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natural or not? - 6/20/2004 10:16:11 PM

MrDPM

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hi
If I take phs, I'm natural oder not?
i dont't want take steroids cause I will be natural my hole life long.

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RE: natural or not? - 6/21/2004 4:47:24 AM

Magik23

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It's a tought question ..... some people claim Yes and some other No .... for my personnal
point of view i think that it's not natural because you force the liver to converse the
pro-hormone in an active hormone ...

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RE: natural or not? - 6/21/2004 9:22:00 AM

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As Magik23 said. And I have to agree. It's a matter of opinion. If you enter a contest that forbids the use of Prohormones then in that case...you are not natural. For this forum, it's debatable. Some would argue that if you ingest whey protein you are not natural as that is manufactured protein. I think most will agree that steroids are not natural. Prohormones border on that fine line. Arguments will go either way and you'll see plenty of support for both sides.

There is just no simple Yes or No answer in this case.

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RE: natural or not? - 6/21/2004 10:43:07 AM

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No, your not natural. If you go to enter a "Natural" bodybuilding contest, and are on PH's, hell even tribilus, you will be forced to withdraw from the competition. But don't worrie, there are plenty of contests where they dont care, they say they piss test you for the buig ones like the arnold classic, mr. olympia, or mr. world or any of those big ones with guys like cuttler, colemen, gunter, priest, levrone in it, they are all def. on steroids, few admit it, lee priest has, but they are all on them, and get away with it because when your that big, they don't care, you take the test, and the results get lost or something like that if ya catch my point...lol Smile

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RE: natural or not? - 6/21/2004 2:33:12 PM

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Not True GK... That would depend on the organization and their rules. And they haven't piss tested at a pro contest since Cutler tested positive for diuretics and they threw the results out at the Arnold about 4 years ago.

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RE: natural or not? - 6/22/2004 9:51:59 AM

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"That would depend on the organization and their rules"... Yes I'm aware of that, which is why I said previously, "there are plenty of contests where they dont care". "And they haven't piss tested at a pro contest since Cutler tested positive for diuretics.", ok, but I'll be damned if I still don't see in various articles before a major contest where they say how different people are thrown out because of steroid usage, not well known pros, but people are thrown out, at least thats what I read in an issue of Muscular Development. "and they threw the results out at the Arnold about 4 years ago"... Again whicj is why I said, "because when your that big, they don't care, you take the test, and the results get lost or something like that if ya catch my point". Hope I adressed everything bro Smile