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my new max good or bad? - Tuesday, August 07, 2007 8:51 AM ( #1 )
i'm pesimistik about everything
 
so for 5'11 165 pounds 1 month till 15 is 255 pound bench max 1 rep good or bad (this was for football so i didn't have any pre's in me)
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RE: my new max good or bad? - Tuesday, August 07, 2007 9:02 AM ( #2 )
You have to remember this is the internet and much of what you read here is exagerated. The 100% rawpowerlifting WW for 165lbs at 15 is 230 so you have a great max.
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RE: my new max good or bad? - Tuesday, August 07, 2007 9:10 AM ( #3 )
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RE: my new max good or bad? - Tuesday, August 07, 2007 9:11 AM ( #4 )
Not to jack thread but Jeff you seem to be a pretty good judge. At 6'2 - 140 is 185 a decent bench? And 275 on deadlift? 
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RE: my new max good or bad? - Tuesday, August 07, 2007 10:45 AM ( #5 )

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Not to jack thread but Jeff you seem to be a pretty good judge. At 6'2 - 140 is 185 a decent bench? And 275 on deadlift? 

Sorry I am not Jeff though lol
 
Thats pretty thin..  Id say thats a pretty good bench at that size.   The deadlift is really good for your size. 
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RE: my new max good or bad? - Tuesday, August 07, 2007 11:16 AM ( #6 )

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Not to jack thread but Jeff you seem to be a pretty good judge. At 6'2 - 140 is 185 a decent bench? And 275 on deadlift? 
140 is thin for 6'2'' but if you have made improvements since you started trasinning I would not worry about your stats right now. As for your lifts they sound good. I would say 99% of people cant dead lift 2x their body weight so you are ahead of most people right now.


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RE: my new max good or bad? - Tuesday, August 07, 2007 12:19 PM ( #7 )
Yeah I'm small I know lol, I really got buckle down on the diet. I eat a lot, just not the right stuff. And I get stronger, just not bigger.
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RE: my new max good or bad? - Tuesday, August 07, 2007 12:56 PM ( #8 )

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Yeah I'm small I know lol, I really got buckle down on the diet. I eat a lot, just not the right stuff. And I get stronger, just not bigger.

 
Write down everything you eat today in your diet.  You would be suprised what alot of food is  especially at your height  
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RE: my new max good or bad? - Tuesday, August 07, 2007 1:43 PM ( #9 )


i'm pesimistik about everything

so for 5'11 165 pounds 1 month till 15 is 255 pound bench max 1 rep good or bad (this was for football so i didn't have any pre's in me)


Well, I'm 5'9.5" 185 lbs 6% bf 19 yrs oldand I failed to bench 250 lbs, so yeah, if you really did bench that, then that is impressive.


ORIGINAL: JeffKing

You have to remember this is the internet and much of what you read here is exagerated. The 100% rawpowerlifting WW for 165lbs at 15 is 230 so you have a great max.


So basically, you're saying he has the potential to get the world record?
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RE: my new max good or bad? - Tuesday, August 07, 2007 1:47 PM ( #10 )
LoL, well let me rephrase that...

I've always got tons of stuff to get done, I'm a pretty busy guy and so I always have trouble being consistent. LIke...I'll get in a decent breakfast, say 400-500 cals + protein shake but then I'll get s acught up doing somethin that before I know it it is 2pm and I haven't ate since then. So then my stomach kinda hits me and I realize I'm starving so I'll go throw down around 1,000 cals. and Then I'll get another 1,000+ over the rest of the night so I really only end up getting around 2750-3k. Awhile back I was really strict and ate just over 5k for a week and gained like...I think it was 1 or 1.5 solid pounds. But that was just a helluva a lot of food, it's hard gettin that much down between classes. I'm tryin though, this year my schedule is a lot easier so I should be able to handle it.
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RE: my new max good or bad? - Tuesday, August 07, 2007 2:03 PM ( #11 )

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LoL, well let me rephrase that...

I've always got tons of stuff to get done, I'm a pretty busy guy and so I always have trouble being consistent. LIke...I'll get in a decent breakfast, say 400-500 cals + protein shake but then I'll get s acught up doing somethin that before I know it it is 2pm and I haven't ate since then. So then my stomach kinda hits me and I realize I'm starving so I'll go throw down around 1,000 cals. and Then I'll get another 1,000+ over the rest of the night so I really only end up getting around 2750-3k. Awhile back I was really strict and ate just over 5k for a week and gained like...I think it was 1 or 1.5 solid pounds. But that was just a helluva a lot of food, it's hard gettin that much down between classes. I'm tryin though, this year my schedule is a lot easier so I should be able to handle it.

 
For a whole week your snacks at school eat Nuts + Cheese sticks + Sandwiches  every 2 - 3 hours between class or what ever "use your cell phone or some kind of alarm to know when to eat every 2 - 3 hours".  Even if you can barely get it down shove it in your mouth and force  it down... Even if you feel like you have to throw up... Drink water relax try to keep it down.  Eventually your going to get hungry at those times of day.
 
cheese sticks may not be the best suggestions but your in school I can't think of anything else to replace that with.. They have alot of cholesterol.
 
 
Anyways then when you get home shovel down some cottage cheese and fruit.. have a protein shake with it.   Carry a lunch box with you to school around everywhere pack that baby up every morning!   Eat everything in your parents fridge when they ask you about why you are eating soo much tell them you are starving you must be having some kind of growth spurt.  "which would not be suprising" I am assuming you are young thats why I said all of that. 
 
 
 
 
As for the kid in this thread thats a freaking great max bench! 
 
 
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RE: my new max good or bad? - Tuesday, August 07, 2007 2:09 PM ( #12 )
Yeah last year I would put down pb&J's between class so I know I can get that down. I'll get me some Nuts and I can get those lil' bowls of mixed fruits 2.  When I get everything set up I'll post it up in my journal...I'ma have ya'll hold me accountable for gettin in enough food.
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RE: my new max good or bad? - Tuesday, August 07, 2007 6:32 PM ( #13 )

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You have to remember this is the internet and much of what you read here is exagerated. The 100% rawpowerlifting WW for 165lbs at 15 is 230 so you have a great max.


no way. ur saying the 15yr old lifting record of all is 230 pounds for 165lb. person. and this guy is saying he's 14 and his is 255lb.??? unless we have pretty much the strongest 14yr. old in the country on here thats not right.
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RE: my new max good or bad? - Tuesday, August 07, 2007 8:04 PM ( #14 )
i had on the bar 45x2 35x2 25x2=255
 
so believe me or not that's what i pressesd i have no reason to ly on here i'd shoot a vid. but no camera if anyone is from northern wisconsin and wants to see just let me know and we can meet up once i buy a membership after the season ends 
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RE: my new max good or bad? - Tuesday, August 07, 2007 10:17 PM ( #15 )
45 x 2 = 90
35 x 2 = 70
25 x 2 = 50

90 + 70 + 50 = 210

Now unless im wrong somehow, it equals 210.
Unless you used a 45lb bar.
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RE: my new max good or bad? - Tuesday, August 07, 2007 11:10 PM ( #16 )

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45 x 2 = 90
35 x 2 = 70
25 x 2 = 50

90 + 70 + 50 = 210

Now unless im wrong somehow, it equals 210.
Unless you used a 45lb bar.


of course he used a bar he wouldnt just place the weights on his hand but still i doubt the weight used.
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RE: my new max good or bad? - Tuesday, August 07, 2007 11:16 PM ( #17 )
lmao... i'm not saying he didn't use a bar alltogether.
I just added up the numbers and said that unless he used a 45lb bar, he didn't bench 255.
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RE: my new max good or bad? - Tuesday, August 07, 2007 11:23 PM ( #18 )

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lmao... i'm not saying he didn't use a bar alltogether.
I just added up the numbers and said that unless he used a 45lb bar, he didn't bench 255.


lol yea i figured thats what u meant i just felt like being sarcastic
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RE: my new max good or bad? - Wednesday, August 08, 2007 12:20 PM ( #19 )
No reason to lie on forums, but a LOT of ppl do.  I think there was a post not too long ago about proving lifts.  Like if you younger than 16 and benching over 200, a video was needed or everyone would agree to not believe it... something like that.  I post videos all the time on here, but all they do for me is show how weak I am. haha.

The reason it's hard to believe is your age and your height/weight.  You're tall and skinny and 14 and can bench more than a lot of 17/18/19 year olds that have been training for a while... you can see why thats hard to believe.
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RE: my new max good or bad? - Wednesday, August 08, 2007 1:23 PM ( #20 )

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You have to remember this is the internet and much of what you read here is exagerated. The 100% rawpowerlifting WW for 165lbs at 15 is 230 so you have a great max.

how i know 15 year olds that are like 150 lb. that bench 225 that isnt close to a record are you sure the wr for benching is 230 for 165 lb. division?im suprised it isnt like 400...
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RE: my new max good or bad? - Wednesday, August 08, 2007 2:00 PM ( #21 )

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i'm pesimistik about everything

so for 5'11 165 pounds 1 month till 15 is 255 pound bench max 1 rep good or bad (this was for football so i didn't have any pre's in me)


Well, I'm 5'9.5" 185 lbs 6% bf 19 yrs oldand I failed to bench 250 lbs, so yeah, if you really did bench that, then that is impressive.


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You have to remember this is the internet and much of what you read here is exagerated. The 100% rawpowerlifting WW for 165lbs at 15 is 230 so you have a great max.


So basically, you're saying he has the potential to get the world record?
It looks that way. But he will have to compete in that fed and under their rules.
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RE: my new max good or bad? - Wednesday, August 08, 2007 2:02 PM ( #22 )

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You have to remember this is the internet and much of what you read here is exagerated. The 100% rawpowerlifting WW for 165lbs at 15 is 230 so you have a great max.


no way. ur saying the 15yr old lifting record of all is 230 pounds for 165lb. person. and this guy is saying he's 14 and his is 255lb.??? unless we have pretty much the strongest 14yr. old in the country on here thats not right.
It  is drug tested and raw. Considering it is a new fed I'm sure those records will not last long so set them while they are still in reach.


http://www.rawpowerlifting.com/records/World/World%20Bench%20Press%20Records.pdf
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RE: my new max good or bad? - Wednesday, August 08, 2007 2:07 PM ( #23 )

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You have to remember this is the internet and much of what you read here is exagerated. The 100% rawpowerlifting WW for 165lbs at 15 is 230 so you have a great max.

how i know 15 year olds that are like 150 lb. that bench 225 that isnt close to a record are you sure the wr for benching is 230 for 165 lb. division?im suprised it isnt like 400...
This is just one of many power lifting federations. It is raw ( no bench shirts and drug tested). Remember, it is a compatition lift not a gym bench so it is much harder.



http://www.rawpowerlifting.com/records/World/World%20Bench%20Press%20Records.pdf
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RE: my new max good or bad? - Wednesday, August 08, 2007 3:05 PM ( #24 )
Man I am weak in this weight class.. I had a much better record in the 180lb weight class... Then again I am sure most of those guys are not my height.
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RE: my new max good or bad? - Wednesday, August 08, 2007 3:08 PM ( #25 )
Wait dude thats By age... I know a 180lber in my gym who is pushing over world record weight then.. And I am only 50lbs under world record weight...


There are so many people I know stronger then those figures... I mean if thats going by age and weight... It looks like it is... Those are not very good figured bro...


Unless that is by competition lift your talking about them leaving the weight on their chest keeping their back flat and getting a perfect rep. Then thats alot of weight. But I still know people stronger.. I have seen a 180lb man put up 405... Have also seen a 220lb man rep 405 x 10... My gym must be full of freaks.
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RE: my new max good or bad? - Thursday, August 09, 2007 7:23 AM ( #26 )

45 x 2 = 90
35 x 2 = 70
25 x 2 = 50

90 + 70 + 50 = 210

Now unless im wrong somehow, it equals 210.
Unless you used a 45lb bar.

 
i just figured everbody would automatically add in the 45 lbs bar it would be a little diffucult with EZ bar i would imagine
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RE: my new max good or bad? - Thursday, August 09, 2007 9:06 AM ( #27 )

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Wait dude thats By age... I know a 180lber in my gym who is pushing over world record weight then.. And I am only 50lbs under world record weight...


There are so many people I know stronger then those figures... I mean if thats going by age and weight... It looks like it is... Those are not very good figured bro...


Unless that is by competition lift your talking about them leaving the weight on their chest keeping their back flat and getting a perfect rep. Then thats alot of weight. But I still know people stronger.. I have seen a 180lb man put up 405... Have also seen a 220lb man rep 405 x 10... My gym must be full of freaks.


The records I posted are drug free, I'm sure some of the guys in your gym are on steroids......405x10 is a steroid bench for sure. The raw non-drug tested world record for 220lbs is 582lbs set by Mike Macdonald.


Here is a link to the all time raw non-drug testsd records for bench


http://www.powerliftingwatch.com/records/raw-bench-press
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RE: my new max good or bad? - Thursday, August 09, 2007 9:41 AM ( #28 )
No dude... he is a young manager at my gym called inshape... everyone knows of him and he is drug free he is only 19 years old.. I assure you there are people out there way higher then those records... I can take a video if you really want to see, id feel kind of weird asking him though and its rare to find him pressing in the evenings.

I may be able to find something about him online although I doubt it because he is not into power lifting... he is just a young body builder.



You can talk to rippedchick because she also knows som drug free guys in her gym that will break those records at her age..

there are soo many people that don't compete who are so damn strong.



Oh and one more thing.. I am not sure if you can really say drug free... any of those guys could have used steroids at one point in time in their life and maintained the strength... Lets say they did this competition 1 - 2 years later but juiced for 2 years are they still considered drug free? You see what I am getting at?
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RE: my new max good or bad? - Thursday, August 09, 2007 1:10 PM ( #29 )

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No dude... he is a young manager at my gym called inshape... everyone knows of him and he is drug free he is only 19 years old.. I assure you there are people out there way higher then those records... I can take a video if you really want to see, id feel kind of weird asking him though and its rare to find him pressing in the evenings.

I may be able to find something about him online although I doubt it because he is not into power lifting... he is just a young body builder.



You can talk to rippedchick because she also knows som drug free guys in her gym that will break those records at her age..

there are soo many people that don't compete who are so damn strong.



Oh and one more thing.. I am not sure if you can really say drug free... any of those guys could have used steroids at one point in time in their life and maintained the strength... Lets say they did this competition 1 - 2 years later but juiced for 2 years are they still considered drug free? You see what I am getting at?


No 19 year old at 220 is raw benching 405x10 naturally or with steroids . If he is post a link to his natural raw world record plaese. By the way no teenager at 220 or less has benched over 500 raw even with steroids, and 405x10 is  over 500, probably 525-540.
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RE: my new max good or bad? - Thursday, August 09, 2007 1:21 PM ( #30 )

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No dude... he is a young manager at my gym called inshape... everyone knows of him and he is drug free he is only 19 years old.. I assure you there are people out there way higher then those records... I can take a video if you really want to see, id feel kind of weird asking him though and its rare to find him pressing in the evenings.

I may be able to find something about him online although I doubt it because he is not into power lifting... he is just a young body builder.



You can talk to rippedchick because she also knows som drug free guys in her gym that will break those records at her age..

there are soo many people that don't compete who are so damn strong.



Oh and one more thing.. I am not sure if you can really say drug free... any of those guys could have used steroids at one point in time in their life and maintained the strength... Lets say they did this competition 1 - 2 years later but juiced for 2 years are they still considered drug free? You see what I am getting at?


No 19 year old at 220 is raw benching 405x10 naturally or with steroids . If he is post a link to his natural raw world record plaese. By the way no teenager at 220 or less has benched over 500 raw even with steroids, and 405x10 is over 500, probably 525-540.




Your not taking height into consideration bro... at 5'9 220 is rather beastly.. I am not making an opinion on this.. I am just telling you what I have seen. if I did not see it I may not believe it either... But I am not sure if he puts up 500lbs.. I have never seen him max out.



You should check out youtube alot more too.. there are plenty of young guys putting up 405 at low weights 175lbs - 185lbs.. I don't care what your world record scores say there are people out there that do it.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=63_iJfxcxAo&mode=related&search=
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F1WRiQ3Q_T0&mode=related&search=
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FWovCl54638&mode=related&search=
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FWovCl54638&mode=related&search=
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GTGjaFxenQM&mode=related&search=
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vc13IdhbGcU&mode=related&search=

Some of those guys were short but not one of them being in the 240 weight range. You can't just say well they must be on steroids thats all I ever hear from you. Just because you can't do something there is no reason to start boastin about telling everyone else its impossible. There are some big bench numbers going up all over the place.
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