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methl 1 test side effects - 9/10/2004 7:54:44 PM
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tomg
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After seeing others in the gym making great gains using Methl 1 test I decided to give it a try. Now I am a little confused. After about 6 days on it I noticed my nipples were getting puffy and more pronounced. I thought this was a side effect of too much estrogen in your system. From everything I am reading Methl 1 test is not supposed to be convertable to estrogen.....is my body producing more estrogen itself in a attempt to balance my hormones out?? I stopped taking it after 9 days but would really like to resume taking it if I can eliminate this particular side effect. The pump I got plus the feeling of a much more direct link to my muscles made me feel it would be very effective if I can use it for a complete cycle. I did start taking some aroma zap in an attempt to eliminate the side effect...but no real change noticed yet.
Just a little history of myself...... Im 38 yrs old. I lifted pretty regularly during my teenage yrs and early 20's. After a shoulder injury unrelated to lifting I just got out of lifting completely. Starting to feel a little old and worn down..lol...I began lifting again about 2.5 yrs ago. I have been lifting regularly and when I work out....I always put in 100% effort. I have reached a peak which I can not seem to get over. Feel like I stand to make great gains if I can just stick with the 1 test.
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RE: methl 1 test side effects - 9/11/2004 6:54:27 AM
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Weapon X
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Hey man... yea, I got that more pronounced nipple deal and puffyness with the two times that I tried PH's. The firest time around I tried 19-Nor by Ergopharm with tribulis... a stack combo I read about on the internet a long time ago. Found out later that tribulis is best used after a cycle. Anyway... about three weeks in the day after I woke up from increasing the dosage I noticed a slight tingling in my left nipple. I just stopped taking it because it freaked me out. It frustrated the hell out of me because I was looking awesome.
The second time I tried the 1-AD (Ergopharm)/4-AD (AST) stack and I had irritation in my nipples the day after taking them!!!!! I put up with that for about a week untill I discontinued them and picked up some 6-OXO. Again... very pissed because that stack cost a good amount of money and I never got to see any kind of results from them. I actually ended up walking into the local store were I got them and gave them to a kid that I knew that worked there. I also noticed I was really irritable toward family and such during that week... so at that point I just wanted to get rid of them.
I'm not much help, but from what I read awfterwards... any time you introduce a foreign substance that alters your hormonal balance there is always a risk of the estrogen deal. Even if it says that it isn't possible to convert to Estrogen in the chemical make-up of the product you are taking. I read tons of stuff about this stuff before hand... I didn;t just go out and start taking pills. I also took less than half the recomended dosage on the bottles and even didi like a wave cycle... starting really low and gradually working up and then I was planning on tappering back down the dosages. I guess it all comes down to how we all react to things... I can remember even as I was a kid that my nipples had that slight puffy look to them.. it would kind of come and go, and they have always been extremely sensitive.
I guess you first priority might be to try to get your natural testosterone levels up again and everything in balance. Yoiu may want to go out and get some tribulis and some 6-oxo... depending on how bad the nipple deal is bothering you, otherwise... I would say it would probably go away on its own, because six days doesn't really sound long enough to really screw you system up that much... but I am no expert?? Maybe go talk to your doctor and see what he says??? I wish I had a comfortable time talking with mine, it may have saved me some heart ache... I wanted to ask him about all this stuff when I was getting my physical, but he kind of rushed me out the door.
It's weird though... after all that I still am interested in completing a cycle side effect free. What might have changes things for me is if I had some Nolvadex on hand. I know PH's work... it's just that if I got that kind of reaction from the samell amounts i took... I didn't want to puch the issue. But damn... I'm still curious in taking them. I still read about them and I even ordered myself some liquid Nolvadex from a "research" site to have some on hand in case I tried taking them again. Does anyone have any advice as to what type of cycle I should try or should I just give up on PH's all together given what I have already explained above?? Thanks.
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RE: methl 1 test side effects - 9/12/2004 3:13:29 PM
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Weapon X
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I picked up some 1-TU today by Nutrex. I also have in my possesion 6-OXO, a research version of Nolvadex and a product called T-Bomb 2 by MHP. The T-Bomb 2 has everything for post cycle... Tribulis and a bunch of natural anti-E herbal aids. I am going to start off with half the recomended dosage on the bottle of 1-TU and from some advice from another forum going to run the 6-OXO with it... even though that is against the standard approach. I want to take every precation in the Anti-E department. I am also wanting to take a very conservative approach to my cycle... I plan on doing a 2 weeks on and 2 weeks off format. Again, just seeing how my body reacts to it.
I thought there would have been some suggestions to Tomg's post, but I guess nipples sensitivty is a touchy subject.. lol. (Sorry to spill over into your post Tomg with my cycle plans...) I am just looking to add a little extra strength in my workouts and hopefully enjoy the feeling of seeing some numbers climb. Again, any comments would be appreciated... allthough it seems that the majority of people who comment on other boards are those who react really good to PH's and never have to worry about sides anyway, but any input is welcomed.
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RE: methl 1 test side effects - 9/12/2004 4:57:15 PM
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tomg
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Thanks Shadow for your response. I did have some 6 OXO because of recommendations to take it post cycle. I knew it was supposed to boost your natural testosterone level but didnt realize it suppresses estrogen production also. Started taking it a couple of days ago.
Well after being off the methl 1 test for a week I was worried about my workout today. Assuming my natural testosterone level would be low. Plus the fact I stopped taking creatine the same time I stopped the test 1. I had been taking creatine for about a yr now. Well..... the workout went great..no loss of strength or endurance. Of course I did only take the methl 1 test for 9 days. Never really got a chance to see any strength gains with it. The pump I got on my final day taking it was quite noticable though..felt huge.
Im leaning towards staying all natural now but still undecided......a lot of trouble and confusion with the pro-hormones and steriods. Not to mention the side effects. Just a little depressing seeing others making great gains quickly using the stuff when I feel like I put a lot more effort into it.
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RE: methl 1 test side effects - 9/12/2004 8:02:10 PM
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I am on my 1st cycle of m1t 3 weeks, I also noticed some fatty tissue around the nipple and my lower pecs, tomorrow (9/13) I am going to do a 3 week cycle of Masterdol by Legal Gear, then 4 weeks of an anti estrogen then I am going to repeat, I have noticed awesome gains from the m-1t not only size wise, but strength as well and I am only 18 2 ph cycle. It will probably be a while I'll do another ph cycle. Maybe 1 yr or something, I cant really spend the money on that stuff right now cause I am going to college next year so I need all the money I need. Yo, tomg good luck on fixing ur problem cause I hear I got the same issue.
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RE: methl 1 test side effects - 9/13/2004 5:18:46 AM
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Weapon X
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quote:
Im leaning towards staying all natural now but still undecided......a lot of trouble and confusion with the pro-hormones and steriods. Not to mention the side effects. Just a little depressing seeing others making great gains quickly using the stuff when I feel like I put a lot more effort into it.
Yea... I hear you there. That's exactly how I feel. This is my last run with PH's... if I even get a hint of side effects I am going to abort the mission... lol. This morning I took my first cap of the 1-TU with .5ml (10mg) of liquid Nolvadex and I am still undecided on taking the second cap before bed. The recommended dosage is two caps a day. I'm still not really sure... I was also playing around with this idea as well to see how my body is going to react to this... planned 2 weeks on 2 weeks off cycle:
Weeks 1-2
1 cap 1-TU in the morning and 1 cap 1-TU in the evening with .5ml (10mg) Liquid Nolvadex
Weeks 2-4
3 caps T-Bomb 2 in the morning
3 caps T-Bomb 2 in the evening with 600mg (6 caps) 6-OXO and 3 caps Twin Lab ZMA
And I will reserve the higher dosages of the liquid Nolvadex if something goes wrong. Like 1ml (20ml) twice a day or something. Looking at this planned out cycle I may be over reacting, but I would like to have all my bases covered as far as an Anti-E precaution. I have also heard that using an Anti-E while cycling can limit gains, but that is probably due to loss of water weight more than anything... who knows? Either way, I would rather be safe than sorry. Although, I guess the very first time I tried a Andro product it was from Twin Lab... I didn't get any sides what so-ever, but then again I really didn't feel anything.. so maybe I am just prone to the Diol Ergopharm brands or that was a real weak brand. All that I know is that if I can't get away with this real conservative approach for a two week cycle without any sides... I really have no business messing with the stuff. We shall see.
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