriously dedicated to a higher standard of health is certainly key.  I felt an increased lung capacity within the first couple weeks; it really shows in the cardio.  I wouldn't say that this is what motivated me to keep it up, though.  Higher performance in exercise was slight, insignificant, at most just a small incentive.  For me it was the preexisting desire to be healthier, a positive attitude, a ton of willpower, and no excuse for failure.  

How long ago did you quit?

About 6 months ago.  Not long I guess.  A lot of quitters relapse even after a couple years.  It's still a work in progress, but I never feel like I need a smoke, so that's a good sign, eh?

Very good sign, I would think!  I imagine it's hard.  Do you have to stay away from people who smoke?

Congrats on the healthier you!  :)

i had to give up coffe to quit smokin an started dipin instead my lungs are thankful i can breath better

Yeah who cares if your face rots off... as long as you don't get lung cancer, it's all good!  

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Hey man, coffee's good for you as long as you keep it strictly BLACK. I used to put sugar and cream in my coffee and I drink a starbucks venti sized glass every day (College, ugh). As soon as I started taking it black, (in combination with stopping the soda too) I was able to get rid of a considerable amount of fat. Keep drinking the coffee, it increases your metabolism too if i'm not mistaken

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Hey man, coffee's good for you as long as you keep it strictly BLACK. I used to put sugar and cream in my coffee and I drink a starbucks venti sized glass every day (College, ugh). As soon as I started taking it black, (in combination with stopping the soda too) I was able to get rid of a considerable amount of fat. Keep drinking the coffee, it increases your metabolism too if i'm not mistaken

Black coffee is an appetite suppressant too!