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need help on how to start a basic work out - Monday, February 20, 2006 3:17 AM
ok i have been trying to work out with weights and all that crap but i dont see it helping for some reason,

i am about 165 lbs/75 kg and 6 foot 3 i think about 185 cm.

tonight i did a small work out just to check how my body feels, i just did a few reps of normal push ups and sit ups.
i really dont have the time to have an organised diet as i am always at uni and dont have time to be picky with wat i eat but i dont go all out junk food. lol
wat im trying to get at is i want to put on weight as in bulk in muscle. just wondering if some people could give me some pointers on wat sort of work out i shld be doing
should i be doing just normal push ups and sit ups like i am now? or should i look into heading back to the weights? and if so how much should i be lifting. i saw a guy back in high school where he did a calculation with his body wieght and his height and got an estimate of how much he shuld be lifting, not sure if that is right.

i know this may sound kinda jumping to one thing to another but i am about to go to bed its getting late over here.

please help just give me some pointer on wat i should do to get started.
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RE: need help on how to start a basic work out - Monday, February 20, 2006 8:36 AM
I wouldn't worry about it -after all, diet is highly overrated and has very little actual impact on your bodybuilding success anyway. All that obsessive calorie-counting, meal preparation, and nutrient profiling is a waste of time, really. Come to think of it, so are pushups -so is physical activity of ANY kind. Shoot, with a routine like that, you're probably overtraining, and THAT'S why you didn't see results within the first ten minutes of working out. You really don't even need to bother with weightlifting of any kind, because I just read about this awesome new product that you just spray on your skin, and it causes you to grow massive, ripped, Jay Cutler muscles in ten hours without so much as LOOKING at a barbell! This stuff is WHACK!

Wow, I'm so good at this "blowing smoke up your a**" thing, I should run for president!

Seriously, it sounds like you've put all of ten minutes into doing your homework, and even less time into establishing realistic expectations. You gotta come with more enthusiasm than that, bro. You don't show up at a job site and say, "okay, I'm ready to build a house, but I can't be bothered with footings and joists and nails and crap. I'll just wave my hammer around for a few minutes and that should be enough. And by the way, I'm gonna need a blueprint for this house, can somebody draw one for me?"

Let's try that question again. This time, if you want some helpful tips, try elaborating on the following:

1. What (exactly) have you been doing training-wise so far? How long have you been doing it?
2. So you want to pack on the muscle. Great. How much are we talking about, and how soon do you expect to do it?
3. Got your height and weight. How about your age and body fat percentage (if you know it)?
4. What kind of equipment do you have access to?

Sorry to pounce on your first post like this, but you haven't convinced me you're serious about your goals. We're here to help, but we can't read minds, and no one can do this for you
Yes, that's me in my avatar, and NO, I don't look like that today. That was taken back in Jan '07, and I lost most of that progress when I slacked off last year. I'm on my way back, tho, and I'm using that photo for inspiration.
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RE: need help on how to start a basic work out - Monday, February 20, 2006 3:42 PM
Okay.  Now that I've had some time to calm down, I'm going to try that again 

First of all, I still want you to clear up those four questions in my previous post, but I also want to lay some ground work.  I'm going to give you the benefit of doubt and assume that you really are totally new to this.  Sometimes, it's too easy for someone who has been lifting for a while to believe there was ever a time when they were clueless, and we tend to blow up when people ask innocent questions.

I'm sorry, what?  It's just me?  Oh, okay.  I'll work on that then...

Let's start with the basics:

All muscle growth is the result of your body repairing, but more importantly, OVERCOMPENSATING FOR damage that you inflict by overloading that muscle.  Muscle tissue is metabolically expensive -meaning additional muscle requires additional blood supply, and places heavier demands on your metabolism.  So naturally, your body won't bother building new resource-hungry muscle tissue without a compelling reason to.  And, uncomfortable as it may sound, a few pushups and situps are not nearly compelling enough.  You have to work those muscles frequently (more on that in a second) with a progressively-increasing load involving heavy weights if you want to make them any bigger.  Period.

The best laid workout plans are for naught if you neglect your diet.  Seriously, to revisit my home-building analogy, working out religiously without a solid diet plan is like having the the most skilled carpenters in the world ready to build a house, while you dole out a single 2x4 at a time.  If you want to pack on muscle, you have to supply the raw materials in bulk -that means quality proteins, complex carbs for energy, healthy fats in the right ratios, and lots of water.  I tried gaining muscle on "three squares a day", and that got me nowhere fast.  Learn from my mistake -don't waste your time repeating it.

When it comes to building muscle, most workouts work for a while, but NOTHING works forever.  The very process of building new muscle is your body's way of adapting to the demands you placed on it.  If you provide the exact same stimulus week after week, and month after month, your body will respond with only as much growth as was needed to meet that repetitive demand.  You have to constantly strive to increase the weights you are lifting, and vary the intensity and volume of your workouts to keep your body from growing accustomed to what you are throwing at it.  The moment your body acclimates to the resistance is the moment you stop growing.  There are hundreds of ways to keep your workouts productive and anabolic (inducing muscle growth), but you have to be an active participant -you can't just pluck Workout X out of a magazine and expect it to deliver continuous results.

Finally, Building muscle takes time.  Lots of it.  Forget what you've read in the supplement advertisements about "packing on 30 Lbs of lean mass in two months".  If you can pull that off, just make sure you don't get caught with the steroids, because posession is 9/10 of the law, LOL.  Seriously, if you're gaining 1/2 to 1 pound of lean bodyweight per week, you're making huge progress.  Don't expect to build a killer physique for the beach if spring break is only three weeks away.

I'm going to leave the workout advice to someone else, because I've rambled on long enough
Yes, that's me in my avatar, and NO, I don't look like that today. That was taken back in Jan '07, and I lost most of that progress when I slacked off last year. I'm on my way back, tho, and I'm using that photo for inspiration.
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RE: need help on how to start a basic work out - Tuesday, February 21, 2006 2:30 PM
WOW!!!!!  I was reading your blog and I am quite amazed at how far along you have come!!!! I've read your profile and it doesn't say ur a personal trianer or anything......how did u or actually where do u get all that info????  I am new to this, and I read like crazy and I am trying so hard!!!!  U r an inspiration!!! 
Thanks:)

Fran


"Our greatest glory is not in never failing, but in rising up everytime we fail"--Ralph Waldo Emerson
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RE: need help on how to start a basic work out - Tuesday, February 21, 2006 3:44 PM

WOW!!!!! I was reading your blog and I am quite amazed at how far along you have come!!!! I've read your profile and it doesn't say ur a personal trianer or anything......how did u or actually where do u get all that info???? I am new to this, and I read like crazy and I am trying so hard!!!! U r an inspiration!!!

Thanks, Fran   The fact is, I'm only recently putting into heavy practice all the things I've learned about training over ten years or so of following this sport.  Like you, I'm a voracious reader, and I've always had a keen interest in exercise physiology.  After several years of reading "hot new trends" in fitness, you start to gain an appreciation for simplicity and honesty, LOL.

My philosophy regarding physique improvement is straightforward: physique improvement is a simple thing to elicit.  Simple, as in "un-complicated".  The kinesiology of exercise and muscle adaptation is a simple matter of biomechanics; once all the conditions are ideal for growth, growth is inevitable.  It's only as complicated as we choose to make it by getting caught up in the minutia of "isolating this muscle insertion" or "dialing in your nitrogen balance".  The gulf between un-complicated and "easy", on the other hand, is another thing entirely.  if it was anywhere near as "easy" as most diet gurus try to make you believe (anything to sell a book), everyone would have a perfect physique.  The difference between success and failure (I believe) lies in my ability to embrace that challenge as a positive, character-building opportunity.  The ability to view exercise and diet as a daily chance to pamper myself (as opposed to a chore to be grappled with) makes all the difference.

Getting (or staying) in shape doesn't have to monopolize your time, and the mechanics of it need not consume you.  Now, having said that, some people do a better job of succeeding in this endeavor without ever immersing themselves in it the way I have, and I do envy them

  I've just come to realize, after years of trying to complicate things (it's a Y-Chromo thing, LOL), and trying to build my body one fiber at a time that there is no analogue for that in real life.  And, like so many other persuits in life, when you stop trying to control and micro-manage every single detail -when you surrender to the simplicity of training the body as a holistic system, beautiful things just seem to fall into place

Sorry if that sounds disgustingly cliche, ha ha ha ha!
Yes, that's me in my avatar, and NO, I don't look like that today. That was taken back in Jan '07, and I lost most of that progress when I slacked off last year. I'm on my way back, tho, and I'm using that photo for inspiration.
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RE: need help on how to start a basic work out - Thursday, February 23, 2006 5:30 PM
hit the weights, progessive overload and proper diet will get you gains, no 2 butts about it.

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