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ok just to say I use to weigh 208 about a year and a half ago and ever since I've been doing more physical activities like skateboarding, running and go to the gym 5 days out of the week.

so now I'm 5'8, weigh 148 and my body fat is about 13 or 14 but I want to get my bf down to atleast 6 to 8 and gain muscle. As of today (5/12/08) I going to take Altered state a nitric oxcide, Arson a fat burner ,cell mass and I am also on the Abs diet.

so Tell me what yall think and what should I work, or what deit would help me more to get a 8 pack but my goal is really to get a 8 pack and gain more muscle.

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 farmers tan i see?  very nice haha

you use to weigh 208?  man.. u  must have been quite chunky then eh?
you look like you have a good stout frame right now, and i can sorta see the abs tryin' to poke thru.

like you mentioned.. get that BF% down to 6 to 8% and eat clean and you'll be good to go.

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I don't think your are 13-14% fat, I reckon around 10% at highest..What do other people reckon? You look good right now, better than I do even after my cut!

ORIGINAL: motokouk

I don't think your are 13-14% fat, I reckon around 10% at highest..What do other people reckon? You look good right now, better than I do even after my cut!

really?  that's how i look right now (stomach fat-wise) and i'm bulking.

when i start cutting those abs will pop out like crazy as the fat just melts away

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hahha....yeah I work outside all day so I get that farmer tan pretty bad... but yeah I was pretty big though

ORIGINAL: motokouk

I don't think your are 13-14% fat, I reckon around 10% at highest..What do other people reckon? You look good right now, better than I do even after my cut!

definitely not at 10%. i'd say what he said, about 13%

I dunno looks around 10-11 to me, 13-14 looks too high.

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ORIGINAL: motokouk

I don't think your are 13-14% fat, I reckon around 10% at highest..What do other people reckon? You look good right now, better than I do even after my cut!

definitely not at 10%. i'd say what he said, about 13%

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looking at the first pic, even relaxed at 10% u would see more ab definition (in most people). maybe around 12% but i cant be completely sure obviously

Hmm, I guess people are different in terms of how low you'd need to be for ab definition. I honestly thought you didn't see anything until you were at 10% and under.

ORIGINAL: motokouk

Hmm, I guess people are different in terms of how low you'd need to be for ab definition. I honestly thought you didn't see anything until you were at 10% and under.

usually thats about right. depending on the person the upper abs start to show around 12-14% and the lower abs come out around 8-10%

personally i can see my upper abs around 14% but my lower abs down come out until much lower, when i was at about 10.5% i still couldnt see them much at all